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is there any decent tutorial to learn about classes? I've just been doing whatever and taking certifications as characters qualify, but it looks like I'm leaving a lot on the table
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Oh, it's also worth noting that the way the game tracks RNG is very very weird. I got a 5% crit with Annette on a monster I didn't want to kill yet because of the shield break bonus, so I reloaded and switched to another character that also had a 5% crit and they got it tooindigi posted:is there any decent tutorial to learn about classes? I've just been doing whatever and taking certifications as characters qualify, but it looks like I'm leaving a lot on the table https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Skills_in_Fire_Emblem:_Three_Houses Skills learned is the most important class factor once you know what weapon you want. There's functional differences like riding horses or flying units, but otherwise the difference between classes is stat growth (not important), bonuses to skill EXP gained (if you need the skill to change to the class, you get bonus EXP), skills, and skills learned RazzleDazzleHour fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Aug 11, 2019 |
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Ya if you have a 50% chance to fail certification and reload after failing you will never pass. I think it does the same thing XCOM does
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Ya if you have a 50% chance to fail certification and reload after failing you will never pass. I think it does the same thing XCOM does Fucks you over in the bottom of the 9th when you need your sniper to clutch and he fires into the ground instead?
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^^^ At least Fire Emblem never has a moment of, "Oh the new recruit panicked and dropped a grenade in the airplane. Good game. " The Duchess Smackarse posted:Dedue is the only worthy character and everyone else belongs in the grave  Dedue, I will be so sad when I cant have him hanging out with me on a different house playthrough. waah fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Aug 11, 2019 |
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Does everything in a character's inventorys weight effect attack speed or only stuff you have equipped?.
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Lorenz has been handily outmatched as a cavalry unit by Leonie. Which is canon in all versions of this game's story.
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Bruc posted:Does everything in a character's inventorys weight effect attack speed or only stuff you have equipped?. Only what's currently equipped.
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Bruc posted:Does everything in a character's inventorys weight effect attack speed or only stuff you have equipped?. Should just be equipped stuff since it changes based on what you attack with.
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Has gardening been solved yet? Hubert needs Albinean Berries and I have no idea what grows them
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rannum posted:Has gardening been solved yet? Hubert needs Albinean Berries and I have no idea what grows them Mixed fruit seeds.
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ROFL Octopus posted:I don’t know if there’s much of a reason to go Holy Knight over Bishop tbh. Any healer worth their salt has Physic and Holy Knight loses out on White Magic Uses x2. My ferdinand turned from a paladin into a holy knight, who in conjuction with his passive and high speed statline could nosferatu tank like literally the entire map at once. It was pretty insane.
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Lorenz.... How the heck do you use Lorenz? He has poo poo magic growth, and he has poo poo pure melee growth too. I'm trying to use him as a mage but he kind of is really bad at it. Lord Koth posted:I do agree that in general Effective weapons of the Cavalry/Armor varieties are extremely rare and should probably be a bit more common. Especially as combat arts that are effective are actually super common.
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Lorenz is a physical attacker, why is he a mage?
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Radio Free Kobold posted:edelgard is for being killed, like any other Fire Emblem Antagonist would be 
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Airspace posted:being killed, like any other Fire Emblem Antagonist would be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRmc9IPGmiA
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Tae posted:Lorenz is a physical attacker, why is he a mage? His Str and Mag growths are identical. His Res growth is actually better than his Def.
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My Lorenz finished as a Dark Knight with 32 str and 28 magic at level 41. He was okay. He could double and kill armored units with magic while tanking mages on the enemy phase (29 res) by tossing short spears. He was extremely slow, 22 speed, and frail physically, 17 defense. I just had to keep him away from 80% of the map. If not for dancing, Flayn was easily the worst character in all three of my runs. All of her stock was in resistance and charm while finishing off with 15 speed and over 15 less magic than my other healers. At least half of my divine pulse charges were because I left her in range of a flyer than oneshots her.
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rannum posted:of edelgard's route it's the one with judith & Leonie, he's next to Judith rather than showing up as reinforcements. I assume Raphael also shows up on that map if you didnt have him already. Ah. For some reason whenever I see his name I think of the guy with the rose instead of the archer.
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Flayn has the stuff to be a pegasus knight when you get her, but is just so weak and loving terrible it's pointless.
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Tae posted:Lorenz is a physical attacker, why is he a mage? Lord Ephraim posted:My Lorenz finished as a Dark Knight with 32 str and 28 magic at level 41. He was okay. He could double and kill armored units with magic while tanking mages on the enemy phase (29 res) by tossing short spears. He was extremely slow, 22 speed, and frail physically, 17 defense. I just had to keep him away from 80% of the map. ...Her main use is rescue-ing stronger attackers across desert terrain and the like. She doesn't even get psychic! Dorothea's a better healer than she is, and she's supposed to be the Dancer of this run.
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She gets Fortress or whatever the massive aoe heal is. Which is cool, except Linhardt exists.
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I just finished my I'm not sure what the general consensus is on this game, either online or just on SA, but overall I was not especially impressed. The game itself was fine. It was Fire Emblem through and through. The story and characters on the other hand, I thought they were really weak. The S-ranked Marriage thing was pretty lazily shoe-horned in as well. It felt pretty hollow. I'll probably be raked over the coals for this, but I enjoyed Awakening way more. I had more fun and was more attached to the characters. The one positive I'll give is that I applaud them for not dividing the game up into three parts or some poo poo.
