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Y'all jabbering about Katy Perry playing junior high pranks on dudes, meanwhile Trump keeps tiptoeing us into a fascist state https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49323324?fbclid=IwAR39qAVfn1WBcGj6GL37OXpZypDhLeXzpUz8NOaFGTY5CrAvH9BQbQIhjDs
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Slim Pickens posted:Y'all jabbering about Katy Perry playing junior high pranks on dudes, meanwhile Trump keeps tiptoeing us into a fascist state While I think Ken Cuchanelli is a douche canoe like the rest of them, but this is just their run of the mill poo poo for the Admin, and ole crypt keeper Steven Miller said something similar a year ago. I’m not sure if was posted in this thread or someplace worse, but there’s a draft EO to lock down the internet that’s making rounds that’s more full on fascism than anything. https://www.salon.com/2019/08/12/leaked-draft-of-trump-executive-order-deemed-unconstitutional_partner/
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Aug 14, 2019 16:37
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Slim Pickens posted:Y'all jabbering about Katy Perry playing junior high pranks on dudes, meanwhile Trump keeps tiptoeing us into a fascist state That Article posted:He later said the poem had referred to "people coming from Europe".
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Aug 14, 2019 16:39
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:I'm sorry, as Jesus once said, "we only want white people of European descent". I think we all forget those words sometimes! 2 Timothy 3:1-5 posted: posted:But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
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SimonCat posted:If a man pulled her pants off without her consent, would it be called an innocent prank? I love how you edited the part of my post calling it sexual harassment to make this stupid loving strawman less facially idiotic. Or do you think sexually harassing coworkers is an innocent prank?
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So the Bible does reference Obama! It’s all the proof I need!
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https://twitter.com/postlocal/status/1161663438969593857?s=19 https://twitter.com/EmGusk/status/1161657350069137411?s=19 I'm equally speechless at both of these things.
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Jarmak posted:No, no that's not. If it's ok with you, the wikipedia definition of sexual assault is "Sexual assault is an act in which a person intentionally sexually touches another person without that person's consent, or coerces or physically forces a person to engage in a sexual act against their will." I would argue that if a large male like myself had forcefully exposed a young woman's vagina in public many people, possibly even you, would describe that as sexual assault. Just because the genders are reversed and Katy Perry did it does not mean it wasn't an "intentional sexual touching without the victim's consent". Most importantly T SWIFT ARMY REPRESENT! ROAR CAN KISS MY WHITE rear end.
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Aug 14, 2019 16:56
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The fascist playbook has already been written, we know what the Republican response to deep dicking the economy will be. The only two questions left are which out-group will be the highest profile when they need a target to redirect their base's anger away from themselves and how far they'll push to cripple democracy to stay in power during the upheaval.
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Slim Pickens posted:Y'all jabbering about Katy Perry playing junior high pranks on dudes, meanwhile Trump keeps tiptoeing us into a fascist state Trump is absolutely taking us back to the period during the 19th century when white nationalism and xenophobia were at a high water mark and the United States had virtually no relevance on the international stage.
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facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/postlocal/status/1161663438969593857?s=19 Recycling yards usually charge to take old tube tvs now. No idea why spam needs pumpkin spice but whatevs.
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bird food bathtub posted:The fascist playbook has already been written, we know what the Republican response to deep dicking the economy will be. The only two questions left are which out-group will be the highest profile when they need a target to redirect their base's anger away from themselves and how far they'll push to cripple democracy to stay in power during the upheaval. "It Could Happen Here" isn't a fictional show, it's a prophecy
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My first thought was the robot from FLCL.  Maybe it's just been on my mind lately because the Dayton shooter's twitter handle was @shadowofatomsk or something like that, which is also a FLCL reference. 
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Chichevache posted:
Youre thinking of 1981, roar is the swift song. Not that it matters because lorde is still the best female artist since fever ray
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXr7lRzBE4o put up today on YT, love seeing interviews like this (from 1971) Nostalgia4Butts fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Aug 14, 2019 |
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Stravag posted:Youre thinking of 1981, roar is the swift song. Not that it matters because lorde is still the best female artist since fever ray Roar is a Katy perry song
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:Roar is a Katy perry song I know the joke was theyre both interchangeable and awful
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Chichevache posted:If it's ok with you, the wikipedia definition of sexual assault is "Sexual assault is an act in which a person intentionally sexually touches another person without that person's consent, or coerces or physically forces a person to engage in a sexual act against their will." I would argue that if a large male like myself had forcefully exposed a young woman's vagina in public many people, possibly even you, would describe that as sexual assault. Just because the genders are reversed and Katy Perry did it does not mean it wasn't an "intentional sexual touching without the victim's consent". No, I wouldn't, because that's not sexual assault, which is on the same level as rape. I was going by the definition provided by RAINN quote:What is sexual assault? https://www.rainn.org/articles/sexual-assault Pulling down someone's pants is not "sexual touching" as it's being used in both those definitions. Pantsing doesn't usually involve even touching the victim except by accident. We can ackowledge there's different bad things with different names that are all unacceptable.
