DrBouvenstein posted:

I just had an offer accepted on a house, and it was built in the mid/late 60's, and I'm genuinely surprised there's hardwood floors. I thought most new construction from that era just went straight to carpet.

DrBouvenstein posted:

Ugh, tell me about it...who puts a ceiling fan in a kitchen?!

And of course no under-cabinet lighting...or any lighting at all other than the ceiling fan...and I guess the light-bulb in the stove hood (that does not actually vent outside, despite being an exterior wall) works.

DrBouvenstein posted:

PurpleXVI posted:

I like the floor tiles, but goddamn, the slabs of brick veneer don't even line up! There's a super clear failed line-up over the stove.

Orvin posted:

Having gown up and lived in various houses built in the late 50s and early 60s, curling fans definitely had a purpose in kitchens. Those houses don’t have the best cross ventilation. The ceiling fan keeps you from cooking yourself while preparing dinner when it isn’t winter time.

DrBouvenstein posted:

Well, I don't think they're tiles, I believe it's just a slab/roll or whatever you call it of linoleum. I don't think you should like it, I'm 80% sure it was originally white...

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

https://i.imgur.com/q6ukU1Y.mp4

canyoneer posted:

xpost


I started off horrified at the lack of eye protection and then ended up pleasantly surprised and entertained.

DrBouvenstein posted:

I just had an offer accepted on a house, and it was built in the mid/late 60's, and I'm genuinely surprised there's hardwood floors. I thought most new construction from that era just went straight to carpet.

There is carpet in the living room I have to rip up (going off of looks and general wear, looks like it was put down in the late 80's/early 90's) but the OG hardwood is there underneath.

The kitchen, though...well, that's an interesting story.

Fake brick veneer over every wall, even the "backsplash" under the cabinets.

Nevets posted:

Also I learned something today: apparently linoleum was originally a specific flooring material made out of lineseed oil, rosin, and various dusts. The flooring in my old kitchen was almost definitely made of vinyl, we always just called it linoleum. It's probably one of those things like 'tin' foil, or pencil 'lead'.

DrBouvenstein posted:

...

Fake brick veneer over every wall, even the "backsplash" under the cabinets.

Ambrose Burnside posted:

"linoleum" by name was originally a sheet product that stemmed from an attempt to use cured linseed oil as a cheap/non-tropical-import-dependent substitute for proper natural latex rubber, yeah

linseed-based flooring is a lot older than linoleum, though- "dirt floors" in old buildings were rarely just ~dirt~ but a deliberate finish + treatment applied to packed earth to make them nice to use, and linseed oil was a highly-desirable one. i have a 'recipe' for a traditional blacksmith's forge floor treatment that involved well-tamped earth, a base layer of clay/sand blended to achieve desired working properties, and then a facing layer of clay, forge ash and finely-crushed forge clinker (fused silica/dross that forms in the forge firebowl), which was finished with several cycles of linseed application and buffing. not only was it fireproof and durable, it was easy to repair using largely waste products from the forge's operation
best of all, though, and what people never think a "dirt floor" could offer, is that it was sort of soft, just like linoleum. linseed-treated earth floors are often described as feeling like leather, a byproduct of the rubbery cured linseed oil that impregnated the upper facing of the floor. that slight give offered some comfort and impact softening to the working smiths in the way a rubber anti-fatigue mat does nowadays. drat smart way to build a forge

Jerry Cotton posted:

I thought linseed oil was inflammable. Dunno why

Platystemon posted:

Linseed oil is a drying oil.

It will spontaneously oxidise and form polymers at room temperature. That’s how oil painting works. Once it’s dry, it’s not a particular fire hazard.

But get enough of it oxidising in a small space, like a bunch of oily rags in a rubbish bin, and they’ll get hot enough to ignite.

DrBouvenstein posted:

Well, I don't think they're tiles, I believe it's just a slab/roll or whatever you call it of linoleum. I don't think you should like it, I'm 80% sure it was originally white...

Platystemon posted:

Linseed oil is a drying oil.

It will spontaneously oxidise and form polymers at room temperature. That’s how oil painting works. Once it’s dry, it’s not a particular fire hazard.

But get enough of it oxidising in a small space, like a bunch of oily rags in a rubbish bin, and they’ll get hot enough to ignite.

Zipperelli. posted:

ngl, I'm diggin' the brick.

