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Interview with the Vampire is basically the same framing device and episodic vignettes, but it actually has something to say about its characters.
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The most obvious D&D adventure in the books is the side track to kill the dragon in the first book. It's the oh so clever DM who tells the party they're off to fight a dragon, but no wait, it's just a lizard high on meth! How cool is that guys? Also the DM who says that on the way to the adventure, you're shipwrecked. No you don't get to play it. No you can't do anything about it. You land without your gear. What do you do? ie. the worst DM. That is to say, Patrick Rothfuss.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Anne Rice is literally more competent than Rothfuss. 
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Beffer posted:The most obvious D&D adventure in the books is the side track to kill the dragon in the first book. It's the oh so clever DM who tells the party they're off to fight a dragon, but no wait, it's just a lizard high on meth! How cool is that guys? So it's Video Game: The Reckoning Part 2; you lost all your abilities and inventory, uh, for reasons, so you have to do all that poo poo again
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So what you're saying is NotW is the first mainstream LitRPG?
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pentyne posted:Cheese is likely the most innocuous thing is his pack. Asking con girls to follow him up to his room for ice cream does not sound like someone who's just looking for pleasant chat. Is this just rumors at this point? I can certainly believe it, I've just heard this before but only as gossip really, which I'm aware how of lot of lovely people get away with it for a while so not saying there's nothing there.
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Carillon posted:Is this just rumors at this point? I can certainly believe it, I've just heard this before but only as gossip really, which I'm aware how of lot of lovely people get away with it for a while so not saying there's nothing there. A rumor's not a rumor that doesn't die. https://lizbourke.com/2014/01/17/calling-people-on-thoughtless-sexist-sht-justin-landon-on-patrick-rothfuss/ https://mereader.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/sexism-in-the-wise-mans-fear-part-1/ https://jezebel.com/bestselling-fantasy-author-writes-icky-sexist-blog-post-5942221 I don't think anyone has actually accused him of anything yet. It just seems like there are the themes of misogyny in his books, his postings, his comments, his behavior at cons, and the fact he's apparently well connected in the writing community so people there are afraid to criticize him. It's entirely possible he's the equivalent of a virtuous pedophile.
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pseudanonymous posted:A rumor's not a rumor that doesn't die.
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It's totally reasonable to ask for receipts on poo poo like that. To my knowledge there is no documented fire, just an uncomfortable amount of smoke. IIRC the most detailed creepery account was from a goon in this very thread. Totally possible they were embellishing or fabricating poo poo and we're biased against him but they sounded credible and the description of his behavior seemed to track with the better-documented things
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Scifi fantasy authors have a history of being sex pests and the industry has a long history of enabling it and covering it up. Honestly the best outcome is that Rothfuss just writes juvenile wank fantasies for his audience. If the worst thing he does is encourage his readers to be self centered whiny man children that want their lives to be a nonstop porno well.. that's still lovely but it's the average level of every day life lovely, and not "committed a crime and attacked someone" lovely. One of those posts had the phrase "female readers" in it though and that made me laugh. Rothfuss doesn't have female readers, not really.
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HIJK posted:Scifi fantasy authors have a history of being sex pests and the industry has a long history of enabling it and covering it up. Honestly the best outcome is that Rothfuss just writes juvenile wank fantasies for his audience. If the worst thing he does is encourage his readers to be self centered whiny man children that want their lives to be a nonstop porno well.. that's still lovely but it's the average level of every day life lovely, and not "committed a crime and attacked someone" lovely. I have 0 doubt there are neckbeards that force their girlfriends to read his books. A goon in this thread testified about how an ex-boyfriend "knew their relationship was over" when she didn't like Rothfuss.
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well, I am a lady and I did once read both of the books under discussion, although it didn’t take long for it to become less reading and more rubbernecking
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Yeah just to be clear there is no known evidence that Patrick Rothfuss is an actual sex criminal. At worst he is a garden-variety Performative Male Feminist creeppseudanonymous posted:I have 0 doubt there are neckbeards that force their girlfriends to read his books. A goon in this thread testified about how an ex-boyfriend "knew their relationship was over" when she didn't like Rothfuss. I'm like 80% sure you quoted that very goon here
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I don't know if he is a sex pest, but I do know that he isn't a gentleman. You don't tell everyone online how thirsty you are, or how some nice young lady asked for a hug, or how much you like cat sluts or whatever the gently caress. You go about your business and never tell anybody about your sexual exploits, it's unseemly. Women also won't want to be around you if they think you'll blab about poo poo.
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He's a fuckin creep how bout that the one woman I know who likes Rothfuss is, sadly, an English teacher 
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my bony fealty posted:He's a fuckin creep how bout that Oh yeah, where did she go, University of McDonalds?? rack em up boys
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Aug 14, 2019 17:23
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Half of the five-star Goodreads reviews for The Name of the Wind are from women.
