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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGfWy-Y8i7U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2g0ylnW6lw

One of these is real.

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CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

I still blame Canada for Nelly Furtado becoming a hit in the states, but not Treble Charger.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Jarmak posted:

Personally I think the problem is considering the former not a big deal but the watering down effect is exactly my objection to calling this sexual assault.

I've been close to several women who have been sexual assaulted, including being the first new sex partner of a survivor of a particularly heinous date rape. It bothers me equivocating the pain and trauma of sexual assault with getting pants'd.

I think that's a fair point, and unfortunately it seems we only have two linguistic categories to place sexual misconduct into. But at the same time you've got celebrities stating that viewership of leaked nude photos is sexual assault; clearly public sentiment is against you on this one, although I'm not saying you're wrong.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Maybe just don't take peoples' clothes off without their consent mmkay

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Jarmak posted:


I don't understand why sexual harassment/ gross invasion of privacy isn't something we can be outraged about without having to equivocate getting pants'd with an actual victim of sexual assault.

I just wanted to paint Katy Perry in the harshest possible shade of scum I could for the sake of fake popstar beef. I didn't mean for any of this to be taken seriously.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

psydude posted:

Honestly? Because the term has a very broad definition that encompasses everything from "coworker makes awkward sex jokes around colleagues in the break room" to apparently exposing someone else's genitalia to a large group of people. So the term is pretty watered down in most people's minds given that the former situation constitutes the vast majority of examples, thus not doing a great job of portraying the seriousness of the offense. You're the lawyer here, but I've gotta believe the pantsing situation would be a slam dunk in a workplace harassment lawsuit.

I think you're conflating harassment and assault. The awkward sex jokes and pantsing fall into the bounds of the former, sexual assault is more narrow.

Goes without saying, both are bad. But one is less bad.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

I think you're conflating harassment and assault. The awkward sex jokes and pantsing fall into the bounds of the former, sexual assault is more narrow.

Goes without saying, both are bad. But one is less bad.

Jarmak's point is that both fall under the legal definition of sexual harassment, while other people argued pantsing constitutes a form of sexual assault. I'm not conflating them, just stating that people want to classify it more severely (as assault) because the term "sexual harassment" doesn't sound serious enough to most people, given that it's a broad term that encompasses a lot of different bad behavior.

e: v Yeah that.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
To most people "sexual harassment" is a PC term for catcalling. Because people are horrible idiots.

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Vasudus posted:

To most people "sexual harassment" is a PC term for catcalling. Because people are horrible idiots.

It legitimately depresses me that being a PC term for catcalling is even a thing that would weaken something's impact.

Catcalling is awful.

Jarmak fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Aug 14, 2019

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
It's all awful.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I pantsed a friend in front of a ton of people one time. Just his pants not his underwear. We're not friends anymore for many more reasons than that. He's a piece of poo poo and I'm glad I did it.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Jarmak posted:

It legitimately depresses me that being a PC term for catcalling is even a thing that would weaken something's impact.

Catcalling is awful.

Catcalling is the kind of behavior that should result in a legally allowed beating.

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

I had this as an edit but by the time I figured out the words that expressed what I wanted to say the thread had moved enough that it should have been a new post:

I apologize for being unnecessarily abrasive to a few of you (though a few others deserved it). I need to take a break from discussing this topic because it's bringing me to bad places. I understand that even some of you who I legitimately think are being assholes are doing so with good intentions and from a position that at it's core I agree with.

Ceiling fan
Dec 26, 2003

I really like ceilings.
Dead Man’s Band
I suppose now's not a good time to bring up a story that a Senator is asking "Hey, maybe rape and incest is a good thing. Ever think about that?"

https://mobile.twitter.com/TPM/status/1161689441951526913

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah
wow Rep. Steve King (R) never fails to be like the worst human garbage alive

constantly tops himself, simply unstoppable force of shittiness

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
What the gently caress goes on in his neighborhood?

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Where the gently caress in ny is his district?

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah
I think he reps rural Iowa

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Am i thinking of the wrong king? Thought there was a king r from ny

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

not caring here posted:

What the gently caress goes on in his neighborhood?