Ambrose Burnside posted:

"linoleum" by name was originally a sheet product that stemmed from an attempt to use cured linseed oil as a cheap/non-tropical-import-dependent substitute for proper natural latex rubber, yeah

linseed-based flooring is a lot older than linoleum, though- "dirt floors" in old buildings were rarely just ~dirt~ but a deliberate finish + treatment applied to packed earth to make them nice to use, and linseed oil was a highly-desirable one. i have a 'recipe' for a traditional blacksmith's forge floor treatment that involved well-tamped earth, a base layer of clay/sand blended to achieve desired working properties, and then a facing layer of clay, forge ash and finely-crushed forge clinker (fused silica/dross that forms in the forge firebowl), which was finished with several cycles of linseed application and buffing. not only was it fireproof and durable, it was easy to repair using largely waste products from the forge's operation
best of all, though, and what people never think a "dirt floor" could offer, is that it was sort of soft, just like linoleum. linseed-treated earth floors are often described as feeling like leather, a byproduct of the rubbery cured linseed oil that impregnated the upper facing of the floor. that slight give offered some comfort and impact softening to the working smiths in the way a rubber anti-fatigue mat does nowadays. drat smart way to build a forge

DrBouvenstein posted:

therobit posted:

I bet it sure was healthy to work in a forge where the loving floor is made with coal ash. Jesus. Although I guess they were already working with coal and coal ash in the forge and the ventilation is was most likely not up to snuff, so they all probably would have died of some horrible cancer anyway. Blacksmithing with coal can't be a really healthy occupation to begin with.

Scarodactyl posted:

I like it. It's like having a 90s discount pizza buffet in your very own kitchen.

DrBouvenstein posted:

I just had an offer accepted on a house, and it was built in the mid/late 60's, and I'm genuinely surprised there's hardwood floors. I thought most new construction from that era just went straight to carpet.

There is carpet in the living room I have to rip up (going off of looks and general wear, looks like it was put down in the late 80's/early 90's) but the OG hardwood is there underneath.

The kitchen, though...well, that's an interesting story.

Fake brick veneer over every wall, even the "backsplash" under the cabinets.

DrBouvenstein posted:

I'm torn on the cabinets. Obviously I can paint them, but the style is so plain. Maybe I can try to use a router to put a better pattern on the face? Not sure if that would work since it has that very slight pattern now.

But they are 100% real wood, even the shelving inside are full planks of real wood, not pressboard or whatever is used in modern shelving.

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

they're fine. paint or strip & stain, update the hardware, don't ruin the face with something you can't undo that'll be out of date in 5 years.


(imho)

Nevets posted:

Also I learned something today: apparently linoleum was originally a specific flooring material made out of lineseed oil, rosin, and various dusts. The flooring in my old kitchen was almost definitely made of vinyl, we always just called it linoleum. It's probably one of those things like 'tin' foil, or pencil 'lead'.

PurpleXVI posted:

Oh. Oh no.

Linoleum doesn't belong in homes, it belongs in institutions and public areas.

Begone, cursed material.


Yeah, pretty much every carpenter has a story of how they/an apprentice hosed up with linseed oil the first time. Usually it's just smoke damage, thankfully.

insta posted:

Arc welding is also like 30 volts so it's not that big of a deal anyway

Leperflesh posted:

I don't wanna just let this pass, in case anyone doesn't know about electricity. As my old teacher used to say, "it's the volts that jolt, but the current that kills." In other words you cannot evaluate whether exposure to a particular electrical charge is dangerous solely by looking at the voltage.

Anything over 100 milliamps is dangerous and potentially fatal.

Allowing an arc welder's charge to flow through your body can definitely kill you.

Ambrose Burnside posted:

ash bound up in linseed oil isn't a respiratory issue, the idea with those floors was to regularly sprinkle ash onto the floor along with water and a periodic linseed spritz, continually building them up or at least offsetting wear
but in any case lol yeah the floor thing wouldn't even register. when working with coal you hock up tarry black loogies after a days' work and your clothing falls apart on your body because the sulfur dioxide in the smoke turns to dilute sulphuric acid when it contacts your sweat-soaked body

Lead out in cuffs posted:

I'd take linoleum over bare concrete any day, though. And I have seen new apartments being built with bare concrete floors.

Also gently caress the trend of hip eateries that are basically just an echoey concrete box where you have to shout to have a conversation as soon as more than five people are in the space.