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indigi posted:why though She got murdered Super spoiler: and they made her corpse into your sword
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It is a loving travesty that I can't make Lysithea kiss Leonie or Annette. And yes, I'm vaguely aware of the likely result in either of those situations  , although I'd like to think that Annette stands a fighting chance of saving her.
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Aug 14, 2019 22:43
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cheetah7071 posted:I'm gonna disagree with this, with the caveat that I've only finished Lions and Edelgard routes and Edelgard is a massively bad communicater and might have extra information that is only told to the player in the other two that makes her make more sense Huh... She says talking to the Almyrian would probably work because they aren't fanatics. E.G, the alliance isn't "because they don't believe the goddess" but "because they can listen to her which Foldans can't".
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Aug 14, 2019 22:44
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Arkeus posted:Huh... She says talking to the Almyrian would probably work because they aren't fanatics. E.G, the alliance isn't "because they don't believe the goddess" but "because they can listen to her which Foldans can't". also in her A support with Manuela she says she likes a lot about the religion just not the dogmatic worshippers (which everyone in power happens to be)
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Aug 14, 2019 22:47
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Arkeus posted:Huh... She says talking to the Almyrian would probably work because they aren't fanatics. E.G, the alliance isn't "because they don't believe the goddess" but "because they can listen to her which Foldans can't". Yeah Avoiding a war is very difficult when your goal number 1 is (depending on the route) "Kill Rhea" or "Remove Rhea from power, using lethal force if necessary", and your largest neighbor's waving banners saying "Rhea forever!". The Empire's cooled on the Church considerably, and parts of the Alliance might tolerate the Empire's policies there, but the Kingdom is, in El's route, immediately willing to hide Rhea. When things reach that point, war is all but inevitable. Maybe diplomacy could have avoided such a crisis, but between Rhea and the Slithers, there were too many forces preventing non-violent resolution for things to go remotely well.
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Aug 14, 2019 22:57
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Because this apparently needs to be pointed out over and over again, the game literally opens with her attempting to murder both heirs of the other two countries on the continent. Diplomacy was never in the cards as far as she was concerned.
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Aug 14, 2019 23:19
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I hadn't looked through Sylvain's support log until now and I loving love that while every other guy will be able to A rank most of the women they can support, of Sylvain's 11 women supports he can only reach A rank with 3 of them e: 12/4 counting female byleth
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Aug 14, 2019 23:23
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Oxygen Deficiency posted:I completely missed the dark seals in my first run, and from reading online, it seems like its basically impossible, barring insane luck, to get them without prior knowledge. Which sucks cos I had plans to make Hubert a dark mage and was really looking forward to it. "The shop will start selling dark seals soon! I just know! Any day now!" You know you can highlight enemies and press X, it'll tell you what they drop. It's easy and obvious where they are because the Death Knight is so early on.
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Aug 14, 2019 23:24
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rannum posted:I hadn't looked through Sylvain's support log until now and I loving love that while every other guy will be able to A rank most of the women they can support, of Sylvain's 11 women supports he can only reach A rank with 3 of them last night i enjoyed ingrid just dressing sylvain the gently caress down in front of a bunch of other students, and then seeing dorothea dress down lorenz, in their C supports in that order
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Aug 14, 2019 23:24
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Oh man the difficulty spike sure ramped up for the mission where you fight miklan
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Aug 14, 2019 23:49
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My main issue with Edelgard is that they don't do enough to correlate the crests with the church. Her biggest argument against fighting the church is that it is propping up crests as proof of divine authority, but we don't see the church doing much of that. The only time I can remember Rhea or the church propping up crest ownership is when she says that Miklan didn't have the divine permission to use the Lance of Ruin. Most of the rest of the time, the church is focused mainly on protecting itself and its own institutions. She doesn't do enough to prove to me that the church's destruction is neccesary to stop the crests from being propped up or that the crests wouldn't be given so much importance without them. To be fair, the church might have been able to make crests look bad by revealing the truth, but I think that would mostly lead to people like Marianne and not really solve the problem.
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Aug 15, 2019 00:05
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Lord Koth posted:Because this apparently needs to be pointed out over and over again, the game literally opens with her attempting to murder both heirs of the other two countries on the continent. Diplomacy was never in the cards as far as she was concerned. My favorite thing about this harebrained scheme is her not getting chopped in half by the bandit leader she herself hired is all thanks to Byleth being at the right place at the right time Of all the spinning plates in motion at this time, the idiot bandit leader should not have been the riskiest
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Aug 15, 2019 00:19
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Edelgard is just really bad at scheming. All of her plans are pretty terrible. She really should have tried to get Claude on her side, at least the man can make a plan.
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Aug 15, 2019 00:27
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Why are the stat cap up renown rewards even in the game, honestly? You can't carry over level or stats, so you're only goign to reach those already-high caps through auxilary grinding (So normal or dlc only) and liberal usage of stat boosters (which even with amiibo and gardening, are still pretty rare). And caps are so high because your level goes to 99 and at THAT point its just like...what is possibly going to challenge you at level 60 much less 99. & the big DLC will probably be a side story with its own independent level scale (probably wont even level up) like Fates & SoV's story dlc. Game can be kind of weird in places
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Aug 15, 2019 01:33
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Deified Data posted:My favorite thing about this harebrained scheme is her not getting chopped in half by the bandit leader she herself hired is all thanks to Byleth being at the right place at the right time It's pretty big brain thinking to show up to the Hit you ordered without remembering to tell the assassins not to whack you also since they won't know or care
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Aug 15, 2019 01:38
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Look, if you need a competent scheme, you ask Claude, not Edelgard.
