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Having lived through pretty much the entire life cycle of computer games I've been through several WOW moments, but in the modern age I think it was Unreal Tournament that first really blew me away. I remember watching a demo of the Morpheus level, and the animation, sound and lighting effects had my mouth hanging open. Phobos Moon with that crazy, erratic background... it felt like a whole new ballgame.
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Blood did that for me. That's on the Quake 2.5d engine so the graphics were nothing to write home about, but they did a good job of creating an unique environment. I recall being petrified in the train station level while a pay phone rang in the distance only to finally find it, pick up the receiver, and have someone prank me. A new version that's been 'enhanced' is now out. It's alright. Controls are just as clunky as any other1990's FPS and it's insanely difficult in the early levels when you have very limited weapons and ammo.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Blood did that for me. That's on the Quake 2.5d engine so the graphics were nothing to write home about, but they did a good job of creating an unique environment. I recall being petrified in the train station level while a pay phone rang in the distance only to finally find it, pick up the receiver, and have someone prank me. I've half a mind to try playing it with a Logitech F710 because I have the idiotic notion that it might actually be playable with a pad.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Blood did that for me. That's on the Quake 2.5d engine Build engine, same as Duke3D and Shadow Warrior.
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Aug 17, 2019 13:21
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Yeah uh wha? What did the Ion Fury devs do?
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I googled. Their official twitter account follows some gamergate people. Who gives a poo poo? That’s not worth a boycott.
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It's more than that. The lead developers posted transphobic and "anti-SJW" comments in their official Discord and the company's official Twitter spent the night doubling down and rallying chuds to defend them. After that people started digging into that accounts history and discovered not only the aforementioned gamergate follows but likes of tweets by Lauren Southern (who is a well-known alt-right grifter) promoting anti-LGBT 4chan conspiracy theories. There's more details in the IOSM thread and the now-closed Games thread for Ion Fury.
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Buttcoin purse posted:No way, well maybe that's the best you could get from a chain store or something, but I'm looking at PC Magazine from 24 Sep 1991 and you could get an ATI (I just picked a known brand) VGA Integra for $189 supporting 1024x768, even non-interlaced! I'm sure that by 1994 I had some kind of Tseng ET4000-based card that could do 1024x768 but in combination with my monitor I could only get interlaced. An ad later in the magazine has that card for only $129, apparently at 1024x768 it's only 16 colors (like my card was IIRC). The Macintosh Quadra 700 that came out in 1991 supported 1600x1200 at 8 bit color and 24 bit color at 1024x768 out of the box if you maxed the video memory. The Quadra 700 is what was used to design and render the game Myst.
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Well that sucks. gently caress 'em. So I had a summer PC build that reused a case from 2004. Moving as much as I can off old 2003 era drives to 2.5 Sata drives until I can get large storage in there. gently caress man, 3.5" IDE drives are heavy, noisy. And run hot.
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Aug 17, 2019 17:08
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DID SOMEONE SAY "IDE"?!
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Jabor posted:What's your feeling on the overall quality of the kit? Worth the price, or would you just buy the parts and follow the videos if you were doing it over again? The kit ships straight from Jameco, and I assume they assemble it for him. I guess you could just buy all the parts yourself but I figure it would be about the same price. I like that the kit was split up into the different modules so I don't have to look through a bunch of different ttl chips to find the one I need. And the included booklets have all the pinouts in one place and are easy to read so I'm not looking for datasheets.
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Toupee Groupie posted:The Macintosh Quadra 700 that came out in 1991 supported 1600x1200 at 8 bit color and 24 bit color at 1024x768 out of the box if you maxed the video memory. The Quadra 700 is what was used to design and render the game Myst. One of the last times I experienced legitimate awe while looking at a desktop computer were the Macintosh's at my college newspaper. I'd only used 9 inch Mac's before that so seeing one with a huge screen was a revelation. I thought those were Quadras, but looking back now they must have been Mac IIsi's because they were still monochrome and it was 1991. The screens looked massive to me, but in retrospect they were probably 17 inches and 800x600. Also they sucked rear end because Apple kept gimping the RAM in their computers. I didn't touch another Apple product until 2001.
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I guess I never really had any awe in respect to computers. I've been around them for most of my life and they just got better and better over time that I was never really surprised.
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Mafia 1 is what blew my mind. I never really thought computer games looked that much better until I saw that game and begged my mom for a new computer.
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Aug 17, 2019 19:05
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The only computer program worthy of being in awe of was Kid Pix. 