Whole lotta rape and incest I guess

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Stravag posted:

Where the gently caress in ny is his district?

Not sure if this is some sort of joke or you're confusing him with Peter King (R) - NY 2

Steve King (R) -IA 4

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

mlmp08 posted:

Not sure if this is some sort of joke or you're confusing him with Peter King (R) - NY 2

Steve King (R) -IA 4

I 100% confused the kings

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

not caring here posted:

What the gently caress goes on in his neighborhood?

The Iowa Republican party actively campaigned against him during the general election and he still won.

e: Oh this is a different turd named King.

Ceiling fan
Dec 26, 2003

I really like ceilings.
Dead Man’s Band
I got mixed up about him being a Rep. Glad at least he isn't a Senator. We definitely aren't wrong about him being a garbage filled rear end in a top hat though.

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah
no, no, this is rape and nazi apologist turd congressperson Steve King representing Iowa's 4th.

lol is wholesome middle america farm country entirely populated by walking bags of storebought coleslaw that speak mostly in bigoted slurs?

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
This dude is a really fascinating dude and he puts out more polished videos and interviews but he's convinced it's a hit, and I'm agreeing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb2Sm3hgL0E

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Ken Bone Comeback posted:

no, no, this is rape and nazi apologist turd congressperson Steve King representing Iowa's 4th.

lol is wholesome middle america farm country entirely populated by walking bags of storebought coleslaw that speak mostly in bigoted slurs?

Actually he's the only republican left in Iowa's house delegation and barely held on to his seat against a first-time leftist endorsed by Bernie Sanders by a 2500 vote margin in 2018

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Ken Bone Comeback posted:

lol is wholesome middle america farm country entirely populated by walking bags of storebought coleslaw that speak mostly in bigoted slurs?

Oh you bet your loving rear end

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Stravag posted:

Where the gently caress in ny is his district?
You're thinking of self-proclaimed terrorism expert Peter King (R-NY). He might actually know a thing or two about terrorism, but that's mostly because he used to raise money for the IRA. :ssh: He's a douche, but nowadays he looks like one of the few "reasonable" Republicans more out of contrast than any virtue on his part.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


liberals think sleeping with your cousin is terrible but killing your child is just fine!!

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

that and hes prolly the most catholic rep possible


also openly talked poo poo on paul ryan when he fired the house chaplain


still a piece of poo poo but im glad someone said something

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Ceiling fan posted:

I suppose now's not a good time to bring up a story that a Senator is asking "Hey, maybe rape and incest is a good thing. Ever think about that?"

https://mobile.twitter.com/TPM/status/1161689441951526913

Never thought I'd see Steve King take the stance that all heterosexual sex is rape.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?
I didn't begin to "stand up for myself" until I was around 18 or so - and I'll save you the long story between getting bullied from age 10 to not ever employing violence until I punched my first Neonazi in the face at age 20 - but pantsing me has been the single thing that has earned anyone a punch to the face since before the time I had the courage to fight back against being bullied.

I recall the first of two times it happened until this day, and there is only one other occasion in my life that I recall to feel more dehumanized or robbed of my dignity than that.

That said, I understand that it is not on the level of sexual assault while still being classified as sexual harassment, so I don't get at all how the notion of it being handwaved away is even a thing, especially if you're on a position of power over the person you're deciding to "pants".

Lastly...what a dumb loving verb you have for that.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


So how bout' that stock market?

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
number down?

<checks news>

number...way down

bird cooch
Jan 19, 2007
Closed -800. 3% hit is solid.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

I can't believe President Joe Biden (a socialist) caused a recession.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


:argh: obamaaaaa

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I really need to buy a house next year because I'm sick of throwing rent money down a black hole. I'm just afraid that the moment I do that the economy is really going to go down hard, and I'll be screwed.

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Casimir Radon posted:

I really need to buy a house next year because I'm sick of throwing rent money down a black hole. I'm just afraid that the moment I do that the economy is really going to go down hard, and I'll be screwed.

It doesn't help, either, that housing prices in a lot of places are now at or above 2008 levels.

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