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Aug 15, 2019 01:44
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Claude ran away at the first sight of bandits, which probably ruined the whole thing
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Aug 15, 2019 01:45
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Tae posted:Claude ran away at the first sight of bandits, which probably ruined the whole thing Listen, if your plan is flawed by the idea of "Won't run towards the murder hobo's you hired." you need a better plan. And given we see Dimitri snap dudes necks with his bare hands. it really seems like of the three the one most in danger of being killed by bandits was Edelgard.
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Aug 15, 2019 01:51
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One thing I think we can all agree on is that it was a spectacular and hilariously bad plan. Like, even if it succeeded, what then? I can sorta see how getting Dimitri killed would destabilize Faerghus, but killing one dude in line for dukedom in the Alliance is just going to lead to someone else leading the Alliance. Maybe she was counting on there being even more infighting then? But even if that happened, she absolutely wasn't in a position then to even act on the opportunity, even assuming her plan had worked. I have a question about a different "I have no idea what they were thinking with this plan" thing (Blue Lions/Golden Deer part 2 spoilers): what was the point of keeping Rhea captive for five and a half years? What was Edelgard hoping to achieve by keeping the one person she absolutely wanted dead alive that long? Was this addressed at some point and I missed it?
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Aug 15, 2019 02:21
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Harrow posted:One thing I think we can all agree on is that it was a spectacular and hilariously bad plan. I don't recall a reason ever being given. It could have been an attempt to use her as a hostage, but I don't think they ever actually do that?
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Aug 15, 2019 02:23
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Maybe they just know that Lorenz is probably gonna be the next Alliance leader if not for Claude, and he has Empire leanings? Or maybe they just think he's incompetent.
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Aug 15, 2019 02:27
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Harrow posted:
I think she was kept alive ironically by the Slither faction, as they wanted Flayn's blood early in the game
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Aug 15, 2019 02:33
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Tae posted:I think she was kept alive ironically by the Slither faction, as they wanted Flayn's blood early in the game yeah that's what i was thinking, they could extract more dragon blood from rhea and do more crest stone fuckery over 5.5 years
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Aug 15, 2019 02:37
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I thought we had a spoiler thread Anyway, I hope the DLC is some kind of Shamir storyline. She's way too cool and she needs more content!!
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Aug 15, 2019 02:48
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Chocolate Bunny posted:Edelgard is just really bad at scheming. All of her plans are pretty terrible. She really should have tried to get Claude on her side, at least the man can make a plan. Hellioning posted:Maybe they just know that Lorenz is probably gonna be the next Alliance leader if not for Claude, and he has Empire leanings? she doesn't have the time to wait for Claude, Lorenz, or even Dimitri to take power. like the proverbial crack head, she's gotta make moves and poo poo isn't always gonna be safe or ideal
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Aug 15, 2019 03:04
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Tournaments are loving weird. Lance tournament. Asks for level 31. Ingrid is 30. B+ in lances. Does 1 damage per hit and takes 15 damage per hit. Felix is 28. E in lances. Does 15 damage per hit and attacks twice. Takes 10 damage per hit. 
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Aug 15, 2019 03:13
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Just enter Catherine and watch the hilarious Kamoshida-esque abuse of power
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Aug 15, 2019 03:15
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I really wish there were more things to do in the monastery to pass time. I'm post-timeskip and I just usually spend on all my time slots on pairing people up for meals. No clue how Byleth handles 8 meals in a day.
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Aug 15, 2019 03:17
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Even more curious when you remember Byleth is essentially undead and has no metabolism
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Aug 15, 2019 03:18
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Fojar38 posted:Even more curious when you remember Byleth is essentially undead and has no metabolism Byleth has a metabolism. Eats, drinks, has a pulse, that kind of thing. Just... no heartbeat.
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Aug 15, 2019 03:20
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Harrow posted:One thing I think we can all agree on is that it was a spectacular and hilariously bad plan. The Alliance isn't guaranteed to protect the Church when the empire inevitably attacks the Church. But the Holy Kingdom Faerghus was always going to side with the church. So I think it was just a hit on Dimitri, and everyone else was a side product of her bad planning.
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Aug 15, 2019 03:22
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chiasaur11 posted:Byleth has a metabolism. Eats, drinks, has a pulse, that kind of thing. A pulse is the same as a heartbeat so I dunno what to make of the fact that the game says Byleth has one but not the other 
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Aug 15, 2019 03:23
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Fojar38 posted:A pulse is the same as a heartbeat so I dunno what to make of the fact that the game says Byleth has one but not the other Pulse and heartbeat ARE different. A pulse refers to the mechanical motion of blood through the circulatory system, while a heartbeat is the contracting motions of the heart. It's just that in a normal person you can't have one without the other. Basically, Byleth's heart doesn't work but their blood flows through their body like normal.
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Aug 15, 2019 03:33
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The mechanical motion of the blood is caused by the heart acting as a pump. With no heartbeat you have no motion of blood, so apparently something is moving it that isn't Byleth's heart or something.
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Aug 15, 2019 03:36
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Fojar38 posted:The mechanical motion of the blood is caused by the heart acting as a pump. With no heartbeat you have no motion of blood, so apparently something is moving it that isn't Byleth's heart or something. Magical dragon powers?
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Aug 15, 2019 03:37
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Fojar38 posted:The mechanical motion of the blood is caused by the heart acting as a pump. With no heartbeat you have no motion of blood, so apparently something is moving it that isn't Byleth's heart or something. Its an anime
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Aug 15, 2019 03:37
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I mean considering crests are probably dragon blood that does explain it
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Aug 15, 2019 03:38
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Fojar38 posted:The mechanical motion of the blood is caused by the heart acting as a pump. With no heartbeat you have no motion of blood, so apparently something is moving it that isn't Byleth's heart or something. Magic blood cells that swim around through the veins under their own power, clearly.
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That was one of the fastest DLC leaks ever
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