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Nostalgia4Butts: Jun 1, 2006; WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/politics/assault-weapons-ban-fox-news-poll-gun-control/index.html

fox news poll showing 67% support for assault weapon ban

# ? Aug 15, 2019 21:35

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EBB: Feb 15, 2005

NPR news reporting has been hot garbage for years, and I used to be a daily listener. It happened over time.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 21:38

Kawasaki Nun: Jul 16, 2001; by Reene

EBB posted:

NPR news reporting has been hot garbage for years, and I used to be a daily listener. It happened over time.

NPR is dogshit

# ? Aug 15, 2019 21:39

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/politics/assault-weapons-ban-fox-news-poll-gun-control/index.html

fox news poll showing 67% support for assault weapon ban

How else are manufacturers supposed to convince people who are already sitting on a dozen stripped lowers to buy twenty more?

# ? Aug 15, 2019 21:41

Wasabi the J: Jan 23, 2008; MOM WAS RIGHT

shame on an IGA posted:

How else are manufacturers supposed to convince people who are already sitting on a dozen stripped lowers to buy twenty more?

There is absolutely a loving fix by fox. They're trying to scare Republican voters.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 21:52

bengy81: May 8, 2010

EBB posted:

NPR news reporting has been hot garbage for years, and I used to be a daily listener. It happened over time.

Trump broke NPR, I still listen to some local coverage, and shows like 1A and Reveal are good. Morning Edition and ATC are hot garbage now.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 21:54

Flying_Crab: Apr 12, 2002

At this point I don�t see what good banning them would do unless you confiscate/prohibit the transfer of them. There are millions of ARs, etc in the US. I�ve got one complete rifle and a second complete lower that I got for like $120 on an impulse buy, there are for sure nuts out there that own like 50.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 21:55

Bored As Fuck: Jan 1, 2006; Fun Shoe

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/politics/assault-weapons-ban-fox-news-poll-gun-control/index.html

fox news poll showing 67% support for assault weapon ban

I'd love to see that same poll after the respondents were told exactly what an "assault weapon" is, what it consists of, and what it wouldn't ban.

A Mini-14 or Mini-30 can do just as much damage as an AR15 yet it's not an assault weapon.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 21:59

Smiling Jack: Dec 2, 2001; I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Ban semiautomatic weapons with detachable magazines, limit internal mags to 10 rounds.

The Mini-14 has been used in multiple mass shootings, mostly in Canada.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 22:01

Acebuckeye13: Nov 2, 2010; Against All Tyrants; Ultra Carp

Smiling Jack posted:

Ban semiautomatic weapons with detachable magazines, limit internal mags to 10 rounds.

The Mini-14 has been used in multiple mass shootings, mostly in Canada.

Just make them NFA Title II weapons, bam, done.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 22:13

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

bengy81 posted:

Trump broke NPR, I still listen to some local coverage, and shows like 1A and Reveal are good. Morning Edition and ATC are hot garbage now.

Nice Polite Republicans. Once their funding got slashed and they started sucking Koch to pay the bills it's become the escort service of propaganda to Fox's street corner whoring.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 22:27

Wingnut Ninja: Jan 11, 2003; Mostly Harmless

Wait wait don't tell me is still pretty good. They seemed to give way fewer fucks after Trump won.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 22:35

Smiling Jack: Dec 2, 2001; I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Just make them NFA Title II weapons, bam, done.

Works for me. Also throw in a ban on private sales but make every DMV or police station a place where you can do a NICS check and transfer for free.

It's still gonna leave thousands of weapons out there for decades but you gotta start somewhere.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 22:36

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

In-state transfers not requiring FFL mediation is absurd in the face of Wickard v. Filburn

Also NPR was dead to me as soon as they cancelled Talk of the Nation. Listening to Neal lose his patience and politely hang up on dumbasses was the highlight of my day.

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Aug 15, 2019

# ? Aug 15, 2019 22:47

Nick Soapdish: Apr 27, 2008

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-eyes-a-new-real-estate-purchase-greenland-11565904223

WSJ posted:

