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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:dude this is like rightwingers who call every expression of concern or empathy virtue signalling. not healthy to assume everyone else is a sociopath Questionlad is a rightwing chud who projects his own mania onto posts he reads
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:That's fine, its just that immediatley jumping into nuclear alarmism at every escalation without spending much time on talking about whats actually going on right now really gives me a weird vibe is all this is a bit. you're doing a bit right now.
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Aug 9, 2019 23:12
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its just some boats sailing to cuba. no need to freak out over every escalation lmao
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:That's fine, its just that immediatley jumping into nuclear alarmism at every escalation without spending much time on talking about whats actually going on right now really gives me a weird vibe is all it's the insane yearning for death that lives at the heart of cspam incarnated
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:That's fine, its just that immediatley jumping into nuclear alarmism at every escalation without spending much time on talking about whats actually going on right now really gives me a weird vibe is all The entire region is under a communications blackout, how the gently caress are we supposed to talk about what's happening on the ground? Your 'vibe' is your problem, don't try to make it the thread's. ubachung has issued a correction as of 23:19 on Aug 9, 2019 |
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i just wrote some posts stating i found the current focus of discussion weird and explained why, i wasnt trying to mind meld the thread into agreeing with me or whatever
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goon: im worried about millions of people dying or the world ending rightist infiltrator disguised as a chronically wokebrained moron: why make everything about yourself
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Aug 9, 2019 23:24
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"rightist infiltrator"
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Aug 9, 2019 23:26
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self-crit is always good. maybe we should be talking more about UCBMs instead of ICBMs
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Aug 9, 2019 23:27
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that’s the secret behind nuclear weapons, every escalation is a potential nuclear war just like every skirmish can lead to full on war. if it makes you feel better to not believe that you do you but don’t pretend it’s some objective truth.
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:"rightist infiltrator" How about you talk about the people of Kashmir instead of posting worthless drivel?
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Aug 9, 2019 23:29
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Mercrom posted:who would use nukes. thats irrational. you idiots ever heard of MAD What does alfred e neuman have to do with all this
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Aug 9, 2019 23:29
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Chill yall
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Why did the BJP chose to do this now? How far do they intend to go? Political crackdowns? Forced resetlement programs? Camps? Genocide?
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Aug 9, 2019 23:36
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Agean90 posted:don't think there's gonna be a shooting war beyond the kind of skirmishing we saw earlier this year but i do suspect Pakistan and China are gonna be getting really friendly with each other Pakistan and China have been really friendly for decades
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Aug 9, 2019 23:40
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idk why you're talking about MAD when both states hold a credible deterrence doctrine instead
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Aug 9, 2019 23:51
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yeah, pakistan china and the US were all allied after the 70s to counter soviet allied india. china and pakistan have remained close.
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Aug 9, 2019 23:52
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:then why is the discussion itt centered around the odds of india-pakistan war and nuclear armageddon instead of whats happening/about to happen to the people of Kashmir? That poo poo is boring, americans know all about occupations already. How many people itt actually have cracked open a history book about this to actually make congnent analysis. In conclusion, just shitpost.
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:Why did the BJP chose to do this now? How far do they intend to go? Political crackdowns? Forced resetlement programs? Camps? Genocide? AFAIK, the airstrikes (and the social media messaging surrounding them) were a huge part of getting Modi re-elected with more seats, despite him being a failure in every other respect. Cruelty is a winning strategy for the right to begin with, AND this lets BJP look tough again. Edit: Probably gonna generate a bunch of terrorist attacks from desperate displaced people, which again is a win for BJP. Also helps them reinforce their message about the ‘wrong kind’ of refugees, which is going to be critical as time goes on. Random Asshole has issued a correction as of 00:18 on Aug 10, 2019 |
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Prav posted:those are some nasty-rear end borders if a comet hit england pre colonialism the world would be way cooler today AFancyQuestionMark posted:Why did the BJP chose to do this now? How far do they intend to go? Political crackdowns? Forced resetlement programs? Camps? Genocide? they won an election despite tanking the economy they feel untouchable and their voters want provocation and national glory so there will probably be a lot of dying and poo poo
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For real though it's just gonna be a 1:1 recreation of Netanyahu and the West Bank. Right-wing Indian government will shamelessly colonize Kashmir and the West will 100% buy into the inevitable insurgent violence as proof that it's all the Muslims' fault, and it will just drag on for decades as the world's slowest fait acompli. And every 10 years or so there will be a "limited war" along the border to strike at Terrorist Infrastructure that will have no long-term impact on the core problems but will make for great saber-rattling any time the govt gets caught selling telecoms licenses to their 6 year old nephews and some feckless center-libs are poised to win an election.