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That's like saying that punching someone in the gut isn't assault because  you touched his shirt, not him.
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Stravag posted:Youre thinking of 1981, roar is the swift song. Not that it matters because lorde is still the best female artist since fever ray CRJ 
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Fister Roboto posted:That's like saying that punching someone in the gut isn't assault because nah
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Jarmak posted:No, I wouldn't, because that's not sexual assault, which is on the same level as rape. Also did you just completely miss the "behavior" part of the definition?
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Fister Roboto posted:That's like saying that punching someone in the gut isn't assault because Punching someone in the gut isn't assault in most places - it's battery. Jarmak is right that generally speaking, sexual assault is akin to rape and pantsing someone does not meet the requirements. it does not meet the requirements for sexual battery in Florida, for example. That is not to say that it isn't a potential criminal offense, but it isn't sexual battery.
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When you guys finish can you just update a SHARP brief and pass it along to the rest of the forums? Please and thanks
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She should have just asked and I’m sure he would have obliged. Was mean of her to then make fun of it.
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:When you guys finish can you just update a SHARP brief and pass it along to the rest of the forums? Please and thanks Would dearly have loved to hear the Q&A portion of those around 2016-17. "So, I can say grab them by the pussy right, that's not sexual harassment now? I'm just using some locker room talk."
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bird food bathtub posted:Would dearly have loved to hear the Q&A portion of those around 2016-17. "So, I can say grab them by the pussy right, that's not sexual harassment now? I'm just using some locker room talk." I'm not kidding when I say that I had to, on several occasions, simply say that the UCMJ does not apply to the president, and that if you do what he says he did, you will get crushed by UCMJ and local laws and even if you're just using bullshit talk, you are in violation of army values and could get punished for harassment, hostile environment, etc.
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Dunno about Canada but here in the good ol US of A she had a catchy summer tune a few years ago and then kinda disappeared. Did she have a better go of it up there? Typical. King Robot is just dropping his kids off all over the place. One day he’ll become more responsible. I hope.
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:When you guys finish can you just update a SHARP brief and pass it along to the rest of the forums? Please and thanks Thanks for the reminder to watch 'Carrier' again.
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Slim Pickens posted:"It Could Happen Here" isn't a fictional show, it's a prophecy He also predicted a future in which leftists conduct pogroms as well.
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Jarmak posted:No, I wouldn't, because that's not sexual assault, which is on the same level as rape. If I catch a probe for calling you a retard, I'll serve it with pride. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:If I catch a probe for calling you a retard, I'll serve it with pride. You're wrong, though, because Jarmak is right. Criminal codes vary per jurisdiction, but pantsing someone is not sexual assault under any that I know of. Now, it is potentially an offense, and potentially an offense that could carry with it sex offender registration, but it is not sexual assault or battery to pants someone regardless of gender. For those that don't know, Jarmak is also a lawyer. He's not talking out of his rear end. We're pointing out nuances in the law and incorrect assumptions based upon lay expectations of how the law works.
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Fister Roboto posted:That's like saying that punching someone in the gut isn't assault because No when you punch someone in the gut you touch them through their clothes. Which is why touching his junk through his pants would be sexual assault. I don't understand why sexual harassment/ gross invasion of privacy isn't something we can be outraged about without having to equivocate getting pants'd with an actual victim of sexual assault.
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Nystral posted:Dunno about Canada but here in the good ol US of A she had a catchy summer tune a few years ago and then kinda disappeared. Came here for Saga ref, can now die in peace.
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Jarmak posted:I don't understand why sexual harassment/ gross invasion of privacy isn't something we can be outraged about without having to equivocate getting pants'd with an actual victim of sexual assault. Honestly? Because the term has a very broad definition that encompasses everything from "coworker makes awkward sex jokes around colleagues in the break room" to apparently exposing someone else's genitalia to a large group of people. So the term is pretty watered down in most people's minds given that the former situation constitutes the vast majority of examples, thus not doing a great job of portraying the seriousness of the offense. You're the lawyer here, but I've gotta believe the pantsing situation would be a slam dunk in a workplace harassment lawsuit. psydude fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Aug 14, 2019 |
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Jarmak posted:No when you punch someone in the gut you touch them through their clothes. Which is why touching his junk through his pants would be sexual assault. Because goons are bad at nuance
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psydude posted:Honestly? Because the term has a very broad definition that encompasses everything from "coworker makes awkward sex jokes around colleagues in the break room" to apparently exposing someone else's genitalia to a large group of people. So the term is pretty watered down in most people's minds given that the former situation constitutes the vast majority of examples, thus not doing a great job of portraying the seriousness of the offense. Personally I think the problem is considering the former not a big deal but the watering down effect is exactly my objection to calling this sexual assault. I've been close to several women who have been sexual assaulted, including being the first new sex partner of a survivor of a particularly heinous date rape. It bothers me equivocating the pain and trauma of sexual assault with getting pants'd.
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Jarmak posted:Personally I think the problem is considering the former not a big deal but the watering down effect is exactly my objection to calling this sexual assault. Yeah, a lot of us have some really personal connections to sexual assault and I think that's everybody's problem right now
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