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: "A 11 horas del anuncio, Mauricio Macri dejó sin efecto el congelamiento del precio de los combustibles por tres meses"
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That's how long his commitments last. It's been happening since he was inaugurated. The government is trapped in the ultimate catch-22: they can't do what they should do (actual measures protecting the consumer market, SMEs, the poor) lest they anger the shrinking electoral base and the IMF, nor they can continue in their pursuit of free markets (or whatever they were doing, because that didn't look like liberalism to me, more like cronysm supported by public works conglomerates) bringing everyone down on a race to the bottom. Macri ain't a lame duck, he's a loving paraplegic duck.
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Aug 15, 2019 01:17
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Silver lining for Argentinians: Steam games are now on sale for 30% off. Sort of. You'll be paying purchases in dollars (which includes Steam and Netflix, for example) from your credit card statement at the current dollar price. You can just use Rapipago/PagoFacil and skip that whole problem, of course.
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Aug 15, 2019 01:24
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i guess its unfair that i never had a salary get liquidated by hyperinflation and my parents did
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Aug 15, 2019 01:33
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ArfJason posted:Maybe personal but profession? Thats ounds like ingeniero en sistemas Im a psychologist working as an accountant in an hmo. I wish i was in IT
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Aug 15, 2019 01:35
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Dek posted:Im a psychologist working as an accountant in an hmo. how did you make the switch from psych to accounting, finished another degree? or took some kind of course?
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Aug 15, 2019 01:53
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Doctor Jeep posted:how did you make the switch from psych to accounting, finished another degree? or took some kind of course? When you enter high school you can choose different orientations, one is accounting. I'm a "Perito Mercantil" I started working here to support myself while studying, when I graduated it became difficult to start my own practice, and soon after macri happend. I can't leave a work that pays moderately well and have health benefits, less now that my wife is preagnant. I now have my own practice, but it doesn't generate enough money to support a family. I always failed accounting subjects. but it turns out that in the end I can perform quite well.
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Aug 15, 2019 14:04
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Aug 15, 2019 16:13
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https://twitter.com/revistaanfibia/status/1162044945735344128?s=21 Saw this article and it made me wonder: does anyone in Argentina actually think there will be a “fernandismo”? I was assuming most people had no illusions about what the dynamic was going to be.
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Aug 15, 2019 17:58
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He's a cfk puppet lol Nobody believes otherwise
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Aug 15, 2019 18:28
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Transient People posted:He's a cfk puppet lol They said Nestor was Dhualde's puppet... and look how it turned out.
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Aug 15, 2019 19:47
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I'm firmly in the "If CFK wanted to be president again she would be running for that right now" camp. My read is she showed up to give all the Kirchnerists someone they could rally behind without actually having to govern. Any other reading sounds conspiranoid to me. I could be wrong, but I see no evidence to indicate otherwise.
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Aug 15, 2019 20:15
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Badger of Basra posted:https://twitter.com/revistaanfibia/status/1162044945735344128?s=21 Analysts in Argentina are too eager to decree that each political group aligns completely behind a leader. You don't only have the obvious peronismo but also kirchnerismo, cristinismo for Cristina Kirchner, macrismo for Macri, carriotismo (???) for Carrió, lavagnismo (!?!) for Lavagna... The reality is that allegiances are as fluid as they are elsewhere and these are just shorthand for stupid articles. There's no clear cut, monolithic ideology or unrelenting acolytes behind any of these.
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Aug 15, 2019 21:17
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Tony Sorete posted:carriotismo that'd be horrifying
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Aug 15, 2019 21:39
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GimmickMan posted:I'm firmly in the "If CFK wanted to be president again she would be running for that right now" camp. My read is she showed up to give all the Kirchnerists someone they could rally behind without actually having to govern. Any other reading sounds conspiranoid to me. I could be wrong, but I see no evidence to indicate otherwise. You think she lost too much political capital to run and gave up the reins to someone else then? Cause I could see that too, but I'm not sure if her base turned against her like that. Definitely felt like she wanted to run for a very long time.
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Aug 15, 2019 21:40
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I think the big issue is the big ideological shift that will happen ie will capital and some price controls are restored or not. What will be done with the IMF or the US/China? Admittedly, Macri may be a bit lucky because the damage of his administration will likely last for years.
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Aug 15, 2019 21:40
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Ardennes posted:I think the big issue is the big ideological shift that will happen ie will capital and some price controls are restored or not. What will be done with the IMF or the US/China? Picking sides between USA/China is something that hopefully won't happen because both are good business partners and horrible otherwise Capital and price controls...is gonna be interesting, cause the way the investors reacted to Fernandez winning, I don't expect them to try to get close to us any time soon. Hopefully this forces our own industrial complex to be revitalized? But that's probably a pipedream, tbqh.
