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explosivo posted:Thanks for the help, I do have some infinity upgrades already purchased, I was able to save up 2e7 IP with enough time so I have the first 3 of the two columns purchased already. I think I have to separate myself from thinking that faster runs = better gains. I guess I'm not even really positive what it is I'm doing that makes the IP go up and why longer runs would make that happen. There are some elements of the game that will click on you at some point but are terribly explained - and frankly, very obtuse. That means your dimboosts will happen as soon as they're available. The limiter will be how many galaxies you can reach right now; If you chose 10 galaxies but you can't reach that number, the autobuyer won't Dimboost and you'll get stuck. Take the autobuyer recommendations from the wiki with a grain of salt, they're mostly a point of reference than a rule; Tune more or fewer galaxies or slower or faster crunches depending on your current settings.
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Great, thanks to the both of you! I think I'll start futzing with length of runs and see where that gets me.
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pixaal posted:That's how a lot of idle games are, devs with h a vision and a small community with a few gently caress you got mine people being in control. It's fine, you just reset every five minutes until you get to a couple million prestige points and then you start researching new things.
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comingafteryouall posted:I'm running NGU in chrome and it seems like it's running significantly worse since the last update. Anyone else experience this or should I be poking around on my computer to solve the problem? I've noticed this the last two days, but I wasn't sure if it's because I had NGU on a 2nd screen while also playing TI on twitch while I played a videogame on my main screen.
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comingafteryouall posted:I'm running NGU in chrome and it seems like it's running significantly worse since the last update. Anyone else experience this or should I be poking around on my computer to solve the problem? It runs way better in Kartridge if that's an option for you.
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# ? Aug 16, 2019 20:02 |
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Anyone playing Incremental Adventures? It's pretty simple (and very handsoff) but fun.
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# ? Aug 16, 2019 22:54 |
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Whatever happened to that game that was getting made with goon playtesting in the old thread, the one that had ideas similar to Path of Exile?
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KazigluBey posted:Whatever happened to that game that was getting made with goon playtesting in the old thread, the one that had ideas similar to Path of Exile? Pepper! And I don't know.
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GrossMurpel posted:Anyone playing Incremental Adventures? It's pretty simple (and very handsoff) but fun. I am, and well... it's okay. More than a little jank hurts the experience for me. I appreciate that the dev is very active, because it's going to need a fair bit of work to get solid.
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I'm giving it a try right now, got a little stumped but since enemies don't have armor - yet at least - I'm running a stacked Warrior and a Cleric and seeing how that goes.
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I don't believe enemies get armor, but the scaling ensures they don't need it. Shield warrior and cleric work well enough to get you to 16, but you'll get prestige before you reach 20. e: ah yeah, word of warning - if you get to level 2 prestige, it resets level 1 prestige buys along with the other stuff level 1 prestige resets. So be a little a careful about prestiging when the game alerts you that you will earn some higher-level prestige soon. Ignatius M. Meen fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Aug 17, 2019 |
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Samuringa posted:I'm giving it a try right now, got a little stumped but since enemies don't have armor - yet at least - I'm running a stacked Warrior and a Cleric and seeing how that goes. That went terribly, balanced build it is. Ignatius M. Meen posted:I don't believe enemies get armor, but the scaling ensures they don't need it. Shield warrior and cleric work well enough to get you to 16, but you'll get prestige before you reach 20. cheers
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SynthesisAlpha posted:Pepper! And I don't know. I don't know! He disappeared off the discord we were using to collaborate and I haven't heard from him in months
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Captain Foo posted:I don't know! He disappeared off the discord we were using to collaborate and I haven't heard from him in months RIP your identity
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Samuringa posted:That went terribly, balanced build it is. I've been running a hp tank/healer at the front and pure DPS behind them. You dont get quite as far per run but I think the per-hour xp is better.
