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A Buttery Pastry posted:His definitions revolve around three axes, aim, resources, talent, so there should be far more categories than just the three presented. Commando is clearly one with low aims and resources, but so much raw talent that it transcends these goals and means. The best bits I liked were classing Blair as kitsch, attempting to shove different Irish accents in there, and the churches one. That original 19th century definition of kitsch comes straight out of Marxist cultural analysis too, folk art is art made by the peasants and workers directly for each other, high art is made for the aristocracy on commission/patronage, and kitsch is art made by the proletariat to be sold back to the proletariat (especially those that would consider themselves middle class) for the profit of the bourgeoisie. The best thing about kitsch, camp, and trash as artforms is that Roger Scruton hates all three with a burning passion. e: In 1981 Canadian actor Taylor Kitsch was born.
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When Scruton wakes up in Tory Hell, all art will be variations on e: Strom Cuzewon posted:Also the list is written as a joke rather than to illustrate the point Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Aug 11, 2019 |
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Interesting name of a prisoner being executed in the new tv show Pennyworth: E: dude even had long white hair lmao TheRat fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Aug 11, 2019 |
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TheRat posted:Interesting name of a prisoner being executed in the new tv show Pennyworth: Is this show any good? I have the feeling that even if it is and it shows Alfred being a total badass you're still left with the fact that he will eventually leave all of that behind to wash Bruce Wayne's underwear.
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The second episode (that one with saville getting executed) really felt like they had a job lot of fake human intestines they had to use up. A really astonishing quantity. Third episode had him rescuing not-Alan Turing and his boyfriend from fascists, which was nice 
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"He needs the right to compare David Lammy to various primates on Twitter, not a new voting system."
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Saith posted:Woke up with a swolen cheek, went to the emergency dentist... And had 4 teeth removed. I'd take this as a sign to quit the smoking at least.
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https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1160570412817948673 Top story on the Grauniad right now. Lucas has really gone down in my estimation recently. It's a sorry state when she's happy to work with the likes of Swinson, Cooper and Justine loving Greening but shuns the idea of a Corbyn-led government. Also far be it from me to criticise, but I'm not sure a government entirely of women just because "women have shown they can bring a different perspective to crises" is particularly feminist. Theresa May was a woman and she got us into this loving mess. Surely it's just playing to the idea that men and women have inherent qualities arising from their gender rather than being defined by their own political and moral beliefs? Either way, it's a dumb idea that's just going to lead to a massive sexist backlash and accusations of reverse discrimination.
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Or a sign that you need to invent better teeth.
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jabby posted:Also far be it from me to criticise, but I'm not sure a government entirely of women just because "women have shown they can bring a different perspective to crises" is particularly feminist. Theresa May was a woman and she got us into this loving mess. Surely it's just playing to the idea that men and women have inherent qualities arising from their gender rather than being defined by their own political and moral beliefs? OwlFancier posted:Or a sign that you need to invent better teeth. I'm a fan of standpoint theory, that women/BAME/LGBT people are better positioned to generate less biased research on their own lives than supposedly 'objective/value neutral' research. I agree though, I'm not sure why that means an all women cabinet is a better idea for managing brexit than an all BAME cabinet for example. An all BAME cabinet might even have a point, because immigration/xenophobia was a driving force in the leave vote, but misogyny wasn't really.
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Theresa may was a woman and the different perspective she had was that black people aren't as good as white people. makes u think. I think nonspecific "difference" is a very lazy political approach in contrast with actual, specified differences that you could put in say, a manifesto. It's very much on the "this is something" and "vote for change" spectrum of terrible centrist politics. As, I think, is characterising difference as a personal characteristic rather than an action. Personal differences mean very little when what you do is exactly the same as always. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Aug 11, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:Theresa may was a woman and the different perspective she had was that black people aren't as good as white people. makes u think. The main time that those differences in perspective are significant is when researching the lived experiences of groups, or when writing legislation that will affect those groups. Brexit will affect women, but I'm not sure it will do so in as direct a way as it will affect migrants or BAME people. Definitely not to the extent that "all woman cabinet because brexit" logically follows.
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Yeah, there should be more women in positions of power because they can better represent the concerns of an underserved section of the populace, not because they’re inherently better at governance. The fact that we just had a female prime minister for three years and she was loving rubbish should put paid to that idea.
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My hot take is that Labour should take them up on this unity government thing so someone other than Corbyn can take the blame for stopping Brexit.
