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forkboy84 posted:You're missing the point. The point is very few people are smart enough to have much worth saying outside their field. Being a computer toucher doesn't give you an insight into society and politics or economics or anything else but touching computers. Quite the opposite, if anything.
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AceOfFlames posted:Then what are the only "worthy" fields then? Are we just supposed to turn our backs in technology and go back to tribalism and clean each other with leaves? Or just stop here and create an entirely static society not learning anything about the world around us and smoking weed until the climate kills us all or the Sun swallows they are Earth? I'd rather complete extinction that an eternal dark age. The "dark age" was just when the Western Europeans stopped writing down stuff so much. It wasn't actually a long night full of horrors yknow
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lol at being such an egomaniac your own parents call you one
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Tarnop posted:I love a jet-black catte Then you'll enjoy this picture of Jimmy "helping me work" 
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OwlFancier posted:mate I would kill for my own shipping crate to live in. Move to America mate.
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I can't think of many things more egomaniacal than "I would rather everyone died than my star trek fanfiction didn't come true"
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Jose posted:lol at being such an egomaniac your own parents call you one Actual exchange after that. "How the hell is not trashing people signs of egomania? What else do you have?" "Well, I have never seen you give anything to the poor." "I give online all the time! When was the last time YOU gave something to the poor?" "Well, I haven't done it in years..." Trust me you do NOT want to sign with them. They say some horrendously racist and fash things in front me on the reg.
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Jose posted:lol at being such an egomaniac your own parents call you one Maybe he just assumed they were talking about him?
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Bobstar posted:Then you'll enjoy this picture of Jimmy "helping me work" My former secretary. I fired her for sleeping on the job. Sadly, she now sleeps permanently beneath a mango tree in far off distant lands along with her brother. 
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OwlFancier posted:I can't think of many things more egomaniacal than "I would rather everyone died than my star trek fanfiction didn't come true" Something something giant meteorite wiping out life.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:My former secretary. I fired her for sleeping on the job. A good catte, RIP.
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OwlFancier posted:"I would rather everyone on the planet die than think that we won't have a robot I can put my dick in soon."
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Good cats all. Here's a huge black cat that lives near me. 
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AceOfFlames posted:Then what are the only "worthy" fields then? Are we just supposed to turn our backs in technology and go back to tribalism and clean each other with leaves? Also because techbros smugly crow about making the world better, but estimates have bitcoin worldwide using up more power than some countries, not to mention tech companies like Google and Amazon now hoarding billionaire levels of resources. StarkingBarfish posted:This skewers them pretty well. Further up it mentions how they're radicalised in much the same way as the gammons: pining for a time that never really existed, and if it did exist was solely to their benefit at the expense of the growing number of impoverished. I think it's very easy for gammons to conflate joining the EU with the death of British industry, and by extension the idea that leaving the EU will take us back to the glory days of pre 1973. But the British motor industry is dead, mining is dead, manufacturing is dead. And I think the FBPEs are doing exactly the same thing with the Brexit referendum, only their 'glory days' are when the piss and poo poo never rose high enough to affect their middle class lives.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Technology isn't the problem, it's people being douches and acting superior because they have tech careers. The prime example of this is Elon Musk starting off attempting to rescue trapped kids, and ending up in court for calling the guy who could actually save them a pedo, because he stole his thunder. quote:The real emancipatory potential of technology remains unrealized. Fed by the market, its rapid growth is offset by bloat, and elegant innovation is surrendered to the buyer, whose stagnant world it decorates. Tech good, current distribution bad.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Technology isn't the problem, it's people being douches and acting superior because they have tech careers. The prime example of this is Elon Musk starting off attempting to rescue trapped kids, and ending up in court for calling the guy who could actually save them a pedo, because he stole his thunder. All those attitudes are terrible. Unfortunately I just don't understand why hiding by my social circle online and IRO I am apparently the only person on the planet who thinks "technology as a whole is good, engineering is a good and necessary profession but Bitcoin is stupid, Elon Musk is an idiot and technology should serve people and we should not abuse workers for progress." ^ Finally, I found someone! 
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Guavanaut posted:Good cats all. Does he often wear shoes?
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Only ones that match his coat.
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AceOfFlames posted:All those attitudes are terrible. Unfortunately I just don't understand why hiding by my social circle online and IRO I am apparently the only person on the planet who thinks "technology as a whole is good, engineering is a good and necessary profession but Bitcoin is stupid, Elon Musk is an idiot and technology should serve people and we should not abuse workers for progress." Everyone thinks technology should serve people, the problem is it almost never does. There's a reason wages stopped growing with productivity from the 80s onwards. TL;DR Ned Ludd wasn't wrong
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Also because techbros smugly crow about making the world better, but estimates have bitcoin worldwide using up more power than some countries, not to mention tech companies like Google and Amazon now hoarding billionaire levels of resources. Silicon Valley was a show with some great moments quote:I don't want to live in a world where someone else is making the world a better place better than we're making the world a better place
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I'm enjoying "ALL BREXIT VOTERS MUST DIE" guy being mad at people making generalisations.
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forkboy84 posted:Everyone thinks technology should serve people, the problem is it almost never does. There's a reason wages stopped growing with productivity from the 80s onwards. Luddism has been recast as "primitive Midlands yokels smashed the weaving frames because they were jealous/stupid/scared" because if you talk about the last bit then that's communism.