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Aug 15, 2019 21:42
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Aug 15, 2019 21:51
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thought of that video again and it still makes my stomach churn. jesus christ
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Aug 15, 2019 21:52
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Transient People posted:You think she lost too much political capital to run and gave up the reins to someone else then? Cause I could see that too, but I'm not sure if her base turned against her like that. Definitely felt like she wanted to run for a very long time. I don't think she ever lost that much political capital. People say that she attached herself to Alberto because she herself alone couldn't possibly win, but what people saying this are missing is that the rest of the PJ needed CFK more than CFK needed the rest of the PJ. Yes, she lost the 2017 legislatives, but FPV was still the 2nd strongest force in the country. PJ lacked a strong presidential candidate to the point they even had to beg Lavagna to present himself as one (their motto for 2019's run was "There is a 2019" for gently caress's sake, that's how low their standards were, they celebrated their mere existence). Lavagna didn't want anything to do with this nonsense and almost didn't go to the PASO, because he kept saying for months he would either be "supported by the whole party" (which is impossible) or "not run at all". Meanwhile people had been bugging CFK since 2017 to announce her candidacy or to at least say she did not intend to run, because her image was (supposedly) comparable to Macri's for those two years, yet she spent most of that time silent when she could've easily been nonstop campaigning. Add that to all the things she's been saying about the effects of her war with Clarin on her personal life, most critically the deterioration of Florencia's health, and it looks to me that she doesn't want the baggage that comes with a presidency anymore. But that's just my reading. Maybe her egyptian pharaoh complex will reemerge december 11 and she'll be screaming obscenities while interrupting people's novelas again.
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Aug 15, 2019 22:47
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Transient People posted:Picking sides between USA/China is something that hopefully won't happen because both are good business partners and horrible otherwise It won't happen with you guys but Bolsonaro is trying to go full in with the USA for a while now even though a lot of his big business supporters think it's going to be catastrophic lol
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Aug 15, 2019 22:49
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Dek posted:They said Nestor was Dhualde's puppet... and look how it turned out. Duhalde was weaker than CFK and Nestor was stronger than Alberto. Alberto doesn't manage anything, that's what is "off" about the dynamic. He doesn't have a current post, nor does he have a provincial party answering to him. He has people who back him, but he has no solid support base that won't just defect overnight (this is Argentina after all). CFK has lots of traditional support networks, and her own party-with-a-party in the form of the campora. anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GToxlmUzYI4
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Aug 15, 2019 22:57
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GimmickMan posted:I don't think she ever lost that much political capital. People say that she attached herself to Alberto because she herself alone couldn't possibly win, but what people saying this are missing is that the rest of the PJ needed CFK more than CFK needed the rest of the PJ. Yes, she lost the 2017 legislatives, but FPV was still the 2nd strongest force in the country. PJ lacked a strong presidential candidate to the point they even had to beg Lavagna to present himself as one (their motto for 2019's run was "There is a 2019" for gently caress's sake, that's how low their standards were, they celebrated their mere existence). Lavagna didn't want anything to do with this nonsense and almost didn't go to the PASO, because he kept saying for months he would either be "supported by the whole party" (which is impossible) or "not run at all". Yeah, it's that pharaoh complex that had me thinking this is just her using a patsy...but it's important to remember she's human too so this is totally possible. Who really knows with this country lmao
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Aug 15, 2019 22:58
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Is it okay if I ask some "baby's first Latin America" questions?
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Aug 15, 2019 23:00
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Nothing to lose from it! Talking about our misery helps us feel a little better.  What do you want to know about?
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Aug 15, 2019 23:06
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Just watch Esperando la Carroza, it'll tell you all you need to know about Argentina and from there you can extrapolate to the rest of the latino countries
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Aug 15, 2019 23:08
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Okay. The first question I have is why are countries like Brazil and what not so relatively populated compared to their colonizer countries? Portugal is a tiny nation, yet Brazil is like the 8th most populated in the world. Spain is a mid-size country yet it's colonies number in the hundred millions. Did these nations just have crazy high birth rates after the initial immigrants came in?
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Aug 16, 2019 00:46
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punk rebel ecks posted:Okay. They're not, though. Latin American countries are incredibly sparsely populated, compared to European countries. Brazil has three times the population of the United Kingdom in 40 times the surface area. Argentina has 7 times the area of Germany but only half the population. The answer is Latin American countries are loving huge and that's skewing the proportions.
