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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Zaphod42 posted:

Ehhhh, "if you were really raped you'd be more upset" is a very very bad take.

Although so far it seems like you need compound V as a baby to get the full supe treatment.
Yeah, I apologize. Guess I'm used to stuff not operating with nuance and expected it throwing huge flashing lights at the audience.

It seems like Homelander was dosing adults with V to create his super-creeps, so it is probably more like the survivability for adults is really bad. Let's just say stem cells graft V better or some pseudoshit like that.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

FilthyImp posted:

Yeah, I apologize. Guess I'm used to stuff not operating with nuance and expected it throwing huge flashing lights at the audience.

It seems like Homelander was dosing adults with V to create his super-creeps, so it is probably more like the survivability for adults is really bad. Let's just say stem cells graft V better or some pseudoshit like that.

All good, I don't think you meant anything by it.

You're right, they explicitly said that Homelander was dosing adults to create his supe-terrorists, and he mentioned something like "it was messy, I see why you used children; still, enough survived..."

It could be they got lucky with Becca or maybe they figured out some way to make it work better on adults. Or also maybe something about the pregnancy, like giving her compound V was okay because the baby helped manage it or something. :shrug: we'll see.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

If you go to the city's site for filming stuff, you can find the start/end dates for season 2:

https://www.toronto.ca/business-economy/industry-sector-support/film/current-productions-and-news/
Camera start: 06/17/2019
Camera Wrap: 11/01/2019

So it looks like they have quite a bit of work to do before they're close to delivering, plus all the VFX work, though that can certainly overlap with filming. They started back in June.

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

bring back old gbs posted:

If you go to the city's site for filming stuff, you can find the start/end dates for season 2:

https://www.toronto.ca/business-economy/industry-sector-support/film/current-productions-and-news/
Camera start: 06/17/2019
Camera Wrap: 11/01/2019

So it looks like they have quite a bit of work to do before they're close to delivering, plus all the VFX work, though that can certainly overlap with filming. They started back in June.

Does this show even have much CGI? That's usually the bottle neck. Homelanders eye beams and almost every other power could've been in 90s Superman. They're well done, but not high graphics. The dolphin probably cost the most money.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
I'd like to see the Deep get some more marine life killed. I could not stop laughing at the dolphin and then I saw lobster bit and lost it all over again.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

TMMadman posted:

I'd like to see the Deep get some more marine life killed. I could not stop laughing at the dolphin and then I saw lobster bit and lost it all over again.

I was dying at the lobster bit because I saw it coming a mile away.

"NONONO YOU HAVE TO TELL HIM--- too late! hahahaha" deep is such a fuckup lol

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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TMMadman posted:

I'd like to see the Deep get some more marine life killed. I could not stop laughing at the dolphin and then I saw lobster bit and lost it all over again.

Someone said they wanted to see him go full ecoterrorist and blow up a tanker or offshore platform and kill a huge swath of marine life from the oil spill

I agree

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
Is it me or did the Deep want to gently caress the dolphin and lobster just before he got them killed? He's not just killing what he loves, he is also constantly cock blocked.

breadshaped
Apr 1, 2010


Soiled Meat
The lobster bit was confusing. I've never cooked or eaten em but I thought they were supposed to be cooked alive.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Grendels Dad posted:

Is it me or did the Deep want to gently caress the dolphin and lobster just before he got them killed? He's not just killing what he loves, he is also constantly cock blocked.

I wasn't getting that vibe from the lobster bit, but definitely was getting it from the dolphin bitm

Starks
Sep 24, 2006

TMMadman posted:

I wasn't getting that vibe from the lobster bit, but definitely was getting it from the dolphin bitm

The Amazon trivia for that scene says “Dolphins are notoriously horny animals”

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007

Grendels Dad posted:

Is it me or did the Deep want to gently caress the dolphin and lobster just before he got them killed? He's not just killing what he loves, he is also constantly cock blocked.

It sounded more like the dolphin wanted to gently caress him.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Bedshaped posted:

The lobster bit was confusing. I've never cooked or eaten em but I thought they were supposed to be cooked alive.

Some places will offer to steam them for you in-store. There's two ways to off them; either knife them and drop them in boiling water ASAP, or just put them in a pot of boiling water alive.

