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Aesis
Oct 9, 2012
Filthy J4G
2 devs (1 server, 1 web) are leaving after next week, after joining the company on January this year :v: Some people were bit worried when the accusation on me happened in June, then amid Planning and/or Marketing being total jerks (the usual 'I don't want to work with X from Dev team any more' bullshit), those two started looking as soon as they found out that the company was trying to get rid of me. Nothing but best wishes for them.

This is just the start of hilarity to ensue.

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tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
what the gently caress my pc just blue screened and had to be rebooted and i lost a lot of work what is this 19 loving 99

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!

tactlessbastard posted:

what the gently caress my pc just blue screened and had to be rebooted and i lost a lot of work what is this 19 loving 99

WinDbg brah

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

tactlessbastard posted:

what the gently caress my pc just blue screened and had to be rebooted and i lost a lot of work what is this 19 loving 99

Looks like you should have done a clean install :smug:

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

cage-free egghead posted:

Looks like you should have done a clean install :smug:

lol it's my work laptop, only thing on it is office 365 and chrome

klosterdev posted:

WinDbg brah

I just ran that and it says....my mother is a whore?

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!

quote:

I just ran that and it says....my mother is a whore?

Could've told you that last week

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Could have told you that two weeks ago.

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011

All hail the queen!
Lol everything is hopelessly broken once again after rushed out fixes for the original rushed out release. Look how shocked I am :downs:

"Everyone clear all of your meetings for today." Sorry, I'm leaving at 3; this isn't work-related, I have a faculty reception to attend and can't bail on (girlfriend's first full professor position, not missing that poo poo), it's been on the calendar for a month.

DELETE CASCADE
Oct 25, 2017

i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003

Thanks Ants posted:

I'll eat lunch in the office if the company is ordering in, but I'll also leave the office for an hour to have my lunch break when I'm done

oh good i'm not the only one who does this

Ratmtattat
Mar 10, 2004
the hairdryer

I'm ok with shutting off the a/c during the summer to help the power grid if it's like for an hour. This 4 hours bullshit during the hottest, most humid time of the year is the worst. We can leave if we get "uncomfortable" and you can be absolutely certain I'm right at the point of not being comfortable already.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Ratmtattat posted:

I'm ok with shutting off the a/c during the summer to help the power grid if it's like for an hour. This 4 hours bullshit during the hottest, most humid time of the year is the worst. We can leave if we get "uncomfortable" and you can be absolutely certain I'm right at the point of not being comfortable already.

At the time you turn it off I am instantly uncomfortable.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
I'm uncomfortable at the thought of you not having AC.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

Ratmtattat posted:

I'm ok with shutting off the a/c during the summer to help the power grid if it's like for an hour. This 4 hours bullshit during the hottest, most humid time of the year is the worst. We can leave if we get "uncomfortable" and you can be absolutely certain I'm right at the point of not being comfortable already.

What the hell are you still doing there?

LampkinsMateSteve
Jan 1, 2005

I've really fucked it. Have I fucked it?

Aesis posted:

This is just the start of hilarity to ensue.
Working in the socialist paradise of Northern Europe, reading this thread makes me feel so bad for my Northern American brothers and sisters. But your stories are on a whole 'nother level. :negative:

Aesis
Oct 9, 2012
Filthy J4G

LampkinsMateSteve posted:

Working in the socialist paradise of Northern Europe, reading this thread makes me feel so bad for my Northern American brothers and sisters. But your stories are on a whole 'nother level. :negative:

It's because the whole mindset is that 'devs can be replaced easily'. It would be true for mega corps or major IT companies where they have everyone working as cogwheel to prevent dependency on key people, but small firms thinking like this is a joke when they usually rely on handful of (key) people to develop and maintain services. But devs with experience don't generally apply to small firms as they want to settle down somewhere (job security, wage, etc), so it's not like devs in small firms can be replaced easily. And the shunning of techs/engineers/scientists stem from last dynasty (before Japanese occupation) in which they were eager to only embrace old teachings from China (Song, Ming dynasty) in order to prevent 'lower classes' from rising in power.

CollegeCop
Jul 11, 2005

You're right. I'm not a real cop. Those are imaginary handcuffs. And in a minute, we'll be going to the make-believe jail.

tactlessbastard posted:

what the gently caress my pc just blue screened and had to be rebooted and i lost a lot of work what is this 19 loving 99

Company ordered a bunch of new laptops with SSD upgrades. Some of the SSDs were from a faulty batch, and would cause BSOD with our custom build of Win10.

Apparently, the fault was not with all SSDs from the batch, or even with sequential serial numbers. Just totally random.

