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Some chunk of the internet is melting down over them casting black people in Wheel Of Time
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Aug 15, 2019 04:20
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I liked most of the Legends of Ethshar books, though I wish there was a good series long series set there. The threads between certain books is nice but I'd take a nice 3+ book series that goes deep in to the world, especially one dealing with the inner workings of the wizards' guild.
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Aug 15, 2019 04:52
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The Glumslinger posted:Some chunk of the internet is melting down over them casting black people in Wheel Of Time werent people from Two Rivers already supposed to be brown like, rand's white and this makes him look weird and foreign in his hometown because that's how the distant Aiel look i probably shouldn't engage with this since as always its just The Usual Suspects drumming up racist controversy for political reasons but this sounds like book-accurate casting to me
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Aug 15, 2019 05:14
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PupsOfWar posted:werent people from Two Rivers already supposed to be brown I mean, I'd always just assumed they were Latino  My biggest complaint is that the dude they cast as Perrin doesn't look buff enough, but I guess that's what Hollywood trainers are for. I really like the Nynaeve casting, and I hope they have someone big name for Lan or Thom
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Aug 15, 2019 05:22
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Book is more tan-brown than ethnic-brown, e.g.  Nynaeve's casting strikes me as particularly inspired. They'll have a lot of room to play with her anger issues.
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Aug 15, 2019 05:25
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I don't like Rand's cheek bones.
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Aug 15, 2019 05:28
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if they're being bold with casting the characters i wonder if they're also looking into updating the aesthetic and cultural influences of the setting from how they are typically visualized like maybe every little hamlet and town in Andor doesn't have to be an indistinguishable Ye Olde English renn faire village
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Aug 15, 2019 05:34
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The Aiel are based on Irish Celts, those guys are pale in any company.
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Aug 15, 2019 05:46
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My problem with the Wheel of Time casting is that the Wheel of Time is terrible. Which is less of a problem with the casting and more of an opportunity to complain about WOT I guess.
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Aug 15, 2019 08:37
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Is Ted Chiang's latest book good? I'm still on a diet of short stories (whenever I could spare the time). Still slowly going through Ken Liu's The Paper Menagerie. I just got to the title story, after a really weird and skeevy one where a serial killer kills sex workers with eye/brain implants to blackmail important people. I hope the next one's good. (The other story I soured on was the one about Taiwan that degenerates into torture porn because white people ruin everything.)
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Aug 15, 2019 09:33
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Nynaeve's casting strikes me as particularly inspired. They'll have a lot of room to play with her anger issues. braid joke
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Aug 15, 2019 09:57
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FuzzySlippers posted:I just finished Raven Tower and it was amazing! I thought the Ancillary series was great so I expected to like it but it surpassed my expectations. I'm betting the second person narrative will bug some people but I enjoyed it (I also really liked the Broken Earth trilogy). I have some spoiler questions/musing from finishing it The Raven is still alive at the beginning of the book, Hibal is keeping his brother alive, because he knows when his brother dies it means the Raven is also dead. The Raven dies during the time Eolo and Mawat are talking to S&P, maybe because of what S&P says.
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Aug 15, 2019 10:13
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Schneider Heim posted:I'm still on a diet of short stories (whenever I could spare the time). Still slowly going through Ken Liu's The Paper Menagerie. I just got to the title story, after a really weird and skeevy one where a serial killer kills sex workers with eye/brain implants to blackmail important people. I hope the next one's good. (The other story I soured on was the one about Taiwan that degenerates into torture porn because white people ruin everything.) I like Ken Liu's shorts (the one about Guan Yu in America is absolutely wonderful) but he does tend to write a lot of variations on "China is awesome, I feel disconnected from my ancestral heritage, I blame colonialism." Which is totally valid, but after a while it starts to feel a bit worn out.
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Aug 15, 2019 13:26
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Schneider Heim posted:Is Ted Chiang's latest book good? It's got some really neat ideas! I liked his first book more, but that's not at all a knock against Exhalations.
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Aug 15, 2019 13:29
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tooterfish posted:The Aiel are based on Irish Celts, those guys are pale in any company. Are the Aiel really pale? I got the sept thing. I guess in my young head I just assumed they were rather brownish/dusky, because they lived in a desert. Though I suppose not actually long enough for that to be selected for, in the books. And they seem so obviously a reference or homage to the Fremen, who were so blatantly Arab.
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Aug 15, 2019 16:41
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pseudanonymous posted:Are the Aiel really pale? I got the sept thing. I guess in my young head I just assumed they were rather brownish/dusky, because they lived in a desert. Though I suppose not actually long enough for that to be selected for, in the books. And they seem so obviously a reference or homage to the Fremen, who were so blatantly Arab. Yeah, they're all supposedly celtic pale. Lots of big cloth robes!
