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nobody bought anything, they just gave ethan money because theres no product
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https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1162167665592602625 Basically the same thing.
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Aug 16, 2019 03:37
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Anora posted:https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1162167665592602625 
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Aug 16, 2019 04:14
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https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1162244478616293376 This seems like some sort of very bizarre Hail Mary.
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There's someone downthread from that making the analogy that what they're doing is blowing the due date on a term paper, applying for and getting an extension, blowing that, and then protesting in front of the dean's office that term papers in general are a fascist construct that need to be abolished.
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Aug 16, 2019 18:41
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Oof. When I got into buying comics, my FLCS guy, whose a pretty chill dude, once warned me that the comic I was buying was a not a first printing. On one hand, that is completely far as that matters to some customers and it was very nice of him to inform me. On the other hand, I respectfully let him know that I don't consider such things with my purchasing decisions, though I am glad that he was considering such things as that shows he's a courteous seller. What I'm saying is, I would advise nobody to get into comic books with an "investment" mindset. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but "oof." I got a roth 401k, a roth IRA, a HSA, and, when I make more money, would consider some other brokerage investments once I can max out my annual contributions to the former. I ain't buying Superman to make a mint. At least this happened to some bigot rear end in a top hat, though, so I don't got to feel bad for the jerk.
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Aug 16, 2019 18:59
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https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1162432602994819078?s=20 Come on now
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Dawgstar posted:https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1162244478616293376 Its almost like he's a bad lawyer. https://twitter.com/TheBrownFolder/status/1162452325950271489?s=20
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Piell posted:Its almost like he's a bad lawyer. What the gently caress? did they all go to law school in loving England or something? I knew they were terrible lawyers because a good lawyer wouldn't have taken the case, but holy loving poo poo are they terrible lawyers. Probably the biggest difference between the US and other western democracies is the first amendment and the protections it gives (also the second amendment, but this isn't the thread for that debate).
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Piell posted:Its almost like he's a bad lawyer. Have I ever mentioned sometimes I am genuinely not sure whether Beard is doing shtick or is genuinely that dumb? Because sometimes etc.
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Aug 16, 2019 23:12
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I've swung back that he is in fact very dumb. He's going to get blowed up and he really doesn't see it coming.
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Aug 16, 2019 23:48
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https://twitter.com/Wolven/status/1162420867990786049
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https://twitter.com/ashleylynch/status/1162647927421976577
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How can someone be that stupid.
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Aug 17, 2019 19:32
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Rhyno posted:How can someone be that stupid. "INCLUDING AN AFRICAN AMERICAN CHARACTER MAKES IT WOKE!!!"
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Aug 17, 2019 20:16
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You know just the other day I was pointing out that Rorschach was an unpleasant racist Necon Psychopath who smells funny and hates women to somebody on YouTube.
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Rhyno posted:How can someone be that stupid. They're dishonest, not dumb. I mean they probably are dumb too, but they're lying.
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Aug 18, 2019 00:04
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The profit of outrage. Most of the people who have watched that video and agree with it have never read the comic.
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David D. Davidson posted:You know just the other day I was pointing out that Rorschach was an unpleasant racist Necon Psychopath who smells funny and hates women to somebody on YouTube. ...who, nonetheless, is the only character who's willing to stand up and object to killing millions 'for the greater good'.
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Aug 18, 2019 05:58
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Angry Salami posted:...who, nonetheless, is the only character who's willing to stand up and object to killing millions 'for the greater good'. It was already done, he objected to keeping it a secret and thereby making it a more or less meaningless act,. 
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Aug 18, 2019 06:02
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Yeah, everyone wanted to stop Ozymandias once they realized what he was up to, Rorschach's just the only one who thinks exposing him (and doing so without delay) is a good idea even after his horrible actions create world peace.
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Speaking of far-right assholes, Marvel killed an intro by Art Spiegelman because Perlmutter's feefees were hurt over the child of a Holocaust survivor calling Trump what he is. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/aug/17/art-spiegelman-golden-age-superheroes-were-shaped-by-the-rise-of-fascism
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ryonguy posted:https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/aug/17/art-spiegelman-golden-age-superheroes-were-shaped-by-the-rise-of-fascism That article has more errors and bullshit than a stockyard run by a dyslexic. EDIT: This article gives the basic facts. Gynovore fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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Aug 18, 2019 18:01
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Isn't that Guardian article that's "full of errors" literally the primary source; it's written by Art and contains the entirety of his pulled intro, albeit modified to be an article instead of a foreword.