Aside from that it was just hilarious.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Bedshaped posted:

The lobster bit was confusing. I've never cooked or eaten em but I thought they were supposed to be cooked alive.

I believe they were traditionally sold and taken home to cook live, but in recent years there has been discussion that lobsters feel pain when being boiled alive and are now killed 'humanely' when sold.

But I could be wrong or it could depend on the area.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
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Straight White Shark posted:

Someone said they wanted to see him go full ecoterrorist and blow up a tanker or offshore platform and kill a huge swath of marine life from the oil spill

I agree

He'll reinvent himself as captain Global and the Globateers. They'll get some janky ship and try to intercept a Japanese whaling vessel but end up ramming some narwhal by accident and having its horn impale one of the Globateers.

Grendels Dad posted:

Is it me or did the Deep want to gently caress the dolphin and lobster just before he got them killed? He's not just killing what he loves, he is also constantly cock blocked.

It's the other way around, he tells the dolphin "if I touch it will you shut up?". That dolphin had deep wrapped around his little flipper.

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007

If deep had successfully rescued the dolphin we could have had a dolphin rape scene instead of the gill-fingering.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Rubellavator posted:

If deep had successfully rescued the dolphin we could have had a dolphin rape scene instead of the gill-fingering.

Just loving lmao at that scene too

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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The gill-fingering was weird since it was him being sexually assaulted as revenge porn for him forcing himself on Annie. I'm all for punishing rapists but not with more rape

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Panfilo posted:

He'll reinvent himself as captain Global and the Globateers. They'll get some janky ship and try to intercept a Japanese whaling vessel but end up ramming some narwhal by accident and having its horn impale one of the Globateers.
I cannot wait for the subplot where The Deep gets imprisoned in North Korea.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Starks posted:

The Amazon trivia for that scene says “Dolphins are notoriously horny animals”

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

i felt bad for the dolphin and lobster because dying is bad

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

I've been seeing a lot of YouTube videos with the title something like "The Ending of The Boys S1 Explained." I see them and I just wonder... what exactly did people need explained about the ending? Or is it just that people just expect every ending to be some kind of "Nolan-type" twist now they see it even when it's not there?

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
But living is also hell so :shrug:

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Yeah I don't really like the terms "twist" or "cliffhanger" for the finale. Seemed like it was just new plot threads for next season! Nothing about it invalidated the events of the current season, it just added complicated new angles to some (and not all) of the plot lines.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Chairman Capone posted:

I've been seeing a lot of YouTube videos with the title something like "The Ending of The Boys S1 Explained." I see them and I just wonder... what exactly did people need explained about the ending?
There's an entire industry of people doing this for every movie and television show in existence. They should be lined up and guillotined.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌

Stairmaster posted:

i felt bad for the dolphin and lobster because dying is bad

Yea I felt bad for the dolphin. I'm glad they didn't have it say sad lines of dialogue and was looking for a handy instead, made the death a little less sad. Lobster was more frustrating. He could have just said no faster then watching him put the lobster on the cutting board and pick up the knife.

I felt worse for the them than the whole plane of innocent people and children.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Hey the dolphin was partially responsible for its own death. After all, the Deep kept telling the dolphin that he would be happy to give the handy to it later, but the dolphin just kept pushing for it.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Maybe The Deep has internalized rape culture because he's had pods of dolphins pestering him for handies his whole life.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Doltos posted:

The gill-fingering was weird since it was him being sexually assaulted as revenge porn for him forcing himself on Annie. I'm all for punishing rapists but not with more rape

I was just confused why he didn't tell the woman to get the gently caress off him and get out. If it was meant to parallel him and Starlight it did a bad job.

Part of me wonders if the plan was for the woman to threaten some kind of false accusation if he didn't go with it, in which case I'm glad they cut it but they probably should have just cut the whole scene. His life falling apart was good enough schadenfreude without heavy-handed role reversal.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Am I the only one happy to see the only hot male chest vagina(s) action available since Videodrome?

