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Golbez
Oct 9, 2002

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If you want to take a shot at me get in line, line
1 2 3!
Baby, I've had all my shots and I'm fine

Lycus posted:

I can generally figure out what's happening elsewhere, but I can't make any sense out of Russia.

Many of the borders correspond to the internal borders of Russia, but not all. Who knows.

Also, what's going with Greater Jordisraeli Arabia down there?

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Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Accurate.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

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buddhist nudist
May 16, 2019

26+48=1 is gonna be a hard sell.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

who would be the irish version of JEB! to superimpose on that map

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Peanut President posted:

who would be the irish version of JEB! to superimpose on that map

Charles, Prince of Wales

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!


(Obviously)

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


More of a politically-loaded chart than map, but still:



I particularly like Egypt, yeah I'm sure a country with a ~5% historical rate of growth will see a sustained growth of >15% year-on-year (this is using the 2019 rather than 2017 figures as a base).

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I too predict massive unprecedented future growth in some of the countries poised to be hardest hit by climate change.

Blut
Sep 11, 2009

if someone is in the bottom 10%~ of a guillotine
Egypt and India are nonsensical. Brazil, Turkey and probably China are very optimistic. Climate change is going to wallop India & Egypt, and the gradual erosion of the free trade consensus is going to hit them all. The combination is going to drastically reduce growth rates in the developing world over the next decade+.

A bad chart, data wise. But its a nice design I guess, at least.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?


What's up with the sizeable number of Dutch ships going to Svalbard?

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Whaling.

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012
way less trade between spain and the philipines than i would have expected

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

Private Speech posted:

More of a politically-loaded chart than map, but still:



I particularly like Egypt, yeah I'm sure a country with a ~5% historical rate of growth will see a sustained growth of >15% year-on-year (this is using the 2019 rather than 2017 figures as a base).

Yes Japan, a country with the same inflation-adjusted GDP in 1993 as 2019 is suddenly going to take off and get a 30% boost in 11 years. Egypt is quite a hoot too. Even in Sisi’s dreams those numbers aren’t even remotely attainable.

That source just looks like some random set of online idiots though , "visual capitalist"?

E: also PPP is a really dumb way to rank global economies. PPP is a good way to rank GDP per capita in terms of quality of life, but makes absolutely zero sense to rank GDP PPP (per capita or no) for world economic output. PPP has a far lower effect on world trade, especially for countries that are dependent upon primary resource extraction like Russia and Brazil and (with Egypt’s new natural gas field) Egypt. ppp doesn’t matter whatsoever if you’re selling oil.

So their real forecast is Egypt at around 1.5 tn by 2030 which is theoretically possible if that gargantuan gas field comes online in time including freezing and all other necessary infrastructure. But, there is absolutely 0 chance of that occurring on time, let alone way beyond projections as anyone with the slightest clue about Egypt would know.

Saladman fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Aug 14, 2019

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Capitalist economists are some of the dumbest most consistently wrong people on the face of the earth.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Sampatrick posted:

way less trade between spain and the philipines than i would have expected

I think they traded with Spain in two steps, Philippines -> Mexico -> Spain, rather than directly.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Saladman posted:

That source just looks like some random set of online idiots though , "visual capitalist"?

It's just a website that reposts a bunch of economics stuff, the actual 'research' was by standard chartered.

Not that any of it makes it any less dumb.

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012

Badger of Basra posted:

I think they traded with Spain in two steps, Philippines -> Mexico -> Spain, rather than directly.

I'm aware of that I just thought it would be a more significant amount

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Sampatrick posted:

I'm aware of that I just thought it would be a more significant amount

Just because Magellan did it once does not mean it was sensible to do it on the regular.

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe

Badger of Basra posted:

I think they traded with Spain in two steps, Philippines -> Mexico -> Spain, rather than directly.

I thought, and that map also seems to show, it was more between Lima and Manila than Mexico.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

A pen pal is visiting me next week. She grew up in Virginia Beach. I told this to a friend, and asked if she's a Southern Belle.

Is that the South? Where does the South start?

e: bbcode

Count Roland fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Aug 15, 2019

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Count Roland posted:

A pen pal is visiting me next week. She grew up in Virginia Beach. I told this to a friend, and asked if she's a [iSouthern Belle[/i].

Is that the South? Where does the South start?

