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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

fits my needs posted:

lmao you're the same techlord who paid a taskrabbiter to take down a bunch of boxes down two flights of stairs

you’re alive! I was worried, because I’d gone several months without you posting about boxes

but yes, I was very depressed and had a huge amount of cardboard filling my place, so I paid someone to fill a pickup truck and take it to the recycling center. if it could have fit in my apartment’s recycling receptacle I probably would have done it myself...but maybe not, because yeah, depressed brains aren’t great at motivating that stuff

I’m glad your version of it brings you such joy, though!

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bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
lol subjective is a very sensitive tech millionaire but seeing the ridiculous poo poo he gets defensive beive about is a very funny. so it's impossible to say if he's bad or not

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
yospos is a land of contrasts

everyones just a depressed six and a half figgie plus techlord who has to divorce their wife at some point

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Lazyhound posted:

no loving way

This has been common knowledge for a while but there were so many smart TV abuses discovered in the same timeframe it's hard to find the source. I'm pretty sure it was LG that was caught doing this but it wasn't brought up in the initial discovery that LG TVs report back all media filenames it can see on your network whether you disable data collection in the menu or not and I'd expect it to be there so it must've been discovered after that.

Vizio of course was caught doing the same and agreed to a FTC fine in 2017 and Samsung stated that it uses microphones to record users in 2015 (and just tweeted this year that you should probably run antivirus software on your Samsung TV).

The best you can do with TVs is get one with the streaming device of your choice built in since they don't have the OEM tracking and you were planning on using a Roku/Chromecast/Android TV anyway. Of course if you were planning on using an Apple TV then you're back to hoping the software wifi switch in the TV works which has been shown to be less than truthful in the past.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

remember, if you don't pay for it you're the product, and if you do pay for it you're still the product

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

LastInLine posted:

The best you can do with TVs is get one with the streaming device of your choice built in since they don't have the OEM tracking and you were planning on using a Roku/Chromecast/Android TV anyway. Of course if you were planning on using an Apple TV then you're back to hoping the software wifi switch in the TV works which has been shown to be less than truthful in the past.

even this is bad because then if you want to upgrade your roku/chromecast/whatever you have to upgrade the entire tv

even setting aside the obvious massive privacy concerns, it works way better to have a dumb tv that never requires updates and just displays images from other sources, and then a separate streaming box, because then if you want to update or change either thing, you don't have to buy an entirely new tv with the correct smart os attached

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Loving my piece of poo poo 55 inch 1080p insignia. It's just a panel and 4 HDMI inputs. I don't even think it does motion interpolation. Cost me like 350 a month or so ago. gently caress 4k.i rule.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Why buy a TV when you can just buy a big PC monitor with a HDMI port?

Enfys
Feb 17, 2013

The ocean is calling and I must go

Subjunctive posted:

you guys really want to believe that this camp is unbearable for the kids just because they let parents see photos online, don’t you?

many, many daycares and camps send photos roughly daily. it’s not torturous for the children. this has an image processing gimmick so it’s easier for parents to find the ones of their kids than by scrolling through them all (the common alternative) or the camp doing a bunch of labeling by hand. the campers aren’t digging mines or being flayed.

my kid loves looking back at her older camp/daycare photos, and I’m glad we have them, even though some of them are indeed clearly posed (those minutes lost forever).

"Torturous for the children" - nice strawman :jerkbag:

Many places doing something doesn't mean it's automatically good and can't be questioned.

Being followed by photographers all day every day really takes away from an experience that is meant to be a chance for children to develop and grow as individuals outside the immediate umbrella of parental authority, as well as fostering the idea in impressionable minds that everything you do should be recorded with an external audience in mind who will be judging you on it. Not to mention that the kids are expected to be photographed regularly throughout the day while also constantly showing happiness and joy in every photograph or their parents call the camp wondering what is wrong, as mentioned in the article.