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pelao posted:I've been running a hp tank/healer at the front and pure DPS behind them. You dont get quite as far per run but I think the per-hour xp is better. Yeah for pure XP/hour, you're best off splitting both of your heroes between HP and damage. Then once you get 3 heroes, you should go full HP/full damage/full healing. That ensures you get to higher floors which is where the big XP are (especially once you start getting XP prestige upgrades). Also, something that wasn't immediately obvious to me is that the enemies operate exactly like your guys, i.e. you only need one tank at the very front and they will never attack anyone else until he dies. Ignatius M. Meen posted:I don't believe enemies get armor, but the scaling ensures they don't need it. Shield warrior and cleric work well enough to get you to 16, but you'll get prestige before you reach 20. Yeah when you get your first prestige of a layer always go for x2 XP to speed up the next prestige. Oh also, in some patch (that happened before I started playing) the dev said he made armor 5 times as strong and it's STILL useless. Ignatius M. Meen posted:I am, and well... it's okay. More than a little jank hurts the experience for me. I appreciate that the dev is very active, because it's going to need a fair bit of work to get solid. Yeah like I said it's very simple, but I like that. Probably won't hold my attention for months like the big idlers GrossMurpel fucked around with this message at 10:10 on Aug 17, 2019 |
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Captain Foo posted:I don't know! He disappeared off the discord we were using to collaborate and I haven't heard from him in months Sad to hear, game had a lot of potential
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Oh poo poo the antid poo poo works on soldiers? That was the easiest unification of my life E: boy I'm glad my life took me to the place where that sentence is a thing I said
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Antid are great. Antid with Ent-Fanaticism are great with an utterly ridiculous amount of stone once they get going. But Imps with Antid-Fanaticism?
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did anyone figure out what the ??? evolve update was
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:e: ah yeah, word of warning - if you get to You got me super-worried about that, but it's a totally normal thing for idle games. You do a whole bunch of Layer 1 prestiges and build up bonuses. Eventually you can't progress further. You hit the "layer 2" button and it sets you back to zero, but with some bonus. Again, completely normal for an idle game. You do a whole bunch of Layer 2 prestiges and build up bonuses. Eventually you can't progress further. Repeat. E: "max floor" sticks between layers of prestiges. Not sure if I like that. Maybe it should reset? Maybe it should show both the max and the max this layer? Dev is active, we could shape it. MisterOblivious fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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Aurora posted:did anyone figure out what the ??? evolve update was Wild guess: it might be related to the demons equivalent of hell-invasions? Will check next time I go hellworld.
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explosivo posted:Thanks for the help, I do have some infinity upgrades already purchased, I was able to save up 2e7 IP with enough time so I have the first 3 of the two columns purchased already. I think I have to separate myself from thinking that faster runs = better gains. I guess I'm not even really positive what it is I'm doing that makes the IP go up and why longer runs would make that happen. Slightly longer runs may have a higher peak IP/min which will affect the upgrades that care about it since it'll be doing a bit of the heavy lifting in your IP growth when idle. Just let it run and then set your Auto Crunch to just under whatever IP it is that your peak IP/min reaches.
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MisterOblivious posted:You got me super-worried about that, but it's a totally normal thing for idle games. The max floor doesn't matter for anything except unlocks, why do you care what the max you reached since prestige is?
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They werent kidding about the EXILE secret drop being rare. 3 weeks in and it has dropped 3 times. I combined 2 of them and put the first one i got into daycare. This one has gained 7 levels from Money Pit and 5 levels from daycare. Its not even all that good, compared to the rarity. (its pretty good but not "it takes 3 months to max this item"-good). Maybe i should start wearing it so i get it leveled up from both the money pit leveling features.
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It's worth wearing at level 1. It's a huge speed boost to the two things you should be most limited on right now.
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# ? Aug 18, 2019 12:28 |
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Aurora posted:did anyone figure out what the ??? evolve update was A couple more achievements. One for taking the genetically challenged race all the way to bioseed and another to bioseeding from a hellworld using a non-hell race.
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I need to kill the priest again in NGU, but Exile is already unlocked. Does anyone know where I can find him?
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Two good changes to IA, healers now heal instead of attack when the damage output of the enemy team outpaces their healing (so your tank doesn't eat poo poo in two rounds and your party might last an extra floor), and a new prestige unlock lets your team skip floors if their damage is some amount greater than the enemy team's health. Also since it was mentioned I found that my admittedly very old save data for Idle Kingdom Clicker was not saved to the cloud so I have to start from scratch. Am I just going to have to grind to the bone if I want to get anywhere new or is it still possible to find the prestige multiplier temples if I have enough food?