WASHINGTON�President Trump made his name on the world�s most famous island. Now he wants to buy the world�s biggest.
The idea of the U.S. purchasing Greenland has captured the former real-estate developer�s imagination, according to people familiar with the deliberations, who said Mr. Trump has, with varying degrees of seriousness, repeatedly expressed interest in buying the ice-covered autonomous Danish territory between the North Atlantic and Arctic oceans.
In meetings, at dinners and in passing conversations, Mr. Trump has asked advisers whether the U.S. can acquire Greenland, listened with interest when they discuss its abundant resources and geopolitical importance, and, according to two of the people, has asked his White House counsel to look into the idea.
Some of his advisers have supported the concept, saying it was a good economic play, two of the people said, while others dismissed it as a fleeting fascination that will never come to fruition. It is also unclear how the U.S. would go about acquiring Greenland even if the effort were serious.
With a population of about 56,000, Greenland is a self-ruling part of the Kingdom of Denmark, and while its government decides on most domestic matters, foreign and security policy is handled by Copenhagen. Mr. Trump is scheduled to make his first visit to Denmark early next month, although the visit is unrelated, these people said.
The White House and State Department didn�t respond to a request for comment. Officials with Denmark�s Royal House and the Danish embassy in Washington didn�t immediately respond to requests for comment, nor did officials with Greenland�s representative office in Washington and Greenland�s prime minister�s office.
While it is unclear how far the president will push the idea, U.S. officials view Greenland as important to American national-security interests. A decades-old defense treaty between Denmark and the U.S. gives the U.S. military virtually unlimited rights in Greenland at America�s northernmost base, Thule Air Base. Located 750 miles north of the Arctic Circle, it includes a radar station that is part of a U.S. ballistic missile early warning system. The base is also used by the U.S. Air Force Space Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command.
The U.S. has sought to derail Chinese efforts to gain an economic foothold in Greenland. The Pentagon worked successfully in 2018 to block China from financing three airports on the island.
People outside the White House have described purchasing Greenland as an Alaska-type acquisition for Mr. Trump�s legacy, advisers said. The few current and former White House officials who had even heard of the notion described it with a mix of anticipation and apprehension, since it remains unclear how far the president will push the idea.
It unleashed a cascade of questions among his advisers, such as whether the U.S. could use Greenland to establish a stronger military presence in the Arctic, and what kind of research opportunities it might present.
Though it has vast natural resources across its 811,000 square miles, Greenland relies on $591 million of subsidies from Denmark annually, which makes up about 60% of its annual budget, according to U.S. and Danish government statistics.
Though Greenland is technically part of North America, it is culturally and politically linked to Europe. Following World War II, the U.S. under President Harry Truman developed a geopolitical interest in Greenland and in 1946 offered to buy Greenland from Denmark for $100 million. But Denmark refused to sell. And that was the second failed attempt�the State Department also launched an inquiry into buying Greenland and Iceland in 1867.
At a dinner with associates last spring, Mr. Trump recounted that someone had told him at a roundtable that Denmark was having financial trouble over its assistance to Greenland, and suggested that he should consider buying the island, according to one of the people.
�What do you guys think about that?� he asked the room, the person said. �Do you think it would work?�
The person described the question less as a serious inquiry and more as a joke meant to indicate �I�m so powerful I could buy a country,� noting that since Mr. Trump hadn�t floated the idea at a campaign rally yet, he probably isn�t seriously considering it. The person believed the president was interested in the idea because of the island�s natural resources and because it would give him a legacy akin to former President Dwight Eisenhower �s admission of Alaska into the U.S. as a state.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was scheduled to visit Greenland in May with the aim of discussing long-term peace and sustainable economic developments, particularly since �we�re concerned about activities of other nations, including China, that do not share these same commitments,� a senior State Department official said at the time. Mr. Pompeo was also scheduled to visit the New York Air National Guard in Kangerlussuaq, who provide support to U.S. scientists that are conducting research on Greenland�s ice cap.
His entire trip was called off at the last minute due to escalating tensions with Iran.
Kenneth Mortensen, a real-estate agent in Nuuk, Greenland�s capital, said that the running joke in Greenland currently is that Mr. Trump is traveling to Denmark with the sole intention of buying their island. But he noted that Mr. Trump might run into some trouble.
�You can never own land here,� Mr. Mortensen said, as all land is owned by the government. �In Greenland, you get a right to use the land where you want to build a house, but you can�t buy.�
�Of course, buying Greenland is a different issue altogether,� he added. �I�m not sure about that.�

Greenland to become Trumplandia, every home a Trump Tower

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:09

pantslesswithwolves: Oct 28, 2008

gently caress the moon.

gently caress Mars.

WE�RE GOING TO GREENLAND, BITCHES!!!!!

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:15

Stravag: Jun 7, 2009

Hurray for less hospitable iceland i guess?

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:18

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

That�ll change with the climate :dadjoke:

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:19

ZombieApostate: Mar 13, 2011; Sorry, I didn't read your post.

I'm too busy replying to what I wish you said

bengy81 posted:

Trump broke NPR, I still listen to some local coverage, and shows like 1A and Reveal are good. Morning Edition and ATC are hot garbage now.