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Mr.Radar posted:It's more than that. The lead developers posted transphobic and "anti-SJW" comments in their official Discord and the company's official Twitter spent the night doubling down and rallying chuds to defend them. After that people started digging into that accounts history and discovered not only the aforementioned gamergate follows but likes of tweets by Lauren Southern (who is a well-known alt-right grifter) promoting anti-LGBT 4chan conspiracy theories. There's more details in the IOSM thread and the now-closed Games thread for Ion Fury. Well gently caress those guys. Glad I acquired it via other means.
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I'm only dazed by displays. Obviously that's because you can see them (versus a CPU upgrade) but also because I can never afford to have the latest/greatest so I spend years avoiding the newest screens to not feel inadequate and when I finally do upgrade it's a massive generational change. Like going from a 720p TV in 2018 to a 4k OLED.
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GutBomb posted:I googled. Their official twitter account follows some gamergate people. Who gives a poo poo? That’s not worth a boycott. 
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Empress Brosephine posted:Mafia 1 is what blew my mind. I never really thought computer games looked that much better until I saw that game and begged my mom for a new computer. Like you, most of my experiences have been pleasant, but not earth-shattering. But with two exceptions: 1993 Doom. Playing a level that was a tight maze in a basement with lots of the pink monsters hiding there. Turn the wrong corner and they'd rip your face off, so you needed to move cautiously. The hidden monsters would occasionally howl and I legit found myself scared of them and nervous.. It was a revelatory moment to be genuinely scared, in a blood-run cold way, by a computer game sound effect. Second time was upgrading from a ps2 on a poo poo CRT to a 360 with hdmi on a HD screen. Modern Warfare, sniper level. Watching the detail on the ghillie suit as each clump of fibres moved independently of the others, as a result of my moving the controls just blew my mind that such detail, better than LOTR on the big screen at the same time, could be generated on the fly.
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That was my first hard drive. Then we got another one. I've still got them and want to try getting the data off some day, although I think dad wiped them and put his stuff on them since I last used them so there's probably nothing of mine that I want on there now. I still have some save games from the mid '90s I'm hoping to find  I'm assuming I can't just hook them up to a USB dock because they're from before drives reported their geometry and I need to put it in a machine with a BIOS that lets me set the C/H/S as per the label? I'm assuming I'll want to do that in a machine where I don't care too much about the other drive either, or it's CF or SSD, because I'll probably need to turn the machine on and off over and over hoping that the drive eventually spins up  Krispy Wafer posted:One of the last times I experienced legitimate awe while looking at a desktop computer were the Macintosh's at my college newspaper. I'd only used 9 inch Mac's before that so seeing one with a huge screen was a revelation. I thought those were Quadras, but looking back now they must have been Mac IIsi's because they were still monochrome and it was 1991. Oh yeah, I remember being in awe the first time I saw some Macs. They had a big color display, one of those displays you could rotate to portrait and the machine knew you'd rotated it, and they had Microsoft QuickBasic for Macintosh which could make goddamned GUIs! I think at this point I hadn't seen Windows apart from the runtime version in Balance of Power. At most I'd had Windows for just a few months. I've had plenty of Dell monitors that could be rotated but then I have to go into display settings to deal with it. I suppose some fancy laptops probably deal well with being rotated just like tablets and phones do now, but have there been PC desktop monitors that do that?
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Buttcoin purse posted:I've had plenty of Dell monitors that could be rotated but then I have to go into display settings to deal with it. I suppose some fancy laptops probably deal well with being rotated just like tablets and phones do now, but have there been PC desktop monitors that do that? I don't think I've seen any monitors with that feature, but for a while now Windows has had hotkeys for screen rotation.
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KozmoNaut posted:I think my original "wow!" moment was Doom. It looked so lifelike and immersive, compared to the 2D games I played before it. The DS’s 3D graphics wowed me.
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Toast Museum posted:I don't think I've seen any monitors with that feature, but for a while now Windows has had hotkeys for screen rotation. It's also a great prank to people in the office cos most people don't know the way to fix it. I got my manager well simply swapping the N and M keys the other day. He is a hunt and peck typer and the few minutes watching him in frustration was bliss.
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Buttcoin purse posted:That was my first hard drive. Then we got another one. I've still got them and want to try getting the data off some day, although I think dad wiped them and put his stuff on them since I last used them so there's probably nothing of mine that I want on there now. I still have some save games from the mid '90s I'm hoping to find I have about a dozen of these same exact drives, and I just slapped them into a system that could take IDE. That is, I kept an older Dell around that had both IDE and SATA connections for the purposes of testing. Nowdays, I have this external dock that has plugs for IDE, SATA, the old Laptop size and can take a whole bunch of the various different kind of memory cards. I was going to do full scans on each, ebay the good ones, then take the bad ones apart. Aluminum shell, cool platters and the magnets in the older drivers are stronger than later ones.