The modern South proper basically starts when you're headed south from DC and leave it's suburbs. So yes, the Norfolk/Virginia Beach area is the South.
That is not the Deep South though.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Count Roland posted:

A pen pal is visiting me next week. She grew up in Virginia Beach. I told this to a friend, and asked if she's a [iSouthern Belle[/i].

Is that the South? Where does the South start?

Virginia was the goddamn capital of the confederacy, and before that the cradle of American-style slavery. It's always The South.

Charitably, those areas consistently held by the Union Army may be accorded border status.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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In addition to PPP comparisons being nonsensical it's only been 2 years and that chart is already clearly and laughably wrong

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008




:smithicide:

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007


:thunk: @ all the "private" state university systems

e: also the Denver International Airport is owned and operated by the City and County of Denver

Badger of Basra fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Aug 15, 2019

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


Badger of Basra posted:

:thunk: @ all the "private" state university systems

States fund them so little these days they may as well be private.

You are right though, the author probably took "private" to mean "non-federal" or something stupid like that.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
Yeah it's completely arbitrary and their methodology was merely "how can we manipulate these employment figures so people can go OOH SCARY WALMART HAS ALL THE JOBS but also we don't look too blatant about it".

For what it's worth on the Denver Airport topic, all regularly scheduled commercial airliner served airports in the country are owned by either a government directly or an entity owned by multiple governments e.g. the major commercial airports in the NYC area being owned by the Port Authority that is an entity of both NJ and NY. Except for the Branson, Missouri airport, which is owned and operated by a private corporation, and incidentally barely has any services - currently only receiving seasonal flight schedules from Frontier Airlines.

There have been attempts to privatize American scheduled service airports in the past, it's legal to do so with approval from the FAA and several airports were granted preliminary permission in the 2000s. But they've essentially all collapsed from lack of investment interest and the fact that all major and minor airlines prefer to work with governments. It's said airlines that operate services between the US and countries with major privatized and part-privatized airports find the government airports of the US far nicer to deal with.


(There are tons of actually privately owned airports across the US of course. But they're only serving things like business/personal charters, people flying their own hobby aircraft, crop dusting, etc. Not airliners outside of special events.)

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Count Roland posted:

A pen pal is visiting me next week. She grew up in Virginia Beach. I told this to a friend, and asked if she's a [iSouthern Belle[/i].

Is that the South? Where does the South start?

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

:hai:

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
While Ol Virginny is definitely in The South (tm) southern belles were the daughters of plantation owners and are more closely considered a "thing" in the carolinas and georgia

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
So did ships in the Mediterranean and Black Sea just not bother keeping logs?

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

So did ships in the Mediterranean and Black Sea just not bother keeping logs?

I guess the brutal domination of the Mediterranean by the Barbary States kept Europeans out of the Mediterranean for 115 years. That's probably why the French built a canal linking the Mediterranean to the Atlantic ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_du_Midi ), so they could ship out of Marseille without being dominated by the space-age-tech Berber warships.

But more seriously, good question. I guess this is not all ships, but only those which sailed to/from colonies directly? I'm still surprised you don't see more from like, Marseille, as I imagine not all French ships going to the New World departed from the Atlantic ports.

E: Also it's a bummer that Portugal is missing. I'm also suspicious that Lima has like two ships going into and out of it, given that that's the main port where all of Bolivia's massive wealth sailed out of.

Saladman fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Aug 15, 2019

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe
What is or was France's main Atlantic port? I don't know much about France's naval history at all.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Brest is a big one for the navy

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Seems more likely the Mediterranean would be dominated by Italians, who are excluded from the map.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Bloodnose posted:

What is or was France's main Atlantic port? I don't know much about France's naval history at all.
From north to south: Dunkerque, Brest and Bordeaux. Bordeaux is a commercial hub, Dunkerque is mostly north sea commerce and really small next to Anvers and Rotterdam. Brest is mostly transatlantic travel and the French Fleet.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Aug 15, 2019

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cugel
Jan 22, 2010

Bloodnose posted:

What is or was France's main Atlantic port? I don't know much about France's naval history at all.

The map is like a perfect illustration of the Atlantic triangular slave trade; so the main ports should be Nantes, La Rochelle, Le Havre and Bordeaux. Saint-Malo, Lorient, Honfleur, Marseille, Dunkerque, Rochefort, Vannes, Bayonne and Brest also took part in the triangular trade.

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