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Psycho Knight posted:The story and characters on the other hand, I thought they were really weak. those are like the strongest points of the game
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Your Computer posted:those are like the strongest points of the game The gently caress?! THAT is being considered a strong story?
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This game actually has really strong character writing and heck probably some of the best worldbuilding and lore and characterization in a decade
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TBH, I'd agree that the storytelling is kind of weak, at least in the two routes I've played. The characters and background history and stuff are all interesting, but the actually execution of the story is pretty bad. Like, pacing and stuff. Uh, the writing is mostly good, but the plotting is bad.
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Psycho Knight posted:The one positive I'll give is that I applaud them for not dividing the game up into three parts or some poo poo. also I have some bad news for you
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How did it take you 63 hours, did you forget to run or something
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So, on the topic of Budding Talents, Lysithea having sword feels kind of like a trap too? Mortal Savant has 6 movement compared to Warlock's 4 (but doesn't have double black magic), and has 6 movement to Gremory's 5 and has Black tomefair (but doesn't have double black or white magic). I can see really really wanting that movement, but it feels like a bad trade off, especially as LEvin Sword+ are not comparable to OP staff. I guess getting her sword to B+ just to get that base 12/14 defence is pretty good though (also some strength for weight reduction). Tae posted:How did it take you 63 hours, did you forget to run or something Shortest route took me like 90 hours so....
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I liked Awakening for what it was but to say that it had better characters is absolute nonsense. Outside of the main trio of Chrom, Robin, and Lucina, almost every character and support can essentially be boiled down to "let's talk about my wacky and endearing character trait!" And again, that's fine, because that's what they were going for. But it's not good. 3H has its weaknesses in the story and how it's told, but the vast majority of characters are fully realized, and have interesting interactions and prior connections that go beyond The One Thing I'm Known For. There are exceptions (Raphael) but they are few and far between.
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Your Computer posted:also I have some bad news for you Did they already talk about what that DLC is? Is that what you're hinting at? Jerry Manderbilt posted:This game actually has really strong character writing and heck probably some of the best worldbuilding and lore and characterization in a decade Well, I guess Fire Emblem joins the short list of game series where I am firmly in the minority on which entries are good. I saw none of what you describe in this game. Certainly not in the Black Eagles/Church routes. TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I liked Awakening for what it was but to say that it had better characters is absolute nonsense. Outside of the main trio of Chrom, Robin, and Lucina, almost every character and support can essentially be boiled down to "let's talk about my wacky and endearing character trait!" And again, that's fine, because that's what they were going for. But it's not good. You have a vastly different view of "good" than I do. Listening to every character talk about nobles and crests is not interesting. Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Aug 12, 2019 |
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Arkeus posted:So, on the topic of Budding Talents, Lysithea having sword feels kind of like a trap too? Mortal Savant has 6 movement compared to Warlock's 4 (but doesn't have double black magic), and has 6 movement to Gremory's 5 and has Black tomefair (but doesn't have double black or white magic). I can see really really wanting that movement, but it feels like a bad trade off, especially as LEvin Sword+ are not comparable to OP staff. Black Tomefaire doesn't apply to Lysithea anyway since she uses Dark Magic, not Black Magic. Anyway, personally I made her a Mortal Savant instead of a Gremory just because I could, even though she doesn't really benefit from the class skills at all, but frankly I never ran out of magic anyway?
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Tae posted:Lorenz is a physical attacker, why is he a mage? Lorenz is destined to become a Dark Knight, and depending on which growths he hits you can get him there through Mage and Warlock or through Cavalier and Paladin. His main thing is that he's one of few characters who has good Defense and good Resistance, and he's got high HP for a magic user as well.
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The church route is probably the most boring route, I finished it after my first run where I sided with Edelgard and I don’t remember anything that happened in it.
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If anything I only trained Lysithea to C swords for vantage and it was dubious how often I used it anyway Especially since (I think) Aegis and Pavise from Thrysus regularly hosed with my master plans to get her into vantage range
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I love the faux medieval art for these cutscenes
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I liked Awakening for what it was but to say that it had better characters is absolute nonsense. Outside of the main trio of Chrom, Robin, and Lucina, almost every character and support can essentially be boiled down to "let's talk about my wacky and endearing character trait!" And again, that's fine, because that's what they were going for. But it's not good.  Tae posted:How did it take you 63 hours, did you forget to run or something
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Psycho Knight posted:Well, I guess Fire Emblem joins the short list of game series where I am firmly in the minority on which entries are good. I saw none of what you describe in this game. Certainly not in the Black Eagles/Church routes. Zane fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Aug 12, 2019 |
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Arkeus posted:So, on the topic of Budding Talents, Lysithea having sword feels kind of like a trap too? Mortal Savant has 6 movement compared to Warlock's 4 (but doesn't have double black magic), and has 6 movement to Gremory's 5 and has Black tomefair (but doesn't have double black or white magic). I can see really really wanting that movement, but it feels like a bad trade off, especially as LEvin Sword+ are not comparable to OP staff. Warlock and Mortal Savant's class skills do nothing for Lysithea, but unlocking Mortal Savant gives her a free strength boost and can sometimes patch up her defenses too. It's basically a stat booster that you get for raising your sword rank.
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