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T-man posted:Minority identities happens different to rich and poor. I am trans in a really, really different way than Caitlyn Jenner, because in all likelihood I'll never have surgery, hand made flattering clothing, and a team of makeup people. I get medicaid estrogen, thrift store skirts and drugstore makeup put on by myself. We're both transgender since we both ID as a different gender than the one we were assigned at birth, but the experience of having access to power and resources matters. I have no doubt that most people she talks to call her madam, since most of the people she will meet work for her and could/would get canned -- whereas most of the people I meet in a day are the customers (who think I work for them.) It's an entirely different world to interact with on the bougies. She's also the perfect point of reference for rear end in a top hat chuds like the people my wife works with who want to make fun of or vilify trans people but don't actually know any trans people themselves besides That Famous One, so at least you're not that 
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Even the desperate marketing department that Amazon delegated out this debacle to is running out of nice things to say about The Place Where People Put Stuff In Boxes  "Ok guys brainstorm time, what could our character like about their job?" "Uhh... boxes?" "Packages? Or are those just another form of box?" "Um... well... when you're done with the box, you have to... uh... ship the box, right?" "Good start, good start, how about a few more"[the room is awkwardly silent for a few moments] "Remember, no bad ideas guys!"[more awkward silence, for a solid hour] "Uhhhhhh... boxes... packages... what else do boxes have on them... uhh... the amazon logo? Tape maybe? Boxes usually have tape right?"
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*laying down in yet another bone marrow donation clinic* Why would I need a union lol. Jeff Bezos is the best boss ever
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See, when I put the gun to your head and demanded all your money, you should have said no. You were free to do so!
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I actually read the comments on that and they're interesting, they're desperately trying to figure out how to deal with entire generations in absurd amounts of debt while reflexively calling each other communists for suggesting even token reform. also i think that type of conversation asymptotically approaches blaming the debtors and proposing debtors' prisons
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'Those not in attendance will not receive over time pay on friday' - Are they saying any overtime you earned that pay period will be denied?
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TheMostFrench posted:'Those not in attendance will not receive over time pay on friday' - Are they saying any overtime you earned that pay period will be denied? I'm pretty sure the implication is that attending the speech will take up more time than a usual shift so you'll be earning OT by the end of the week. OT is probably the carrot they're dangling to get people on the bus
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It's absolutely hilarious / depressing to me, as a Swede, to see brainwashed Americans talking about unions like they're... i dont know, evil? Communist?? Like how did that even happen? Did rich people just tell the masses that it's in their best interest to let the rich people dictate terms somehow? Where's the logic? I don't get it! Unions are not scary or evil. They are there as a shield against corporations and managers dictating all the terms so you don't always have to bend over and take it in the rear end constantly Look at Scandinavia, usually used as examples of very successful countries - they got loving unions. They're not communist hellholes  [€dit] We got over 70% of our working population in unions here. America has like 11%? It's nuts. Like, guys, no wonder your working conditions suck and your bosses get to be dictators? lol Zzulu has issued a correction as of 08:36 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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Zzulu posted:commie screeching Just kidding, I agree with you. The US is a raging (and unfortunately nuclear-armed) dumpster fire
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Yep this is when you let your buddy clock all of you in.
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Zzulu posted:It's absolutely hilarious / depressing to me, as a Swede, to see brainwashed Americans talking about unions like they're... i dont know, evil? Communist?? Like how did that even happen? Did rich people just tell the masses that it's in their best interest to let the rich people dictate terms somehow? Where's the logic? I don't get it! Someone else will have to give you info on how anti-union sentiment really got started (the best I can tell you is "propaganda is a hell of a drug"), but otherwise rich people totally bought out the Democratic party and so neither political party is interested at all in repealing poo poo like right-to-work or passing out pro-union legislation. So in tons of places it's very easy to just not be allowed to be in a union, or if there is a union it's just completely disallowed by law or by contract to actually do anything meaningful
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DrManiac posted:reading comments for the $15 minimum wage increase is always super depressing to me. I genuinely can’t get the mindset someone who’s not a business owner of being pissed people are being paid more. Crab bucket.
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Everything I remember hearing as an argument against wage increases such as overall increase in the costs of things, the workforce being cut to the absolute minimum and having next to no hours available, or getting replaced with robots was funny because that poo poo happened regardless of a wage increase because capitalists gonna capitalist.