The only fix (aside from replacing every SSD from that order of laptops) was to wait for your machine to BSOD with a specific stop code and put in a ticket for a drive replacement.

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.
Friday was my supervisor's last day. He'd only been working here for 8 months. He's my 3rd or 4th supervisor since I've been here. There was a huge meeting on Monday in which he laid out all the problems with our Infrastructure, not the least that we never got any time to actually maintain it, and the few hours we did work on Infrastructure was to fix it after it crashed and took down the entire network. Each crashed exposed a litany of issues that needed to be addressed, but all we were able to accomplish was slapping on a band-aid.

Business director was incredibly alarmed by this, as it seemed his subordinate managers had been hiding the state of things from him and completely disregarding his instructions about the Infrastructure team. When my supervisor handed in his notice the business director started things off by having a one-on-one meeting with folks. He hadn't realized that we'd been begging for more personnel for probably 6 months now and his subordinate (supervisor's boss) kept turning down candidates despite a job posting for the positions. Then the subordinate denied the request for training, despite that being the number one priority for our group per the business director, citing the expense. The business director had set aside $150k for us to do training, but it was untouched because we could never get approval.

Friday the business director came to my office for a one-on-one and informed me that I was now 100% assigned to stabilizing the infrastructure and performing all needed maintenance and updates. My co-worker would be working 100% on our major contract, as well as our engineer. We have one more co-worker, but he's also 100% on another contract. So basically it's all on me now until we get a new supervisor hired, sometime in the next 60 days. I suppose I should feel like I'm getting screwed, but I'm actually pretty loving excited to finally have the chains removed and get a chance to implement a bunch of things I've been wanting to do. If I can pull our infrastructure out of the nose dive it's currently in I will be sitting pretty. Business director told me that whatever training, tools or equipment I needed I could have and to let him know.

It's probably bullshit, but I like my job, I like my work, I don't mind the empty promises because they don't actually materially affect me. Pay is good. Benefits are even better. Even if everything turns to poo poo I won't be splashed by it, so I'm going to ride things out and see where it takes me.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


the single minded focus of "well, poo poo, you're on X problem that you've always wanted to fix" feels exciting until a week later, "you haven't continued doing Y or Z, why?"

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

me last week: "ok we're doing an upgrade for this system, it has ugly hacks to keep ancient code running that's causing errors on the new install. Can we talk about whether to support this or not?"

everyone: "we'll talk in the next group meeting"

co-worker this morning: "I fixed the errors."

everyone: "awesome!!"

me: :geno:

Super, let's just keep this poo poo running for eternity.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Goddamn I loving hate the CO job market. Too many goddamn candidates, it’s impossible to get a developer job without a BS.

“Just make projects and put them on github”

gently caress you, I have. HR would still rather hire one of the thousands of fresh grads from CSU or CU every year, or one of the thousands of people that want to move to CO.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Goddamn I loving hate the CO job market. Too many goddamn candidates, it’s impossible to get a developer job without a BS.

“Just make projects and put them on github”

gently caress you, I have. HR would still rather hire one of the thousands of fresh grads from CSU or CU every year, or one of the thousands of people that want to move to CO.

Then find a job one of the MANY other areas that hiring devs or get a BS.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I’m in the middle of a divorce and extremely emotionally unstable otherwise I would have moved already. And I can’t get a BS until I pay back the money I owe to CSU because the last year I was there my mother apparently expected me to fill out the FAFSA when she had done it in the past (also when you’re under 25 it’s like 90% your parents’ information) so the college never got paid for my last semester. Which means they are holding my transcripts hostage. And my AS is worth the paper it’s printed on.

I guess I could try to get a job in Wyoming, but that would be like a $10k pay cut from my lovely call center job, 20k from what I was making doing ERP support.

I really need to get out of this job, I don’t drink much at all but when I’m starting to consider drinking a couple beers on lunch to get through the afternoon I think that’s a bad sign.

22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Aug 19, 2019

MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE



This server is currently running Sage 50 2019 with the most recent patch. It won't let me upgrade to 2020, and gives no indication as to why. The system requirements are virtually the same as before, just with more RAM:

https://support.na.sage.com/selfservice/viewdocument.do?noCount=true&externalId=91436
https://support.na.sage.com/selfservice/viewdocument.do?noCount=true&externalId=97578

Digging around more, I find these two articles explaining that the database management framework is changing for this new 2020 release:

https://www.sagecity.com/support_co...020-0-july-2019
https://sage50accountingpro.com.ng/sage-50-u-s-edition-2020-to-be-released-in-july2019/

quote:

Why Upgrade to Actian Zen?

Actian Zen v13 better supports Windows 10 and offers better Windows 10 compatibility. An upgrade is necessary in order to receive the updated maintenance that Actian zen has developed into v13.