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

Doltos posted:

The gill-fingering was weird since it was him being sexually assaulted as revenge porn for him forcing himself on Annie. I'm all for punishing rapists but not with more rape

I'm of two minds. On one hand I definitely agree and found an extra degree of skeeviness in how they gleefully showed him being mounted and penetrated in full detail after they had the restraint to have Starlight's rape be completely desexualized and not show the actual act at all, but on the other hand considering vast swaths of the population still view prison rape as retributive justice as well as totally hilarious the fact that it was as much about his powerlessness as anything else and there was no gay panic put it streets ahead of most of its peers.


It's funny because the whole point of the dolphin rape in that episode of KotH was pretty much exactly the same of what happened to The Deep, Hank experiencing it made him sensitive to and receptive of the sexual harassment Luane was encountering from her customers later in the episode.

And then Hank throws the catcalling customer into the tank for some Revenge Rape at the end of the episode because Mike Judge.

Chairman Capone posted:

I've been seeing a lot of YouTube videos with the title something like "The Ending of The Boys S1 Explained." I see them and I just wonder... what exactly did people need explained about the ending? Or is it just that people just expect every ending to be some kind of "Nolan-type" twist now they see it even when it's not there?

These videos exist almost entirely because of hate clicks from people who click on them and watch them to smirk at how dumb people are for clicking on and watching them. It's like how most lifehack videos are now just collections of obtuse useless oddities because way more people want to watch a video to clown on the weirdness of soaking an egg in maple syrup rather than want to get actual useful information online.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
My wife and I binged this show in 2 days and it's goddamn amazing.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I read that as BINGed at first so clearly Microsoft has successfully broken my brain.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
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jabby posted:

I was just confused why he didn't tell the woman to get the gently caress off him and get out. If it was meant to parallel him and Starlight it did a bad job.

Part of me wonders if the plan was for the woman to threaten some kind of false accusation if he didn't go with it, in which case I'm glad they cut it but they probably should have just cut the whole scene. His life falling apart was good enough schadenfreude without heavy-handed role reversal.

He didn't resist because she threatened to say he assaulted her, and in light of what he did to Starlight they would take it at face value and his career would be over. The whole reason he was in Sandusky was to keep him out of the way, they didn't want to deal with more PR disasters.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Gotta love the irony of sending an accused rapist to a town called Sandusky.

Norwegian Rudo
May 9, 2013

FilthyImp posted:

She wasn't as dishevelled and shellshocked as would be expected/communicated if it were non-consensual.
It seemed more like "Oh god what the gently caress did I do jesus" kind of regret

I don't think there's much point debating whether it was rape or not based on this scene as it seemed obvious to me that it was deliberately shot so that it could be either.

FilthyImp posted:

Yeah true. I think some of the disparity I'm reading into it also reflects on Butcher's need for it to be what he believes.
I.e. the shot of Becca outside on the bench looks like someone that'a anxious about a decision not scared for their life.

Wasn't that supposed to be just before she disappeared, not after the rape/sex? So presumably she has found out about the pregnancy and/or Homelander being the father. Maybe she is considering Vought's offer to disappear her?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Gotta love the irony of sending an accused rapist to a town called Sandusky.

There's no way that wasn't on purpose.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Maybe Cedar Point paid for advertising and they worked it in with a monkey paw situation.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Panfilo posted:

He didn't resist because she threatened to say he assaulted her, and in light of what he did to Starlight they would take it at face value and his career would be over. The whole reason he was in Sandusky was to keep him out of the way, they didn't want to deal with more PR disasters.

Ah, must have missed that line when I was cringing so hard.

It's a shame really, it's uncool of the show to depict woman throwing around false rape accusations after they handled the stuff with Starlight pretty well.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

jabby posted:

I was just confused why he didn't tell the woman to get the gently caress off him and get out. If it was meant to parallel him and Starlight it did a bad job.

Part of me wonders if the plan was for the woman to threaten some kind of false accusation if he didn't go with it, in which case I'm glad they cut it but they probably should have just cut the whole scene. His life falling apart was good enough schadenfreude without heavy-handed role reversal.

Its a reversal showing how the deep now has no power and that was what enabled him.

Now he's weak and himself can be victimized.

I thought "and now the rapist gets raped!" Was a little ham fisted but I see what they were going for.

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