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Aug 10, 2019 00:52
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:Thats exactly whats going on though, otherwise people wouldnt give so much time to a scenario as unlikely as a nuclear war between neighboring countries with a huge population disparity a scenario which is unlikely yet has extremely bad consequences is worth worrying about whether they affect you or not. AFancyQuestionMark posted:That's fine, its just that immediatley jumping into nuclear alarmism at every escalation without spending much time on talking about whats actually going on right now really gives me a weird vibe is all i've seen the bulletin of the atomic scientists express serious concern over india and pakistan at least a few times over the past few years. i don't think it's alarmism to worry/talk about how this could devolve further, given what little we know about what's happening
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Fuzzy McDoom posted:For real though it's just gonna be a 1:1 recreation of Netanyahu and the West Bank. Right-wing Indian government will shamelessly colonize Kashmir and the West will 100% buy into the inevitable insurgent violence as proof that it's all the Muslims' fault, and it will just drag on for decades as the world's slowest fait acompli. And every 10 years or so there will be a "limited war" along the border to strike at Terrorist Infrastructure that will have no long-term impact on the core problems but will make for great saber-rattling any time the govt gets caught selling telecoms licenses to their 6 year old nephews and some feckless center-libs are poised to win an election. What's Urdu for 'intifada'?
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Fuzzy McDoom posted:For real though it's just gonna be a 1:1 recreation of Netanyahu and the West Bank. Right-wing Indian government will shamelessly colonize Kashmir and the West will 100% buy into the inevitable insurgent violence as proof that it's all the Muslims' fault, and it will just drag on for decades as the world's slowest fait acompli. And every 10 years or so there will be a "limited war" along the border to strike at Terrorist Infrastructure that will have no long-term impact on the core problems but will make for great saber-rattling any time the govt gets caught selling telecoms licenses to their 6 year old nephews and some feckless center-libs are poised to win an election. pakistan isnt as powerless vs indian as the arab countries are against israel since the 70s.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:pakistan isnt as powerless vs indian as the arab countries are against israel since the 70s. smdh this forum doesnt have a crying Nasser smilie
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:pakistan isnt as powerless vs indian as the arab countries are against israel since the 70s. I would argue that recent years have actually changed this dynamic since the US-Pakistan alliance is weakening and India is getting close to the US govt for basically the first time ever. Modi-Netanyahu-Trump can bond over their shared bigotry and love for smarmy denial of ethnic cleansing, and India can finally get in on that sweet action of hiding behind America's skirts every time they piss off all of their neighbors.
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It's racist to assume that nuclear brinksmanship suddenly goes flying out the window when it comes to South Asians.
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Or maybe the idea that India will turn off the water to Pakistan like they threatened to this week might be enough to provoke a nuclear war especially as access to fresh water becomes more precarious. Remember one I'd the arguments against Clinton in 2016 was that enforcing a no fly zone in Syria could spark a nuclear war with Russia? Because when nuclear armed states come into conflict the possibility of the use if nuclear weapons is the elephant in the room, and that the US and the USSR narrowly avoided global nuclear holocaust on several occasions doesn't mean we're always going to be that lucky
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Actually would Russia come down on India's side? I'm not sure.
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KomradeX posted:Or maybe the idea that India will turn off the water to Pakistan like they threatened to this week might be enough to provoke a nuclear war especially as access to fresh water becomes more precarious. Lots of mights and maybes going on here. It's all baseless speculation that this time the stakes could be high enough to start a nuclear war.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Lots of mights and maybes going on here. It's all baseless speculation that this time the stakes could be high enough to start a nuclear war. Avd yeah that's all its going to be until our happens cause we don't know what the start of a nuclear war outta going to look like since it's been 74 years to the day since the last time a nuclear weapon was used in a war. Just saying its not going to happen and acting like the people who acknowledge this looming threat whenever nuclear armed powers come into conflict are being crazy is actually I think the crazy behavior. You might as well say there will be no war in 1914 because everyone is too entwined economically or that no two countries that have McDonald's have gone to war.
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People are generally bad at handling statistics and probabilities. If I made up a low number and used it to say the risk of nuclear confrontation between India and Pakistan is low people would be relieved. If I used the same number to say nuclear war is the most likely cause of death for children in those regions people would be worried. A lot of things have acceptable risks associated with them, like planes or surgeries. There is no acceptable risk of nuclear war.
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i say swears online posted:self-crit is always good. maybe we should be talking more about UCBMs instead of ICBMs when im grinding jp in fftactics i hate when i crit myself and kill my dude
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KomradeX posted:Avd yeah that's all its going to be until our happens cause we don't know what the start of a nuclear war outta going to look like since it's been 74 years to the day since the last time a nuclear weapon was used in a war. Just saying its not going to happen and acting like the people who acknowledge this looming threat whenever nuclear armed powers come into conflict are being crazy is actually I think the crazy behavior. You might as well say there will be no war in 1914 because everyone is too entwined economically or that no two countries that have McDonald's have gone to war. Well if the Hiroshima & Nagasaki bombings are any indication, the stakes would have to be as high as an existential conflict where both sides are committed to total war. If it's not possible for India or Pakistan to wage total war, then the chances of a nuclear escalation are pretty remote.
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actually japan wasnt a threat at all to the US by 1945 and truman dropped the bombs to beat russia to conquering japan
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Nazi Germany wasn't a threat either by 1945 so what's your point
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Aug 10, 2019 07:18
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that nukes will get used when a big enough rear end hole gets in charge
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i say swears online posted:i can't believe we made it 20 years without the plot from The Rock playing out I like the part where the vx is released and the people nearby immediately blister and melt.
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Spergin Morlock posted:I like the part where the vx is released and the people nearby immediately blister and melt. Are you telling me its not true
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