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I just did the Genetic Disaster Challenge in Evolve. It was a bitch. You only need to get up to MAD, but it's a bit of a slog, even with 800 plasmid and 100 phage. I had 75% of my people growing food for most of the run, and still managed to get the 'starve 100 people' achievement. On the upside, it counts as gold star for achievements and unlocks a special perk, which I think is 'Bonus to knowledge cap and gain' which starts you off with 1000 knowledge cap and about 6 knowledge/sec. This makes the early hour of the game a lot less annoying.
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frankenbeans posted:I just did the Genetic Disaster Challenge in Evolve. It was a bitch. You only need to get up to MAD, but it's a bit of a slog, even with 800 plasmid and 100 phage. I had 75% of my people growing food for most of the run, and still managed to get the 'starve 100 people' achievement. Well, part of the reason it's a bitch is because it automatically includes No Plasmids!
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Sage Grimm posted:A couple more achievements. One for taking the genetically challenged race all the way to bioseed and another to bioseeding from a hellworld using a non-hell race. It also added a special challenge called Joyless, which disables Amphitheatres and Casinos. Build a biodome on Mars to get an achievement that counts double for mastery. This document is being maintained and has been very helpful.
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Two good changes to IA, healers now heal instead of attack when the damage output of the enemy team outpaces their healing (so your tank doesn't eat poo poo in two rounds and your party might last an extra floor), and a new prestige unlock lets your team skip floors if their damage is some amount greater than the enemy team's health. Those are neat, though to be honest I've found the healer AI to be fine since the patch before that one. They always heal if your tank is below 75% or something like that and it's a tiny edge case that your team will happen to survive an extra floor just because your healers always heal now.
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IA: I did a quick and dirty time test from prestige of HP tank + healer + 3 DPS vs armour tank + 4 DPS and the armour tank came out significantly ahead. It was only a short 10 minute test, but for farming level 1 prestige points (PP1?) I think it's the way to go, given the autobuyers prestige you so often.
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pelao posted:IA: What about 1 HP tank, 2 DPS, 2 healers? Lets you get way further in floors. E: Also, what do those armor values look like compared to the tank HP? GrossMurpel fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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comingafteryouall posted:I'm running NGU in chrome and it seems like it's running significantly worse since the last update. Anyone else experience this or should I be poking around on my computer to solve the problem?
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# ? Aug 19, 2019 01:09 |
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GrossMurpel posted:What about 1 HP tank, 2 DPS, 2 healers? Lets you get way further in floors. 1 tank 2 healers 2 DPS doesnt get you any further, really, on the time scale I was testing. Since it was short runs (10-15 minutes) the negatives from lack of DPS far outweighs the extra tanking. I found it didnt really matter what you used as the tank - i tested pure HP, pure block, cleric mixes, and pally mixes, and at the 10 minute mark, they were all about level 1400-1500. The outright best test was a 200/80 cleric that got 1525 in 9:40 at the end of the 4th run. With 1 dedicated healer (HP or a 150/25 warrior) it was 1250-1300 at 10 minutes. 1600 at about 14 minutes, after the 3rd run. With 2 dedicated healers it was worse again, 1300 at 13 minutes after the 2nd run, 1650 at 18:40 after the 3rd run. I'm not doing repeated tests so the RNG does put in a decent margin of error. Single mob really punishes an armour build. I had all equal P1 stat upgrades, and all equal at 2 P2 stats except XP and Armor at level 3.
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GrossMurpel posted:The max floor doesn't matter for anything except unlocks, why do you care what the max you reached since prestige is? numbers, dude.
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i assume there's not a lot of new content in evolve once you do bioseeder, other than access to different races and the demon invasion stuff
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At the moment, that's about it. post bioseed it's more or less just cleaning up achievements for mastery points. After that, well. Feats for completing difficult tasks, and finding the best species combo to get to and through space quickly. (Imp with Antid Fanaticism, Cyclops Space-Fanaticism looks like a strong contender)
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