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Lol
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Gynovore posted:That article has more errors and bullshit than a stockyard run by a dyslexic. 1) The Guardian article is... the article. That's Spiegelman's article. That's the article Art Spiegelman wrote. 2) "more errors and bullshit than a stockyard run by a dyslexic" please miss this thread with the incoherent ableism
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Archyduchess posted:1) The Guardian article is... the article. That's Spiegelman's article. That's the article Art Spiegelman wrote. I admit that's ablist, I apologise. I was trying to think of something witty in a 15 second time frame. Yes, that's Spiegleman's article, but it still has a lot of wrong, primarily the bit about Siegel and Shuster being "bilked" out of "rewards" for Superman. They were not. They sold the rights to Superman to Detective Comics for a very fair sum of money; $240, which is about $5000 in today's money, a staggering sum for two teenagers in the Depression.
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E the Shaggy posted:"INCLUDING AN AFRICAN AMERICAN CHARACTER MAKES IT WOKE!!!" THIS TV SHOW IS TOO INCLUSIVE!
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Aug 18, 2019 20:06
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That's a hill you want to die on, the equivalent of $5000 is proper compensation for creating the most famous comic book icon of all time, practically inventing an entire genre at the same time? What the gently caress man?
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Gynovore posted:I admit that's ablist, I apologise. I was trying to think of something witty in a 15 second time frame. They were both in their 20's, they were not children when they sold the character.
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I think Superman might be worth more than 5 grand
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But you see they signed a contract fairly and legally, and without the publisher's capital would Superman even be a thing  - a dweeb, somewhere online And furthermore, their reward was enacted when they received payment for their creation. All subsequent expectation of profit is immoral. - Steve Ditko from offstage, using the original pencils for the issue where Green Goblin appears as a cutting board. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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Skwirl posted:That's a hill you want to die on, the equivalent of $5000 is proper compensation for creating the most famous comic book icon of all time, practically inventing an entire genre at the same time? What would have happened if Siegel and Shuster had not sold the rights to DC? Superman would have been relegated to the bottom of the sock drawer and vanished. A dude posted:But you see they signed a contract fairly and legally, and without the publisher's capital would Superman even be a thing Without sarcasm, this. Gynovore fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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Aug 18, 2019 20:23
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Uhhh didn't the duo famously have to go to the press when the first movie came out about how dc screwed them, which led to dc capitulating (because they did screw them) and giving them huge checks and credits on Superman books in perpetuity
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Aug 18, 2019 20:29
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Gynovore posted:What would have happened if Siegel and Shuster had not sold the rights to DC? Superman would have been relegated to the bottom of the sock drawer and vanished.
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site posted:Uhhh didn't the duo famously have to go to the press when the first movie came out about how dc screwed them, which led to dc capitulating (because they did screw them) and giving them huge checks and credits on Superman books in perpetuity Essentially. And don't forget about the lawsuit that lead to DC killing off Superboy for a few years. DC did them very dirty.
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site posted:Uhhh didn't the duo famously have to go to the press when the first movie came out about how dc screwed them, which led to dc capitulating (because they did screw them) and giving them huge checks and credits on Superman books in perpetuity Yeah, there was a poo poo ton of lawsuits about it that DC either lost or settled out of court, so clearly the first contract was not entirely on the up and up.
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Gynovore posted:I admit that's ablist, I apologise. I was trying to think of something witty in a 15 second time frame. In today’s money, $5000 is a little less than half a years pay at the poverty line. Not insignificant but hardly life changing, and certainly near the amount for what is basically comic books, the character.
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Skwirl posted:Seriously, just gently caress off with this bullshit. You know, now that I think about it, you're right. I went to Wikipedia and found out that Simon and Shuster spent most of their lives in near-poverty while DC made billions. Maybe DC was *technically* in the right, but they should have given S+S something more. You were right and I was wrong.
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I think beyond being wrong you're whole view on the situation was hosed up in the first place
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