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I would still much prefer to see like, some actual commitments to policy differences rather than just "I'm personally different therefore you should assume that my politics will be a: different and b: therefore good. If someone's experience leads them to be more anti-racist, socialist etc, than their peers, that's good, but they can still campaign on those things rather than the nebulous idea that I can trust that they would be those things because they'e intrinsically different. I really don't put a lot of stock in representational politics because when you combine it with systemic forces and representative democracy what you get is simply a system that can produce as many tokens as it wants and market them to further exactly the same actual politics as the stereotypical old rich white dude. In a country of 64 million you can find more than enough people who look or sound the part of whatever group you want to represent, who are politically aligned with whatever political position you might want. Like it's different on the mass level, having BAME officers at the lower levels and poo poo is good because a mass organization needs to include as many people as possible so that their wishes can be carried up, and obviously the entire desire for mass politics is that it has to represent the working class, but on the national level where it's a few hundred oiks and a dozen ministers for oikery? Pretty meaningless I think. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Aug 11, 2019 |
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Comrade Fakename posted:Yeah, there should be more women in positions of power because they can better represent the concerns of an underserved section of the populace, not because they’re inherently better at governance. Yeah not just that she was rubbish, but that she was particularly terrible for women, what with covering up rape at our concentration camps etc.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/11/who-might-serve-in-caroline-lucass-all-women-anti-no-deal-brexit-cabinet Love this political fan-fiction. Its headline on the front page is “Fantasy Cabinet”, and “fantasy” is right. The absolute desperation from the Guardian to avoid Corbyn as prime minister, even just a caretaker one, is kind of astonishing. “There must be some way to have an opposition government without involving the leader of the opposition, there must be!” Comrade Fakename fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Aug 11, 2019 |
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marktheando posted:My hot take is that Labour should take them up on this unity government thing so someone other than Corbyn can take the blame for stopping Brexit. Honestly, I could see this actually working. Let them cancel A50, then VONC them.
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jabby posted:Top story on the Grauniad right now. she's a lib otherwise she'd want to work with the 1 person who actually has good plans for the environment
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marktheando posted:My hot take is that Labour should take them up on this unity government thing so someone other than Corbyn can take the blame for stopping Brexit. don’t worry they will still some how blame him
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marktheando posted:My hot take is that Labour should take them up on this unity government thing so someone other than Corbyn can take the blame for stopping Brexit. you're assuming that there's enough cross-party support to make it into a reality rather than it just being some Guardian fever-dream there's a reason it's always the Greens (MPs: 1) and CUK (MPs: 5) and LDs (MPs: 13) proposing it and claiming that there will be hordes of Tories and Labour MPs champing at the bit to join, honest there are, they're just waiting for someone to get it started
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Julio Cruz posted:you're assuming that there's enough cross-party support to make it into a reality rather than it just being some Guardian fever-dream The electoral politics version of : https://twitter.com/nathanfielder/status/620060895209779200?s=19
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Comrade Fakename posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/11/who-might-serve-in-caroline-lucass-all-women-anti-no-deal-brexit-cabinet The desperation is borderline hysterical now. The idea that literally the only representative of a fringe political party should become PM over and above the leader of the opposition is straight out of bizarro-world, there's absolutely no justification for it beyond blocking Corbyn being their totally over-riding concern.
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marktheando posted:My hot take is that Labour should take them up on this unity government thing so someone other than Corbyn can take the blame for stopping Brexit. This is just going to lead to Labour actually splitting like under Ramsay MacDonald. The first step for the scabs will be hardest but once that's down we'd be hosed
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Home Secretary - Yvette Cooper is the worst one. Not only because she'd be a bad home secretary, but because they're overlooking the already female shadow Home Secretary who won an award for speaking out against detention without charge and would be better.
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Jose posted:liberals absolutely hate the idea of democracy No, they love democracy. They just wish it didn't have to be so democratic.
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quote:If parliament passed a motion of no confidence in Boris Johnson’s government, the plan would be for them to form a temporary cabinet, existing only to propose a Brexit referendum, likely to be remain versus no deal. What the gently caress is wrong with these people?
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Guavanaut posted:Home Secretary - Yvette Cooper is the worst one. That really does annoy me actually. Diane Abbot is about the only person I think I actually would want anywhere near the home sec's office because she actually does have pretty good politics in that department and the woke libs can't do anything other than lie about telling her to gently caress off.
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my legs are pretty stiff from doing squats yesterday someone motivate me to go do some cardio at the gym instead of getting pissed
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Rarity posted:No, they love democracy. They just wish it didn't have to be so democratic. They love democracy but only middle class and up get to vote
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Jose posted:my legs are pretty stiff from doing squats yesterday someone motivate me to go do some cardio at the gym instead of getting pissed Your legs will feel way better if you do a little light leg stuff and then gently caress around with some upper body. Maybe do like 20mins easy on the rowing machine, and a bit of bench, nothing too crazy
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Guavanaut posted:Home Secretary - Yvette Cooper is the worst one. It's pretty loving offensive to Diane Abbott that she's the current shadow home secretary but apparently doesn't rate a place in this all-female (and as far as I can tell, all white) fantasy cabinet. Especially considering the fantasy replacement, Cooper, hasn't even come out in favour of a second referendum. So she's being included purely for being a centrist popular with utter melts.
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