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If he signs that contract it'll be the first thing he's written in what.. 10 15 years?
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ElGroucho posted:I don't know if he is a sex pest, but I do know that he isn't a gentleman. Patrick Rothfuss is a Feminist as much as his idol Joss Whedon is.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Half of the five-star Goodreads reviews for The Name of the Wind are from women. I'm scared of what they say but Name of the Wind is pretty light on writing stupid poo poo about women, the sequel is where that poo poo really gets going and Rothfuss makes the classic genre author mistake of exposing his porn preferences to his audience. pseudanonymous posted:I have 0 doubt there are neckbeards that force their girlfriends to read his books. A goon in this thread testified about how an ex-boyfriend "knew their relationship was over" when she didn't like Rothfuss. aye, that was me SatansOnion posted:well, I am a lady and I did once read both of the books under discussion, although it didn’t take long for it to become less reading and more rubbernecking Did anything in particular draw you to them or was it just looking for fantasy books to read?
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HIJK posted:... it came home from the thrift store, probably because the back cover was loaded with glowing quotes from other, better authors; and because at thrift store prices you can generally afford to roll the dice. It’s a behavior I learned from my mother and her father, as we all inhabit the Venn diagram overlap of “doesn’t mind fantasy and science fiction” and “is a total fuckin cheapskate” e: the first was a thrift store get, but the second was courtesy of the local library system, which is good b/c any price would have been too high for that book SatansOnion fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Aug 15, 2019 |
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I know a lot of women who were into NotW when it came out, and most of them have English degrees, some at the PhD level. Some of these were colleagues from grad school, so I respect them as smart people because I'm familiar with their professional work. That said, I don't know how much sentiment has turned against him over the past 10 years because I don't see them much these days since everyone spun out across the country post grad-school. Back then, I'd say that even though most of us had one foot in the Gender and Women's Studies department and thus a pretty robust background in academic feminism, we just had really low expectations of what feminism looked like in Sci-Fi/Fantasy media. People were a lot more positive on a lot of lovely dude "Feminist" stuff back then (Joss, Ready Player One, Rothfuss, etc.). I was way more pro Joss when he was one of the only ones making poo poo that was readily accessible in popular media. For a long time, there just wasn't that much visible stuff that was actually good for women in Sci-Fi/Fantasy so a lot of us just took what we could get. Now that the landscape is better, I think a lot of stuff that slid by in the late 90's and 00's doesn't hold up to reexamination.
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i have a friend who's having health problems and i'm trying to be kind to him yesterday while on mandated bed rest he read this great fantasy novel! have i ever heard of
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HIJK posted:I'm scared of what they say but Name of the Wind is pretty light on writing stupid poo poo about women, the sequel is where that poo poo really gets going and Rothfuss makes the classic genre author mistake of exposing his porn preferences to his audience. I firmly believe that many authors just need to have a fanfiction.net account and write their terrible erotica there and get it out of the system.
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nankeen posted:i have a friend who's having health problems and i'm trying to be kind to him what kind of drugs do they have him on
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ShinsoBEAM! posted:I firmly believe that many authors just need to have a fanfiction.net account and write their terrible erotica there and get it out of the system. Isn’t that how you end up writing twilight
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mewse posted:Isn’t that how you end up writing twilight Not sure if this is  but 50 shades was originally Twilight fanfic.
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Karnegal posted:Not sure if this is Imagine the joke is so high level you don't understand it, and then imagine I'm a fuckin dummy and wrote the wrong book in my joke. It could be either one!!
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my bony fealty posted:what kind of drugs do they have him on Before or after he read the Kingkiller books? 
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ElGroucho posted:Made me think of this thread Schrodingers misogynist.
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Its Coke posted:I'm about 3/4 through the first book and I'm so sick of the academy stuff. It's just Harry Potter but worse, and that conversations between Kvothe and his One True Love are terrible. I want more Amyr and Chandrian and angels and demons and poo poo. I stopped reading the first book after realizing this. I can't loving believe this never came up during all the months I was interested but hadn't bought the book yet, just constant hype for the book and the author. After finishing a good chunk of the book I asked online if the whole thing is just him being the biggest Gary Stu kid/teenager of all time and how much of it will be spent with him at the university. I stopped reading after getting an answer. And today I found out about the Cthaeh scene which sounds cool and it's yet again a tiny part of the whole second book. What a waste of time.
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Don't worry, the third book is going to kick things into high gear any year now.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Don't worry, the third book is going to kick things into high gear any decade now.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Don't worry, Rothfuss is going to kick the bucket any day now. vvvvv EDIT: warning to travellers, prepare yourself before venturing further down Patware fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Sep 10, 2019 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Don't worry, the third book is going to kick things into high gear any year now when Rothfuss gives up and asks Brandon Sanderson to write it for him.
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