I was listening to 1A 2 or 3 weeks ago where they were asking questions of a liberal and an independent voter, both from the midwest, iirc. They then had the Director from some conservative think tank there in studio as a third guest to poo poo all over both of them any time the two voters criticized anything Trump/Republicans were doing. As if pitting a professional republican against two average people wasn't slanted enough, the host made no attempt to challenge or contradict the think tank lady at any point. I used to listen to NPR all the time, but this hasn't been an isolated incident and now I have no interest. It's thinly veiled right wing radio with a peeling, moldy veneer of liberalism left over from the past.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:23

Jarmak: Jan 24, 2005

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Just make them NFA Title II weapons, bam, done.

I've been anti gun control for a very long time (though in perspective, I'm a MA resident and have never thought our requirements unreasonable so in context thats "not more gun control then MA already has") but in the last year or two I've come around to thinking that this or a complete ban is needed.

I'm still sitting on Class A paperwork I've never gotten around to filing because I'm not going to get guns without a safe that I can't afford right now. I'd love to have an AR15 or similar when that happens but I'm more than willing to give that up to keep them out of the hands of most the idiot fucks in this country. The idea that they had a legitimate use outside being a cool toy went out the window for me when it became clear that the "overthrow the tyrant" types really are more interested in installing one.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:27

Nystral: Feb 6, 2002; Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

EBB posted:

NPR news reporting has been hot garbage for years, and I used to be a daily listener. It happened over time.

What�s better and gives me news in a podcast form at about 10 minutes every weekday morning?

And the politics podcast seems to be pretty good diving into the issues and causes.

Haven�t listened to the radio broadcasts in years though.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:36

Nostalgia4Butts: Jun 1, 2006; WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Jarmak posted:

"not more gun control then MA already has"

my old boss ran a nra handgun course that i took since he didnt charge me and needed a seat filled. never filed the paperwork after.

im in CT, so 1/4 of the class was "do not drive with weapons in your trunk over the MA border. you will be charged with trafficking"

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:40

Stravag: Jun 7, 2009

About half of my ccw class in nc was when you get close to the magical line where shooting someone is justified. The instructors favorite way around that wsd having a can of hirnet spray that shoots 20 feet at hand instead because if you hit then with that theyre just blinded and you dont have to worry about a shooting investigation

Stravag fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Aug 15, 2019

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:43

sharknado slashfic: Jun 24, 2011

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-eyes-a-new-real-estate-purchase-greenland-11565904223

Greenland to become Trumplandia, every home a Trump Tower

Trumps Folly

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:45

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-eyes-a-new-real-estate-purchase-greenland-11565904223

Greenland to become Trumplandia, every home a Trump Tower

If true, this is the stupidest thing I've ever read.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:46

Bell_: Sep 3, 2006; Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us

Stravag posted:

About half of my ccw class in nc was when you get close to the magical line where shooting someone is justified. The instructors favorite way around that wsd having a can of hirnet spray that shoots 20 feet at hand instead because if you hit then with that theyre just blinded and you dont have to worry about a shooting investigation

I hear that chat in the break room in my office, and it kills me. Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and ISIL combined don't masturbate at the thought of killing Americans nearly as much as these assholes do.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:46

Tryzzub: Jan 1, 2007; Mudslide Experiment

Nystral posted:

What�s better and gives me news in a podcast form at about 10 minutes every weekday morning?

And the politics podcast seems to be pretty good diving into the issues and causes.

Haven�t listened to the radio broadcasts in years though.

bbc global news podcast is usually p decent, but its 30 mins

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:46

Stravag: Jun 7, 2009

Bell_ posted:

I hear that chat in the break room in my office, and it kills me. Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and ISIL combined don't masturbate at the thought of killing Americans nearly as much as these assholes do.

To be fair the instructor tried to spend way less time on it, it was most of the people in the class who kept wanting clarification. There were like 30 people in the class

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:51

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

My CCW class in Virginia was taught by a 400-pounder wearing BDUs who spent most of it ranting about Obama and wishing he could use castle doctrine to justify killing "looters"

The other instructors acted visibly pissed whenever they had to show students how to load the range's busted-rear end assortment of handguns.

# ? Aug 15, 2019 23:58

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Jarmak posted:

I've been anti gun control for a very long time (though in perspective, I'm a MA resident and have never thought our requirements unreasonable so in context thats "not more gun control then MA already has") but in the last year or two I've come around to thinking that this or a complete ban is needed.

I'm still sitting on Class A paperwork I've never gotten around to filing because I'm not going to get guns without a safe that I can't afford right now. I'd love to have an AR15 or similar when that happens but I'm more than willing to give that up to keep them out of the hands of most the idiot fucks in this country. The idea that they had a legitimate use outside being a cool toy went out the window for me when it became clear that the "overthrow the tyrant" types really are more interested in installing one.

How strict are they on safe requirements? Could you get away with a lockable Pelican case and replacing your closet door knob with a deadbolt? Do you need to show MA a receipt that you bought a safe or some poo poo?