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the first time i put on an htc vive was like my "holy poo poo" moment. im not old enough to have seen the first 3d, but ive had people compare their first time playing a full 3d game like super mario 64 to using vr for the first time
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my first time seeing 3D graphics was probably, like, that one endless maze screensaver from ages ago which blew my tiny mind at the time (and which still fuckin rules imo) my first time navigating a 3D digital environment was an N64 demo kiosk running Ocarina of Time, and I mostly remember being utter pants at it and frustrating myself as Link wildly overcorrected in every direction but the one I wanted
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Kings Quest games where you're trying to climb a spiral staircase in a modified 3d environment, but you can only see things in 2d in real fun I tell you what. Somewhere Roberta Williams is sitting on her yacht and laughing at my expense.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Kings Quest games where you're trying to climb a spiral staircase in a modified 3d environment, but you can only see things in 2d in real fun I tell you what. I never got far enough for that poo poo. I always forgot to pick up the two-pixel wide mustard fart on the second screen and then died later on when I needed it and had already overwritten my save. Do you guys remember Sierra hint books? They had a sheet of red gel you looked through to read a walkthrough of Space Quest IV or whatever? The internet shut that stuff right down I tells ya.
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Explosionface posted:The only computer program worthy of being in awe of was Kid Pix. I will never be satisfied until Adobe/Serif/whoever add a dynamite feature.
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Tall Tale Teller posted:I never got far enough for that poo poo. I thought they used the highlighters that revealed each hint as you needed them? You had to find a particular word in the manual for DRM so I typed out that poo poo and uploaded it to the local BBS. I'm trying to recall now how long it took me to upload each Kings Quest disk over dial-up and that must have taken all night.
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Even better was trying to crack copy protection codes without the manual on hand after borrowing a game. Prince of Persia's Russian Roulette letter potion room was fun. The sequel at least had the symbols in page order so you could just count them to get past easily. But stuff relying on feelies (like red cellophane reveals) to get past a certain area usually was fatal short of a lucky guess. I think one of the Trek games needed you to know coordinates out of the manual, else dump you into a impossible battle.
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Explosionface posted:The only computer program worthy of being in awe of was Kid Pix. (applauds in Mac). Speaking of which, in (it must have been, I think?) late '82-early '83 my husband and a group of other computer engineers flew out to evaluate the nascent Mac for adoption as the standard campus computer. They came back looking like they'd seen God. My husband couldn't/wouldn't tell me why until a good while later. I think at that time one person on campus had been to Xerox Parc and seen the original OS. So they came home, the administration committed to the project, and my husband spent the next couple of years cross-developing on a Lisa, which ran like a pig. It was worth it.
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Krispy Wafer posted:I thought they used the highlighters that revealed each hint as you needed them? [this space intentionally left blank]
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And the best piece of copy protection ever. THE DIAL-A-PIRATE.
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The Sims 2 for me. My family's computer could only run Sims 1 until we either updated to a Pentium 4 or replaced our Pentium 4 with something else. Combined with a new graphics card, I got to see the Sims... in 3D~~! Blew my tiny nerd brain to hell and back, and then I made all my sims get hosed by aliens
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Tall Tale Teller posted:And the best piece of copy protection ever. THE DIAL-A-PIRATE. And the worst: Lenslok - squint through a folding plastic lens held against your TV to turn some distorted gibberish into a code you have to enter. Does not work if your TV is substantially bigger or smaller that the developer's. Or if you don't follow the incredibly vague instructions exactly. Or if the publisher put the lens for the wrong game in the box. Also to have to do it against a time limit so the code may well have changed in the few seconds it takes to decipher the code and then type it in.
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Tall Tale Teller posted:Do you guys remember Sierra hint books? They had a sheet of red gel you looked through to read a walkthrough of Space Quest IV or whatever? The internet shut that stuff right down I tells ya. That's just reminded me of one of the gags in Space Quest IV. The whole thing involves time travel, and so all the actual game play is done in other Space Quest games that come before or after. At one point when you've gone forward in time to Space Quest X, you can go rooting through a bargain bin in a shop and you find the hint book for Space Quest IV. (In fact you HAVE to use it to get a code to solve one puzzle and move the plot forward. All the other hints are jokes, if I recall.)
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Those Sierra games were all so incredible. We will never see another time like the late 80s and early 90s. It was true magic.
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TraderStav posted:Those Sierra games were all so incredible. We will never see another time like the late 80s and early 90s. It was true magic. That and Infocom. When you're limited on graphics you have to rely on writing - although Sierra On-line were no slouches in the visuals. I keep trying to play LucasArts games but Maniac Mansion and DOTT are too slow paced for modern tastes. Hirayuki posted:I think that was Infocom. I believe LucasArts had the red gel, though. Yes, I remember now. I had both and I needed hint books for each of them.
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