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Aug 15, 2019 16:49
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, they're all supposedly celtic pale. Lots of big cloth robes! It's funny how you can read something, even read it several times, and ignore description in favor of what's already in your head. I probably read the first 5 or 6 WoT books like 10 times. Let's not get into why.
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Aug 15, 2019 16:51
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pseudanonymous posted:It's funny how you can read something, even read it several times, and ignore description in favor of what's already in your head. I probably read the first 5 or 6 WoT books like 10 times. Let's not get into why. There was a brief period in the early 1990's where the wheel of time was probably the best new thing on the fantasy shelves in your local Waldenbooks. The first few books are genuinely entertaining, and at that point Neil Gaiman and Pratchett hadn't really gotten any American publicity / weren't being marketed here. So if you looked at the store shelves in Waldenbooks, half the shelves were probably D&D licensed fiction, two-thirds of the remainder were ancient stuff you'd already read, and the rest was, like, Piers Anthony. Relative to what was commonly available then, pre-internet, Wheel of Time was a big leap forward. Like I still remember when my local Waldenbooks started carrying Lovecraft reprints because before then his stuff had been genuinely hard to find.
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Aug 15, 2019 16:57
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:There was a brief period in the early 1990's where the wheel of time was probably the best new thing on the fantasy shelves in your local Waldenbooks. Wow, that really takes me back. I had forgotten about that period. I spent a lot of time looking through used bookstores as a kid because you never knew what kind of old paperbacks you might find, and the chain bookstores all had the same 50 or 100 books. Even later on, in the late nineties and early aughts, this was true where I lived.
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Aug 15, 2019 18:24
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It's still insane to me how incredibly diverse and available a selection of reading material we have access to now. Everything I read as a kid was whatever looked good in the library, or what I could beg my parents to buy from Borders. Now I can buy just about anything ever published in any genre and be reading it in seconds. It's legitimately my favorite improvement in technology since I was a child. Some of the poo poo I read back then out of lack of alternatives was truly awful.
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Aug 15, 2019 20:23
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The first few books are genuinely entertaining, and at that point Neil Gaiman and Pratchett hadn't really gotten any American publicity / weren't being marketed here. That would have been the years when Pratchett's US distribution was absent. (After 'Witches Abroad' there was a long gap during which nothing was coming out over here, the very first thing I bought over the internet was a couple UK-only Pratchett books from a specialty bookstore and even then I had to call them on the phone to give them the credit card.) That aside, I don't remember the early 90s being as dire as all that. Even in the category of 'epic-ish fantasy trilogies books' you had Katherine Kerr, Katherine Kurtz, Melanie Rawn, Jennifer Robeson, Barbara Hambly, Elizabeth Moon, and Tad Williams.
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Aug 15, 2019 21:25
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fritz posted:
Kurtz was doing the exceptionally grim Harrowing subcycle, from which GRRM would crib even more heavily than the fact that both were working from the War of the Roses would require. And more than half of the books on shelves were Dragonlance, Forgotten Realms, or post-Dragonlance Weis and Hickman projects.
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Aug 15, 2019 22:19
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Thranguy posted:Kurtz was doing the exceptionally grim Harrowing subcycle, from which GRRM would crib even more heavily than the fact that both were working from the War of the Roses would require. And more than half of the books on shelves were Dragonlance, Forgotten Realms, or post-Dragonlance Weis and Hickman projects. Maybe I'm transphobic or whatever, but my mind was blown when ~15-year-old me found out that MARGERET Weiss and TRACY Hickman were both men. Again when I realized they both sucked. I mean actually, their Dragonlance novels were probably among the best D&D novels ever written but after that...
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Aug 15, 2019 22:38
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pseudanonymous posted:Maybe I'm transphobic or whatever, but my mind was blown when ~15-year-old me found out that MARGERET Weiss and TRACY Hickman were both men. Again when I realized they both sucked. I mean actually, their Dragonlance novels were probably among the best D&D novels ever written but after that... p sure Margaret Weiss has always been a woman and Tracy Hickman has always been a man?
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Aug 15, 2019 23:08
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Campbell posted:p sure Margaret Weiss has always been a woman and Tracy Hickman has always been a man? Oh cool, I'm ignorant too. Okay apparently at some point I learned Hickman was a man and must've just assumed both or something I dunno.
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Aug 15, 2019 23:10
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TheAardvark posted:It's still insane to me how incredibly diverse and available a selection of reading material we have access to now. Everything I read as a kid was whatever looked good in the library, or what I could beg my parents to buy from Borders. so many lovely rpg novels. shadowrun, dark sun, battletech. had a giant stack of that crap.