And Mini-14s/30s can be classified as assault weapons, depending on the qualifications. The old AWB, it was as easy as swapping the stock to anything with a pistol grip, a 30rd mag and a muzzle device. You could do two things to it, a third would've made it an assault weapon. I had a ban era mini-14 ranch. They're known for having poo poo barrels. Don't buy one from the 90s.

# ? Aug 16, 2019 00:05

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

https://twitter.com/ColsBols/status/1162098329481691138

# ? Aug 16, 2019 00:05

Nick Soapdish: Apr 27, 2008

Fallom posted:

My CCW class in Virginia was taught by a 400-pounder wearing BDUs who spent most of it ranting about Obama and wishing he could use castle doctrine to justify killing "looters"

The other instructors acted visibly pissed whenever they had to show students how to load the range's busted-rear end assortment of handguns.

Happy to hear all those MAs who got kicked out during the Perform to Serve era found work

# ? Aug 16, 2019 00:09

Chichevache: Feb 17, 2010; One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Hot Karl Marx posted:

https://twitter.com/ColsBols/status/1162098329481691138

Lmao, its gross, but you can't blame the jail for that. They're not allowed to deny him his legal representation. That's just the rich taking advantage of rules that are in place for everyone's benefits.

# ? Aug 16, 2019 00:13

Jarmak: Jan 24, 2005

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

How strict are they on safe requirements? Could you get away with a lockable Pelican case and replacing your closet door knob with a deadbolt? Do you need to show MA a receipt that you bought a safe or some poo poo?

And Mini-14s/30s can be classified as assault weapons, depending on the qualifications. The old AWB, it was as easy as swapping the stock to anything with a pistol grip, a 30rd mag and a muzzle device. You could do two things to it, a third would've made it an assault weapon. I had a ban era mini-14 ranch. They're known for having poo poo barrels. Don't buy one from the 90s.

MA only requires trigger locks unless something has changed in the last year, my statement about the safe is my personal requirement for having a weapon in my house not a legal one. I'm not going to buy one of I don't have the means to store it in a responsible manner.

Semi-relatedly I'm sure I'm not the only one to think of it but I've always thought it might be interesting to make gun ownership a strict-liability issue. For those not familiar it's a legal doctrine originating from blasting. Instead of having to show negligence the activity is considered so inherently dangerous that doing it necessarily puts others at risk thus it's your responsibility to ensure no one is hurt/property damaged.

Basically "if something happens you're liable because you created the dangerous situation so it's your affirmative responsibility to make sure nothing happens, no negligence needs to be shown". In the case of guns it would mean a gun owner would be responsible for whatever their gun does, even if it's stolen.

# ? Aug 16, 2019 00:28

Flying_Crab: Apr 12, 2002

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Just make them NFA Title II weapons, bam, done.

This is the sensible answer. I'd be fine with it, legal but much harder to purchase.

# ? Aug 16, 2019 00:32

Flying_Crab: Apr 12, 2002

Fallom posted:

My CCW class in Virginia was taught by a 400-pounder wearing BDUs who spent most of it ranting about Obama and wishing he could use castle doctrine to justify killing "looters"

The other instructors acted visibly pissed whenever they had to show students how to load the range's busted-rear end assortment of handguns.

My WI CCW was done all through the mail with no training because DD214 (it shouldn't be that easy) :saddowns:

# ? Aug 16, 2019 00:35

Arven: Sep 23, 2007

In PA you pay your local sheriff 15$, pinky swear you don't have a criminal record, write down three character references that they don't call, and walk out with a license. Takes 10 minutes.

# ? Aug 16, 2019 00:41

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Wasabi the J posted:

There is absolutely a loving fix by fox. They're trying to scare Republican voters.

I've been telling people for years that they celebrate mass shooting because it's their gotv. They're loving scum across the board

# ? Aug 16, 2019 00:45

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Jarmak posted:

MA only requires trigger locks unless something has changed in the last year, my statement about the safe is my personal requirement for having a weapon in my house not a legal one. I'm not going to buy one of I don't have the means to store it in a responsible manner.

Semi-relatedly I'm sure I'm not the only one to think of it but I've always thought it might be interesting to make gun ownership a strict-liability issue. For those not familiar it's a legal doctrine originating from blasting. Instead of having to show negligence the activity is considered so inherently dangerous that doing it necessarily puts others at risk thus it's your responsibility to ensure no one is hurt/property damaged.

Ah, okay. I get why you'd go that route. Especially if you have kids running around. My rifle and revolver are locked in a long rear end pelican case (because a 26" barrel is like swinging a telephone pole), hidden behind poo poo. No kids to worry about here though, the animals don't care.

I agree on your point about liability, and there's probably already insurance for that purpose, outside of USCCAs' murder insurance.

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Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

That Nobel Prize is all but in hand.

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