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Guavanaut posted:Ned Ludd wasn't wrong, but the point wasn't smashing the frames, it was smashing the privately owned frames until suitable worker-controlled work could be provided to the villages that the villagers wouldn't starve. Yes, that's my point. Technology is far too often used to drive down wages and cut employees rights back and even cut the workforce. The problem isn't technology, it's the economic system. And thus full luxury gay space communism. We should be working less and paid more per hour because of advances in automation but instead capital has increased its cut and workers are left being poorly paid in jobs that have no real purpose. Working in call centres loving sucks OP.
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OwlFancier posted:I can't think of many things more egomaniacal than "I would rather everyone died than my star trek fanfiction didn't come true" This amused me for the near exact parallel: David Hume musing on the limitations of human reason in 1739 posted:'Tis not contrary to reason to prefer the destruction of the whole world to the scratching of my finger Tech-bros should read more humanities and less XKCD is my hot take
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What's up goons. Call to action for the 24th of August: Danny Tommo and his merry band of racist loving idiots are back to protest Steve Waxy Lemons imprisonment. They were here 3rd of August and although we managed to out up a decent display we need numbers. If any of you can be in London that day your presence would be appreciated. Like London Anti Fascist Assembly on FB for updates (NOT Stand Up To Racism, they're running a separate trot event agreed with the police).
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Jakabite posted:(NOT Stand Up To Racism, they're running a separate trot event agreed with the police). Is there a more perfectly Trot statement? SUTR is one of 18000 SWP fronts right?
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Jose posted:Blair only appears once but mandelson is in 10 time I really want this to go somewhere but I suspect it's gonna be another panama papers / operation yewtree situation, where faced with incontrovertible evidence of massive amounts of financial crimes / noncery the powers that be will shrug (because they love to engage in both).
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Technology isn't the problem, it's people being douches and acting superior because they have tech careers. The prime example of this is Elon Musk starting off attempting to rescue trapped kids, and ending up in court for calling the guy who could actually save them a pedo, because he stole his thunder. I think that this is one of the issues where Corbynism is getting the blame for the increase in racism and so on. Corbyn's leadership also coincides pretty much with Brexit, and I dare say there are some fundamental reasons why both occurred around the same time (general disillusionment with the status quo). My 2p is obviously on Brexit being the major cause of the rise in overt racism. (Ed*) Others, patently, see it differently. The constant crying in the wilderness of the statistician that 'correlation does not equal causation' goes unheard. *Ed: badly phrased. Falling foul of my own argument! I should say the factors giving rise to brexit under lie the rise in racism rather than brexit itself being a cause. I think brexit has legitimised the overtness. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Aug 13, 2019 |
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Private Speech posted:Something something giant meteorite wiping out life. 
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Facehammer posted:Quite the opposite, if anything. And computer touchers and engineers are infamous for attempting to apply their skills in their field to stuff completely outside it, which has terrible consequences for us all. Someone attempting to apply sociological theories to hard science (*cough* Lacan *cough* Sokal affair *cough*) is just an irritating distraction, but Facebook claiming (whether or not they actually believe it) that more data and observation and algorithms can solve homelessness and global warming is contributing to the dystopian libertarian nightmare that we live in. AceOfFlames posted:I thought the whole point of progressivism is to live in a society where no one is mocked for anything other than causing explicit harm to others (in which point fire away with extreme prejudice). This is really weird to me - there's nothing about leftism that stops you making fun of people - the problem is when humour is used as a way to oppress and reject people's opinions. My lab is very international in its makeup, and everyone is constantly ribbing each other for dumb poo poo their country does, or when they inadvertently embrace a national stereotype with gusto. Look at the Last Leg for a good example. Mocking the disabled is an awful thing to do, but jokes can be a way for people to build solidarity and show support for the difficulties they all face. Also, some of the stuff they come out with is savage
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Strom Cuzewon posted:And computer touchers and engineers are infamous for attempting to apply their skills in their field to stuff completely outside it, which has terrible consequences for us all. I've been running Valgrind on the electorate for months but I still haven't managed to stop Brexit.
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Tesseraction posted:I've been running Valgrind on the electorate for months but I still haven't managed to stop Brexit. Well yeah, valgrind just tells you which ones are Leavers, you still gotta fire up emacs, edit them out then recompile Britain.
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forkboy84 posted:Is there a more perfectly Trot statement? SUTR is one of 18000 SWP fronts right? They're peak Trot yeah. Yep, along with UAF. LAFA is the banner under which serious antifash in London now unite.
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forkboy84 posted:Yes, that's my point. Technology is far too often used to drive down wages and cut employees rights back and even cut the workforce. The problem isn't technology, it's the economic system. Plus lots of Leicestershire trivia and minutae that everyone (five people from Charnwood) loves. Jakabite posted:(NOT Stand Up To Racism, they're running a separate trot event agreed with the police). 
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Thread-adjacent, poo poo in India is getting really sketchy. A friend of mine was emailed this:quote:I have not been able to contact my family for over a week . The Indian government has completely blocked everything and are completely misinforming the Indian public and the international community. Sharing it here for a signal boost, if you do the Tweets please help out.
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