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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries?
This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Klansman 8 0.91%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer 578 65.76%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker 185 21.05%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord 4 0.46%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe 0 0%
Julian Castro, the Twin 3 0.34%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer 3 0.34%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath 9 1.02%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino 2 0.23%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist 4 0.46%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen 19 2.16%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool 19 2.16%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater 8 0.91%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast 1 0.11%
Just like in real life, nobody voted for Hickenlooper 2 0.23%
Jeffrey Epstein, the MCC Most Hated 9 1.02%
KKKillary KKKlinton 16 1.82%
Some other idiot not in this list 9 1.02%
Total: 879 votes
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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Majorian posted:

The real answer is actually Gabbard, as part of her new phase of the GWOT.

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1096155570409750530

it's from february and she does not appear to have said anything about the current catastrofuck

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Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

Majorian posted:

The real answer is actually Gabbard, as part of her new phase of the GWOT.

Biden won't get distracted launching a nuclear strike on Pakistan so India can seize the entirety of Kashmir.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

GreyjoyBastard posted:

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1096155570409750530

it's from february and she does not appear to have said anything about the current catastrofuck

:lol: Good lord, I had missed that one when she tweeted it. Glad it's not recent. Yeah, Tulsi bad.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Only one candidate is willing to take a stand against the dark psychic forces that assault us daily.

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

PT6A posted:

What would you have me consume instead? I read a lot of the USPol stuff linked in D&D, I have subscriptions to and read WaPo, the NYT, the New Yorker, the Atlantic, the Economist. I try to keep myself reasonably well informed about politics in Canada, naturally, the US, the UK and anywhere else of particular interest, but maybe I'm missing something. By all means, please give me your recommendations.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/ has a daily link roundup each morning and, most of the time, an afternoon update. since those posts aggregate links, you'll get a smattering of stuff from mainstream, center/center-left publications like the ones you've mentioned, as well as links to more leftist sources.

because there's little money to be made in publishing a leftist daily--either in advertising or subscriptions--the closest you'll get to one will be an amalgam of links from a variety of sources ranging from the business press, to mainstream center-left publications, to full on leftist sources. the naked capitalism daily link posts are the closest thing you'll get to that amalgam without, say, curating an RSS feed

edit: didn't realize someone else linked nakedcapitalism as well, but i'm gonna leave this up as a further endorsement of the site


double edit:

i don't read enough D&D to know whether PT6A is asking this stuff in good faith, but i'm responding as if that's the case because there might be lurkers with these same questions/concerns as well.

anyways. when someone's asks a question, in earnest, like "why aren't they covering when candidate x says y" and mentions some stuff about media bias but doesn't seem to have fully worked out theory of why and how media bias operates, i always recommend looking into books of media criticism. especially ones that focus on background, structural factors that give arise to these individual instances of bias.

manufacturing consent by herman and chomsky is the classic of this genre--and for good reason.

but i bet you could pick up most books that google/amazon/goodreads/whatever pull up when you look into leftist media criticism, corporate consoldiation of media, etc. and still not have to ask the kinds of questions PT6A is asking (because the book will have answered them).

Finicums Wake fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Aug 12, 2019

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Condiv posted:

PT6A, when it comes to bernie sanders you have to remember that the "left-most" tv outlet, msnbc, has had panels talking about how he makes women's skin crawl. no substantive analysis, no facts, just people on a cable news program saying "i think bernie is creepy and misogynist".

also they gave Donny Deutsch a show, the guy who said you should vote republican rather than for Bernie

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

PT6A posted:

There's, comparatively, gently caress all for coverage, either positive or negative, and frankly that's just weird. No attacks, no supports, just a complete blank spot.

un-existing someone by thoroughly not acknowledging them is as effective a tactic as reporting negatively on them

as said succinctly

SKULL.GIF posted:

There might be a reason for this :)

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


PT6A posted:

What would you have me consume instead?

chapo.

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

drat, and here i thought idiocracy was a work of fiction!