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Zzulu posted:It's absolutely hilarious / depressing to me, as a Swede, to see brainwashed Americans talking about unions like they're... i dont know, evil? Communist?? Like how did that even happen? Did rich people just tell the masses that it's in their best interest to let the rich people dictate terms somehow? Where's the logic? I don't get it! It was conservatives in both parties that began dismantling unions a little bit at a time. Then MSM like FOX and MSNBC came along and demonized the word socialism. Then FOX convinced a generation of conservatives to vote with the elites instead of those in their class. In fact the FOX news effect has happened in Australia and England. Basically, Rupert Murdoch has used his media empire to misinform right wingers so bad that they vote against their best interests habitually.
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union membership is dropping in scandinavia as well - the ongoing casualisation of work means that it's less tempting to stand and fight, so e.g. hospitality professions are very much hollowed out messes where people would rather move on or grit their teeth for a couple of years than make a fuss my impression of america is that there's been severe state pressure against unions as well as a very individualistic culture which sees collective bargaining as basically inefficient, combined with people being very spread out and divided along racial lines which means that unions are hard to form and relatively weak where they do exist. in addition, all the bullshit stuff like uber or deliveroo make it very difficult to know how many people are really employed because they're formally freelancers, which further weakens union power unions work best in situations where there is widespread acceptance of the principles of solidarity - prices in scandinavia are very high, in no small part due to strong unions. as groups start to fall outside of the umbrella of solidarity for whatever reason, it creates a wedge - these people's demand for higher wages are making my commodities more expensive, and they're basically only in it for themselves. this is not an incorrect observation! if one doesn't believe in class solidarity and works in a non-unionised workplace, it can be perfectly rational to resent union workers for their relative privilege rather than go through a massive struggle and no small risk to try to make things better for yourself there's insufficient class consciousness all around, and this is a huge problem for the modern left V. Illych L. has issued a correction as of 11:29 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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DrManiac posted:reading comments for the $15 minimum wage increase is always super depressing to me. I genuinely can’t get the mindset someone who’s not a business owner of being pissed people are being paid more. "Because some jobs aren't worth that. Why would I work here when McDonald's will be paying the same?" Which I get to an extent. But ideally the poo poo rear end place we work will raise wages to keep people from doing that exact thing. I know they recently raised the warehouse starting wage because there's an Amazon warehouse opening nearby and they're afraid people will quit to go there I just see my rent going up because "everyone makes more money now so I can raise this" which brings us back to landlords being scum. 0 rows returned posted:Everything I remember hearing as an argument against wage increases such as overall increase in the costs of things, the workforce being cut to the absolute minimum and having next to no hours available, or getting replaced with robots was funny because that poo poo happened regardless of a wage increase because capitalists gonna capitalist. Yeah everyone convinced minimum wage increases are why McDonald's is putting in kiosks you order from is just wrong. It was only a matter of time before they replaced underpaid people with machines. A machine doesn't come to work drunk or stoned, a machine doesn't have emotional baggage that causes them to fuckup, a machine doesn't have to go to the bathroom.
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DoubleDonut posted:So in tons of places it's very easy to just not be allowed to be in a union, or if there is a union it's just completely disallowed by law or by contract to actually do anything meaningful The union I’m part of at my work cannot go on strike, so we get pitiful raises when the contract has to be renewed. With our latest contract the rising health insurance costs basically canceled out the meager raise anyway.
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Mill Village posted:The union I’m part of at my work cannot go on strike How do they enforce this, exactly. Are they going to fire their entire workforce if everyone goes on strike?
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ManBoyChef posted:Then MSM like FOX and MSNBC came along and demonized the word socialism. Winner of dumbest sentence August 2019
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ManBoyChef posted:Then MSM like FOX and MSNBC came along and demonized the word socialism. socialism has been a dirty word in the us for a lot longer than tv has existed
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Zzulu posted:Did rich people just tell the masses that it's in their best interest to let the rich people dictate terms somehow? In short, Yes. This is exactly what happened.
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"I don't need unions to fight for me. I can handle my own business by talking with my boss." *Boss gives him lip service, nothing changes, probably laid off*
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Elman posted:How do they enforce this, exactly. yes, go read up on reagan and air traffic controllers strike several of the teacher's strikes from the past year were also illegal strikes but fortunately none of the state governments had the courage to fire all the teachers
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Elman posted:How do they enforce this, exactly. Sometimes they fire them. Sometimes they fire at them. Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 has issued a correction as of 14:44 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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duz posted:yes, go read up on reagan and air traffic controllers strike The next time they'll just fire all the teachers and replace them with prison labor. Many of them have experience with firearms, after all.
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