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Aug 16, 2019 00:51
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Pochoclo posted:They're not, though. Latin American countries are incredibly sparsely populated, compared to European countries. This is true, Latin American countries can't crack the Top 30 in population density, even with all the migration of europeans, slaves and the native population at the time. http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-density/ Puerto Rico is highest at 36. Large countries like Brazil, Argentina and Mexico aren't even in the Top 100. EDIT: The United States has a higher population density than Brazil. El Chingon fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Aug 16, 2019 |
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Aug 16, 2019 02:35
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I was under the impression that almost all the white people who went to Brazil were Portuguese.
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Aug 16, 2019 03:52
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Transient People posted:Picking sides between USA/China is something that hopefully won't happen because both are good business partners and horrible otherwise Arguably China may not care, but the US certainly does, especially when it comes to geopolitical questions. quote:Capital and price controls...is gonna be interesting, cause the way the investors reacted to Fernandez winning, I don't expect them to try to get close to us any time soon. Hopefully this forces our own industrial complex to be revitalized? But that's probably a pipedream, tbqh. Granted, it seems a unwinnable situation, since in order to gain foreign investment it requires a unsustainable currency policy. It is basically why much of why Latin America may always be screwed. In addition, a much cheaper peso will make exports less expensive, the government is going to be under a lot of pressure from creditors. That said, investors have already sent their message.
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Aug 16, 2019 04:01
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punk rebel ecks posted:I was under the impression that almost all the white people who went to Brazil were Portuguese. Nope. Southern Brazil had a big, BIG influx of German and Italian immigrants, as a means to "whiten" the Brazilian population even, pre-WW1. The state I'm from, Rio Grande do Sul, is actually very white and has a lot of people with German or Italian last names.
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Aug 16, 2019 04:02
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El Chingon posted:This is true, Latin American countries can't crack the Top 30 in population density, even with all the migration of europeans, slaves and the native population at the time. The native population at the time went from outpopulating Europe to only a few million in the span of a decade.
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Aug 16, 2019 04:02
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punk rebel ecks posted:I was under the impression that almost all the white people who went to Brazil were Portuguese. Not really, there was a huge migration drive by japanese, italians and germans during the late 1800s and early 1900s due to the coffee boom to the south/southeast region and encouraged by the government who believed heavily in eugenics and wanted to 'whiten' the country. E: Darn, beaten
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Aug 16, 2019 04:03
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Ardennes posted:China may not care 
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Aug 16, 2019 04:07
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Why would so many Europeans pick Brazil and other Latin American countries over say America and Canada, being that the latter were so much more developed?Conspiratiorist posted:The native population at the time went from outpopulating Europe to only a few million in the span of a decade. The plagues were that bad... Jesus Christ it was the apocalypse. Plutonis posted:Not really, there was a huge migration drive by japanese, italians and germans during the late 1800s and early 1900s due to the coffee boom to the south/southeast region and encouraged by the government who believed heavily in eugenics and wanted to 'whiten' the country. Interesting.
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Aug 16, 2019 05:20
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punk rebel ecks posted:Why would so many Europeans pick Brazil and other Latin American countries over say America and Canada, being that the latter were so much more developed?  Literally this, especially down south. There was a lot of land and not enough people, so they just gave immigrants pieces of it.
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Aug 16, 2019 05:42
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punk rebel ecks posted:The plagues were that bad... Don't forget the genocide!
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Aug 16, 2019 05:55
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Another question I have is...well...why is South America so much less developed and poorer than North America? America and Canada are some of the richest and most developed nations on Earth (though America is starting to lose its rank). Yet, say Brazil and Colombia seem so much further behind. I always assumed because with America the "right things" tended to happen in history. Such as how suffrage for all white men/women/POCs came at a much earlier time. How the Union won the civil war. FDR getting elected over fascists or marxist-leninists, etc. Is it really that simple? Or is it due to lack of resources, power, etc? Dias posted:
Oh poo poo. That makes a lot of sense then. I know America had cheap land (especially in the West) but free? That's something else. 100YrsofAttitude posted:Don't forget the genocide! I was under the impression that like 90% of the native population died due to disease as the colonialists sucked at killing them. That's at least how it played out in America.
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Spain was a pretty poo poo colonial overlord. The Dominican Republic for example might literally only be visited by ships once a year, and that fleet had to handle 100% of soldier pay, imports/exports and everything else. It wasn't uncommon for something to happen and the ships just didn't come, and the colony was just left on its own for several years at a time. Kind a made it hard to build a functioning economy when the mother country sometimes forgot you existed but still banned foreign ships from even visiting.
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