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



PT6A posted:

What would you have me consume instead? I read a lot of the USPol stuff linked in D&D, I have subscriptions to and read WaPo, the NYT, the New Yorker, the Atlantic, the Economist. I try to keep myself reasonably well informed about politics in Canada, naturally, the US, the UK and anywhere else of particular interest, but maybe I'm missing something. By all means, please give me your recommendations.

Citations Needed is an essential podcast. It doesn't recap the news but it does show you how full of poo poo mainstream media is and it will help you filter through that bullshit.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Chilichimp posted:

Wow, that's hilariously untrue.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/aoc-empty-parking-lot/

Do you even bother fact checking the infowars episodes you're watching, or?

I know its a few pages back, but for anyone who didn't actually read the Snopes page:

snopes posted:

But the claim that got the most attention, pushed by viral conspiracy and junk news websites, made unfounded accusations that the photographs of Ocasio-Cortez were fake and that she was actually crying over an empty parking lot. Russian state media outlet RT and ZeroHedge were among junk news sites taking a cue from Alex Jones’ InfoWars network in that regard. The latter posted an unfounded story on June 24, 2019, that posited the “empty parking lot” conspiracy theory.

Infowars needs no introduction. ZeroHedge is a conspiracy libertarian site (Hillary is going to crash gold market types). RT is RT, and if you're a leftist, they aren't your friend.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



https://twitter.com/Complex/status/1159967474038845440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 55 minutes!
gently caress Joe Biden.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Mind_Taker posted:

Citations Needed is an essential podcast. It doesn't recap the news but it does show you how full of poo poo mainstream media is and it will help you filter through that bullshit.

Seconding [Citations Needed]. Not all of their takes are 100%, but they do reveal a lot of terrible patterns in media coverage:
- Passive voice when PoC get murdered by cops
- US always accidentally stumbling into wars
- Perseverance porn
- The non-stop bullshit about Iran

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

mcmagic posted:

gently caress Joe Biden.

:hai:

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Wasn't she stanning for some shitlib?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCySD7GlKA

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Obama not being around has really shown how lovely Biden is.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Addamere posted:

Wasn't she stanning for some shitlib?

Not that I am aware of 🤷🏾‍♀️

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
I feel real bad for Booker right now. Poor guy has to come up with a way to do the Iowa Fair without publicly eating anything and still try and get votes.

Unless Iowa suddenly found a way to deep fry in a vegan friendly manner.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Koalas March posted:

Not that I am aware of 🤷🏾‍♀️

I think I'm misremembering her endorsement of Gillum, who was good, then.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Gyges posted:

I feel real bad for Booker right now. Poor guy has to come up with a way to do the Iowa Fair without publicly eating anything and still try and get votes.

Unless Iowa suddenly found a way to deep fry in a vegan friendly manner.

Drinking a bottle of vegetable oil would be a good way of splitting the difference

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Mind_Taker posted:

Citations Needed is an essential podcast. It doesn't recap the news but it does show you how full of poo poo mainstream media is and it will help you filter through that bullshit.

edit:

thirding

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Gyges posted:

I feel real bad for Booker right now. Poor guy has to come up with a way to do the Iowa Fair without publicly eating anything and still try and get votes.

Unless Iowa suddenly found a way to deep fry in a vegan friendly manner.
He’s polling in the margin of error so i doubt it will make a difference if he eats the deep fried stick of butter or not

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

FlamingLiberal posted:

He’s polling in the margin of error so i doubt it will make a difference if he eats the deep fried stick of butter or not

I love this poo poo.

"It's mathematically possible that no one likes you."

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

You aren't going to learn poo poo from podcasts. Try going out, get involved in the community. Talk to people. Thats where the real news is

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Who broke Calibanibal so badly that he started posting sincerely?

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS
Are there any podcasts like chapo, but good? yeah, fukken owned

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 55 minutes!
I disagree. I've learned stuff from podcasts and also from going out and talking to people.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
There's a lot of liberals who think Chapo is Cum Town. And the ones who investigate Cum Town presumably become unable to communicate in any way except through song lyrics changed to be about being gay with your dad.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Ghost Leviathan posted:

There's a lot of liberals who think Chapo is Cum Town. And the ones who investigate Cum Town presumably become unable to communicate in any way except through song lyrics changed to be about being gay with your dad.