In addition, the updated version of Actian zen offers improvements to installation which should result in fewer Actian and Sage 50 installation issues.

With this upgrade, it is certain we will have fewer activation and re-activation issues.

Pretty sure this client doesn't have a support plan with Sage, so this ought to be fun. If anybody's got ideas, I'd love some suggestions.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
Are you running the file that would have been sent from Sage via email with a download link? Beyond that I'd wonder if this needs the old version completely removed before installing the new one. Sage is a wonderfully picky piece of poo poo and I wish you the best of luck with your endeavor.

e: I'm remembering something stupid about Peachtree, but only that it exists. If I suddenly recall exactly what's nagging at my brain I'll let you know.

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011

All hail the queen!
It's incredible how much my stress levels have plummeted over the past week. New boss is overly excited and is coordinating creating my accounts and ordering me a laptop and stuff already (still got 2 weeks until my start date). I'm actually really excited to start, I actually really love diving into a fresh repo and trying to figure it out.

I have nothing to do this week but squash this last treatment plan viewer bug :dance:

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

Daylen Drazzi posted:

If I can pull our infrastructure out of the nose dive it's currently in I will be sitting pretty. Business director told me that whatever training, tools or equipment I needed I could have and to let him know.

It's probably bullshit, but I like my job, I like my work, I don't mind the empty promises because they don't actually materially affect me. Pay is good. Benefits are even better.

Get that raise!

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
My boss' boss just pulled everyone's work from home until further notice with no warning.

I don't even work from home, but goddamn is that a good sign that my instinct to try to get out ASAP was a good one.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Clearly your boss' boss is just a visionary who wants your company to benefit from the same sort of improvements that Yahoo! realised

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Thanatosian posted:

My boss' boss just pulled everyone's work from home until further notice with no warning.

I don't even work from home, but goddamn is that a good sign that my instinct to try to get out ASAP was a good one.

My new boss told his boss to leave us alone after I told him about the "core hours" stunt he'd tried to pull on me.
(Yes, we have core hours in our contract, no - we've never followed them - we are engineers who often work odd hours because of customer requirements, so if I feel like coming in at 10, I will loving come in at 10, and my new boss is fully onboard with that line of thinking).

Ditto for WFH. As long as my team can reach me and/or knows where I am, I can do whatever the gently caress I want.
Now as soon as I can get rid of this loving horrible project we're finishing up, things might actually look up.

Burnout is real people, by the time you realize that it's a problem - you're usually too far gone. This feeling of "this isn't going to well, but I can't muster the fucks to care" is worrying, I haven't been at that mental place in probably a decade (last few weeks of my 4 year hitch in the navy). I "only" spent 4 months recuperating from that particular shitshow. gently caress.

E: Holy poo poo, I've been out of the navy for a decade. How the gently caress did that happen? 2009 isn't that long ago!

Wibla fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Aug 20, 2019

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Wibla posted:

E: Holy poo poo, I've been out of the navy for a decade. How the gently caress did that happen? 2009 isn't that long ago!

Yes it was, sadly(?)

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Wibla posted:

My new boss told his boss to leave us alone after I told him about the "core hours" stunt he'd tried to pull on me.
(Yes, we have core hours in our contract, no - we've never followed them - we are engineers who often work odd hours because of customer requirements, so if I feel like coming in at 10, I will loving come in at 10, and my new boss is fully onboard with that line of thinking).

Ditto for WFH. As long as my team can reach me and/or knows where I am, I can do whatever the gently caress I want.
Now as soon as I can get rid of this loving horrible project we're finishing up, things might actually look up.

Burnout is real people, by the time you realize that it's a problem - you're usually too far gone. This feeling of "this isn't going to well, but I can't muster the fucks to care" is worrying, I haven't been at that mental place in probably a decade (last few weeks of my 4 year hitch in the navy). I "only" spent 4 months recuperating from that particular shitshow. gently caress.

E: Holy poo poo, I've been out of the navy for a decade. How the gently caress did that happen? 2009 isn't that long ago!

In 1.5 years, people born in 2000 will legally be able to drink. :v:

CollegeCop
Jul 11, 2005

You're right. I'm not a real cop. Those are imaginary handcuffs. And in a minute, we'll be going to the make-believe jail.

Wibla posted:


Burnout is real people, by the time you realize that it's a problem - you're usually too far gone. This feeling of "this isn't going to well, but I can't muster the fucks to care" is worrying,


+1 on this right here.

A little over a year ago, I was so far gone that it took almost getting fired to convince me to finally go to the doctor and get some help. It took quitting my old job, getting on anti-depressants, and sleeping all day for two months to climb out of that hole.