Happiness is mandatory, citizen.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

vyelkin posted:

even this is bad because then if you want to upgrade your roku/chromecast/whatever you have to upgrade the entire tv

Nah, you can just buy your whatever and use that instead. You don't *have* to use the stuff in your TV but it sure is more convenient

vyelkin posted:

even setting aside the obvious massive privacy concerns, it works way better to have a dumb tv that never requires updates and just displays images from other sources, and then a separate streaming box, because then if you want to update or change either thing, you don't have to buy an entirely new tv with the correct smart os attached

This is true but the problem is finding one

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

bring back old gbs posted:

Loving my piece of poo poo 55 inch 1080p insignia. It's just a panel and 4 HDMI inputs. I don't even think it does motion interpolation. Cost me like 350 a month or so ago. gently caress 4k.i rule.

I bet it’s low-latency too, nice. even with all the motion bullshit turned “off”, too many TVs still do who knows what with the signal for dozens of ms and it sucks.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Enfys posted:

Being followed by photographers all day every day really takes away from an experience that is meant to be a chance for children to develop and grow as individuals outside the immediate umbrella of parental authority

I’m used to camps with younger kids which are, for better or worse, closely supervised by adults, so that was less of a factor for me. I don’t know what the camp experience is “meant to be”, but you describe something nice so I’m happy to believe that it’s the intent. tbh, it’s also Just Childcare for a lot of families in addition to any enrichment opportunity.

I agree that happy all the time is bullshit. we have a picture taken moments after my kid fell off something and had started to cry, where two of her friends are leaning over her to help, and it’s a favourite. those parents have sadly already established that “everything must go right in your life or you’ll be mocked or scolded” baseline for their kids, and I’m sure they were phoning camps about ennui in letters home in years gone by, but it is unfortunate if the camp is reinforcing it.

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

https://twitter.com/onekade/status/1160216725549457408?s=21

Are they grooming them to be influencers?

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

who gives a fuuuuuck the future is digitally gaslighting broken brained rich people by making snapchat filters that re-upload their photos slightly modified with bigger/smaller features

jsut completely ruin their psyches with the thought of someone seeing a photo where their chin is extra pointy and it got more likes than their original upload. and you know their entire family is grieving over it lmao

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

it's an amazing indictment of society that techbros with all the wealth and accoutrements of modern technology tend to struggle with basic social interactions, depression, and alienation

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

You can just go to a pawn shop and buy a decade old TV for like a hundred bucks and it won't have wifi. Living below the poverty line is great prep for this brave new world where you don't feel safe buying literally any new piece of technology

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

bring back old gbs posted:

who gives a fuuuuuck the future is digitally gaslighting broken brained rich people by making snapchat filters that re-upload their photos slightly modified with bigger/smaller features

jsut completely ruin their psyches with the thought of someone seeing a photo where their chin is extra pointy and it got more likes than their original upload. and you know their entire family is grieving over it lmao

Do Hollywood style EMPs exist? Could I set up a luddite hippy camp that sets off an emp at random points throughout the day to stop this Panopticon nonsense?

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

you could make an EM cage around the entire compound, but that's basically just building your own prison cell

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Subjunctive posted:

you’re alive! I was worried, because I’d gone several months without you posting about boxes

but yes, I was very depressed and had a huge amount of cardboard filling my place, so I paid someone to fill a pickup truck and take it to the recycling center. if it could have fit in my apartment’s recycling receptacle I probably would have done it myself...but maybe not, because yeah, depressed brains aren’t great at motivating that stuff

I’m glad your version of it brings you such joy, though!

This is the communism forum not YOSPOS. Post about your middle class sadbrains elsewhere

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

lol if you don't think cspam is full of middle class sadbrains

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

purple death ray posted:

You can just go to a pawn shop and buy a decade old TV for like a hundred bucks and it won't have wifi. Living below the poverty line is great prep for this brave new world where you don't feel safe buying literally any new piece of technology

I dread the day when my 12y old 32" Mirai finally breaks.

All I want is a tv that doesn't broadcast all the pirated movies and weird porn I watch out to giant corporations.

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



bloom posted:

I dread the day when my 12y old 32" Mirai finally breaks.