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Aug 15, 2019 23:22
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TheAardvark posted:It's still insane to me how incredibly diverse and available a selection of reading material we have access to now. Everything I read as a kid was whatever looked good in the library, or what I could beg my parents to buy from Borders.  I mean, I will forever be grateful to my parents for having a bookshelf well-stocked with C.J. Cherryh and Terry Pratchett, but I also read a lot of schlock, mostly based on what was available in the library and, later, what Baen had available online for free.
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Aug 15, 2019 23:33
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, they're all supposedly celtic pale. Lots of big cloth robes!
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Aug 16, 2019 00:01
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Some of you people are broken. All those AD&D novels were loving awesome when you were 12, stop acting like you were turning your noses up at them. Sure, they don't hold up now, 20-30 years and a lifetime of taste refinements later, but they were great when you were the target age for them. Obviously this doesn't apply if you are old and weren't 12 when they were coming out.
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Aug 16, 2019 00:46
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range wasn't a problem in australia, cost was/is books here a 2 or 3 times the price as the US at a minimum, often more.
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Aug 16, 2019 00:51
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branedotorg posted:range wasn't a problem in australia, cost was/is I think this was why I pretty much exclusively bought books from second-hand stores in my childhood and teenage years. Even into adulthood, actually, when Book Depository became a thing around maybe 2008 or 2009? Which then led pretty neatly into the period where the Australian dollar was worth $1.10 US.
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Aug 16, 2019 01:10
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Trial by Fire, Caine Riordan #2: I haven't read such a gung-ho military sci-fi that also has a strong thread of "war sucks and we should get to the negotiating table ASAP" running through it at the same time. It's impressive.
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Aug 16, 2019 01:18
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branedotorg posted:range wasn't a problem in australia, cost was/is This seems very strange, since I would assume the books were printed locally.
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Aug 16, 2019 01:40
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:https://twitter.com/alloy_dr/status/1160566576791347200 Not to cause a food derail but how did you clean the eggshells for this? Just crack out a half dozen and rinse? Crush them up into small bits? ...I’ve wanted to make Klava for literal decades.
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Aug 16, 2019 02:33
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CaptainCrunch posted:Not to cause a food derail but how did you clean the eggshells for this? Just crack out a half dozen and rinse? Crush them up into small bits? I put them in a metal tea ball strainer and boiled them for a bit until the whites stopped foaming off of them, then rinsed them off. I did crush them up but it probably wasn't necessary. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Aug 16, 2019 |
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Aug 16, 2019 02:36
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Ornamented Death posted:Some of you people are broken. All those AD&D novels were loving awesome when you were 12, stop acting like you were turning your noses up at them. Sure, they don't hold up now, 20-30 years and a lifetime of taste refinements later, but they were great when you were the target age for them. Well, yeah, I wasn't grudgingly reading them because they sucked but I had nothing else to read, I was enjoying them because at that age their many and severe flaws were not at all evident to me. And I had a lot more free time, so my threshold for "this isn't worth my time" was waaaaaaay lower.
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Aug 16, 2019 03:29
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Ornamented Death posted:Some of you people are broken. All those AD&D novels were loving awesome when you were 12, stop acting like you were turning your noses up at them. Sure, they don't hold up now, 20-30 years and a lifetime of taste refinements later, but they were great when you were the target age for them. The Drizzt novels are still amazing. There are like 20 of them in the series tho. I've only made it through 11 and they just keep getting better. The only AD&D books I have read that came off as more young adult were the original Dragonlance saga books. They read like the Hobbit. The "newer" ones are more straight fantasy and less catered for younger readers. Philthy fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Aug 16, 2019 |
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Aug 16, 2019 03:33
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don't get me wrong, I enjoyed that stuff at the time! fond memories.
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Aug 16, 2019 03:42
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uber_stoat posted:don't get me wrong, I enjoyed that stuff at the time! fond memories. Oh man, the Urban Dog Shaman books! Loved those!!
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Aug 16, 2019 03:45
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ulmont posted:This seems very strange, since I would assume the books were printed locally. UK publishers, not US, a protected market to support local industry and cabalistic price fixing. For a long time if the book was published locally a seller (wholesale) had to buy from that publisher even if importing was cheaper. so local publishers published everything they could - a great range! - but set prices as high as they could, often 30-100% higher than buying from OS. So the local arms of publishers bought from parent companies and i assume did some complicated tax stuff. It is better now but prices, even on ebooks are still significantly higher than US/UK.
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Aug 16, 2019 05:31
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