It's been a rough year, but I can honesty say I am happy now - for the first time in a very long time.

TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES!!!!!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


ratbert90 posted:

In 1.5 years, people born in 2000 will legally be able to drink. :v:

In Australia they already are legal and holy poo poo going out to a pub/club is painful now.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

CollegeCop posted:

+1 on this right here.

A little over a year ago, I was so far gone that it took almost getting fired to convince me to finally go to the doctor and get some help. It took quitting my old job, getting on anti-depressants, and sleeping all day for two months to climb out of that hole.

It's been a rough year, but I can honesty say I am happy now - for the first time in a very long time.

TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES!!!!!

Following up on my previous post, my work performance is slipping, I'm giving less fucks about things I definitely shouldn't stop caring about... which affects how I feel, which then affects my (already not so great) sleep pattern... etc. It's an evil circle.

The feeling of defeat goes bone deep.

Probably about time to get a doctor's appointment...

Weird thing is my resting heart rate is still 57, and the 'stress meter' thing on my phone shows me as being all the way over in the green. Subconsciously checked out, I guess? (I'm not a physician, I have no loving idea how it works). Haven't checked my blood pressure in a while, but I've been on blood pressure medication for several years. yay.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
Your phone is not a tricorder. Go to the doctor.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

tactlessbastard posted:

Your phone is not a tricorder. Go to the doctor.

:cripes:

Yeah no poo poo. Booking an appointment tomorrow.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Wibla posted:

Following up on my previous post, my work performance is slipping, I'm giving less fucks about things I definitely shouldn't stop caring about... which affects how I feel, which then affects my (already not so great) sleep pattern... etc. It's an evil circle.

The feeling of defeat goes bone deep.

Probably about time to get a doctor's appointment...

Weird thing is my resting heart rate is still 57, and the 'stress meter' thing on my phone shows me as being all the way over in the green. Subconsciously checked out, I guess? (I'm not a physician, I have no loving idea how it works). Haven't checked my blood pressure in a while, but I've been on blood pressure medication for several years. yay.


Start some light exercise. Do a couch to 5k from a phone app or anything else. If you are in no-fucks-ville, spend your work time doing something you enjoy like reading SA or a book or something.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

Wibla posted:


Burnout is real people, by the time you realize that it's a problem - you're usually too far gone. This feeling of "this isn't going to well, but I can't muster the fucks to care" is worrying, I haven't been at that mental place in probably a decade (last few weeks of my 4 year hitch in the navy). I "only" spent 4 months recuperating from that particular shitshow. gently caress.

This.

A few months ago I hit a low at my current gig due to A combination of high turnover, doubt, and general confusion.

I was so spun up that I didn’t realize that I was spun up anymore.

It took hiking for three weeks in mountains that are half a billion years old to appreciate that nothing really matters except one’s own sanity and nothing is worth paying that price.

I came home from that trip with a fresh new outlook and a reminder to not sweat the small stuff and that everything is, in fact, small stuff.

The Macaroni
Dec 20, 2002
...it does nothing.
The weeks before I gave notice at my previous job are a terrible blur. I remember flashes of panic attacks, anxiety, and trying to plan financially for just being out of work. Fortunately offers came in really quickly and I was able to escape just as things were really looking dark.

That said, I'm getting mighty frustrated in my current role. After 2.5 weeks of zero communication, my boss emails me today and says (very politely) that the last project he asked for wasn't what the stakeholder wanted. Totally cool and I'm happy to fix anything, but I can't do that without feedback about where to go. Working here has felt like that whiskey commercial scene from "Lost in Translation"--"OK, so Mike wanted something different. Was that all he said? Really? What does he actually want?"

I talked with a coworker about this and he said, "Once they flew me out to California to correct some accounting issues. I went out there, wrote up a big list of things they needed to fix, sent to to the boss. They never fixed anything, never asked me about it, and never brought it up again. Just keep your head down and don't worry." But that guy actually has some daily work and I often don't. Guess I'll keep collecting paychecks until something changes.

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Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Sickening posted:

Start some light exercise. Do a couch to 5k from a phone app or anything else. If you are in no-fucks-ville, spend your work time doing something you enjoy like reading SA or a book or something.

I've been meaning to take my bike out of storage again. I parked it and gave up on a bunch of poo poo like an idiot after I busted my knee a couple of years ago.

Will have to make some phonecalls tomorrow...

Touching back on what I initially wrote... about being too far gone: My 3 weeks of summer vacation really nailed that home for me. I've been feeling progressively worse ever since I got back from vacation, despite having a new boss who's trying his level best to make things better for everyone in the office. gently caress.

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