All I want is a tv that doesn't broadcast all the pirated movies and weird porn I watch out to giant corporations.

judging you would get in the way of making money. shame and embarrassment are anachronisms

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

lol if you don't think cspam is full of middle class sadbrains

there are a lot of lower class sadbrains

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



the fact that we are posting on the internet at all means we are extremely privileged and should repent with our blood

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

purple death ray posted:

Living below the poverty line is great prep for this brave new world where you don't feel safe buying literally any new piece of technology
Unironically, sorta.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
i bought a 28" samsung dumb tv for the RV five years ago and it still runs great. i live in a shoebox so i dont need a bigger one. and im old so my eyes are bad so 1080p and 4k poo poo would be wasted on me

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting

Poniard posted:

the fact that we are posting on the internet at all means we are extremely privileged and should repent with our blood

I think internet is probably easier to find at this point than clean water and nutritious food.

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana
shitposts get you through times with no money better than money gets you through times with no shitposts

MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

I think you meant weed, dude. That's a real deep Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers cut there.

And it's remarkable how prescient Max Headroom was on the whole TVs watching you business. 30 years ago.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

FRINGE posted:

I think internet is probably easier to find at this point than clean water and nutritious food.

if i skipped my cellphone plan i could buy, uh, five cucumbers

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dont worry my cellphone plan is an expensive one and is still only 1/10th to 1/15th if an average rent payment lol

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



next thing you'll be telling me that tv's are not the most expensive purchase one makes in a lifetime

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




https://twitter.com/Millerheighife/status/1160411467830550528

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

of course interactive vr porn would cater to rich people's taste first instead of normal people's.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Tubgoat posted:

Unironically, sorta.

not being remotely ironic

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

with the deluxe version of the software, Barry returns to the office with a machine gun and you get to do active shooter training.

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Do Hollywood style EMPs exist? Could I set up a luddite hippy camp that sets off an emp at random points throughout the day to stop this Panopticon nonsense?

Build your hippy camp in the United States National Radio Quite Zone.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Subjunctive posted:

I bet it’s low-latency too, nice. even with all the motion bullshit turned “off”, too many TVs still do who knows what with the signal for dozens of ms and it sucks.

I bought a cheap lovely Insignia TV for $200 canadian years ago and the latency calibration in Crypt of the Necrodancer and Cadence of Hyrule both report 0 ms latency

obviously it isn't 0 ms but it's some negligible amount compared to the poo poo more advanced TVs pull

if this one wears out I am no poo poo going to buy another Insignia TV as long as they're still similarly capable because gently caress "smart" and image processing bullshit, just show me my goddamn pixels in a timely manner

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I listened to piece on a guy's experience working undercover to take down a telephone scam operation, and god drat, scammers are empty inside.

"NPR posted:

FERNANDEZ: There was this time a victim called, and she had already lost about $60,000. And she was crying. She was crying, saying that, I have to go to Salvation Army to get food. You took all my money. Like, I have nothing. And they actually put it on speaker, and they started laughing.

WARNER: Felipe is watching them laugh at her. And he's trying to control the expression on his own face.

FERNANDEZ: You hear the voice. You hear her crying, and you immediately started trying to imagine what she looks like. What is she going to do after she hangs up the phone? Is there anyone near her? You know, her children or whoever - are they going to yell at her because she gave all this money away?

Using laughter to dehumanize your victims is just such a sociopathic concept. I know that often we talk about the horrors that big businesses wreak at a much larger scale, but the people who do the whole thing with a personal touch are really something else*.

*Although the line between scammer and big business starts to get blurry in some cases, like banks knowingly giving loans that couldn't be repaid, milking fees out of customers, and selling off debts to extortion artists, as well as how many of these scams similarly benefit from the same lax legal standards that were cultivated in the name of making big business thrive

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Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




SlothfulCobra posted:

I listened to piece on a guy's experience working undercover to take down a telephone scam operation, and god drat, scammers are empty inside.


Using laughter to dehumanize your victims is just such a sociopathic concept. I know that often we talk about the horrors that big businesses wreak at a much larger scale, but the people who do the whole thing with a personal touch are really something else*.

*Although the line between scammer and big business starts to get blurry in some cases, like banks knowingly giving loans that couldn't be repaid, milking fees out of customers, and selling off debts to extortion artists, as well as how many of these scams similarly benefit from the same lax legal standards that were cultivated in the name of making big business thrive

don’t a lot of these scams hinge upon the victims being greedy in some way. probably makes it a bit easier to justify

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