Can confirm, listened to cum town on night shift, eight hours a night three times a week, and now I do this. Cum town is the podcast people think Chapo is.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Chilichimp posted:

I love this poo poo.

"It's mathematically possible that no one likes you."

He's at least got his weirdly named family and Rosario Dawson. So, he's still doing better than everyone except the actual chance candidates, Beto, and Yang.

Calibanibal posted:

You aren't going to learn poo poo from podcasts. Try going out, get involved in the community. Talk to people. Thats where the real news is

No media has ever been more informative than the vast catalog of Jaywalking segments.

Gyges fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Aug 12, 2019

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

PT6A posted:

My question is, I suppose, where are the reports of Bernie opening up a can of Brooklyn whoopass on concentration camps and gun fetishists and all the other great ills of current American society?

The even bigger issue than this, that will end up being a problem even if you became aware and acknowledged that he talks about this stuff, is that you seem to have basically let the mask slip as far as thinking that material concerns are some sort of trivial or eye-roll-worthy thing. It basically confirmed what's always been obvious about the "people who think of themselves as progressives but don't like Sanders" subset of Democrats; their perspective is only possible if they just don't really care much about peoples' material needs (or are profoundly low-info, though I don't think this excuse applies to most people who post in D&D). Unsurprisingly, this viewpoint is almost always found in people who are fairly well-off themselves, and it's caused by either self-interest or mainstream media avoiding promoting views that threaten the interests of the wealthy (or both). Stuff like gun violence is super high priority for them because it's something they can imagine in the context of their own lives, but poverty and related issues (like healthcare or housing) are just treated as "yeah those things matter but...." issues because they're not something the person has a context for understanding.

A good analogy is the way that many on the left (and nearly all on the center-left) de-prioritize foreign policy/US imperialism as an issue because it's distant to them, despite it affecting at least as many people as domestic policy. While it's only natural to be more emotionally affected by issues close to you personally, that's not an excuse for not taking an honest look at the actual impacts of the issues in question and supporting the policies and candidates who would best address them.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
The Fire Rises

https://twitter.com/jjz1600/status/1160670865119465472?s=19

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:
A new poll from Oklahoma has Bernie in fifth.

https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1160920459732500481

I'd be interested to hear again from Bernie's pollster/camp if they still think that Bernie could make a serious play here:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/19/bernie-sanders-campaign-2020-1173608

quote:

They’re not just talking about West Virginia. Some in the Sanders camp envision possibly making a play for Iowa, Ohio, and Indiana, as well as states such as Kansas, North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Montana — six states that, together, have voted for the Democratic nominee just twice in the past half-century.

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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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I’m still unconvinced that Booker isn’t a sentient android from the 25th century that got displaced attempting time travel

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
LinYutang and CNN, amplifying Bernies bad polls in harmony.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



LinYutang posted:

A new poll from Oklahoma has Bernie in fifth.

https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1160920459732500481

I'd be interested to hear again from Bernie's pollster/camp if they still think that Bernie could make a serious play here:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/19/bernie-sanders-campaign-2020-1173608

6% of those polled between ages 18 and 34, 39% of those polled above age 65 :waycool:

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

LinYutang posted:

A new poll from Oklahoma has Bernie in fifth.

https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1160920459732500481

I'd be interested to hear again from Bernie's pollster/camp if they still think that Bernie could make a serious play here:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/19/bernie-sanders-campaign-2020-1173608

This is a >2 week old poll of a Super Tuesday state, months before Iowa. It's quite possibly the least useful poll you could have possibly posted.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

LinYutang posted:

A new poll from Oklahoma has Bernie in fifth.

https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1160920459732500481

I'd be interested to hear again from Bernie's pollster/camp if they still think that Bernie could make a serious play here:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/19/bernie-sanders-campaign-2020-1173608

I wouldn’t use a primary poll to judge a general election strategy.

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Reverend Dr
Feb 9, 2005

Thanks Reverend

FlamingLiberal posted:

I’m still unconvinced that Booker isn’t a sentient android from the 25th century that got displaced attempting time travel

I doubt it.

That's a way better campaign than his actual one.

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