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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

smarxist posted:

this is a dumb as poo poo reason, we have mountains of evidence of from history of clandestine organizations cleaning house when needed, even if they're "one of us", you'd have to come up with some insanely good reason that epstein is indisposable to the point that an elaborate hoax can be crafted and maintained by dozens of people

even if it was important for him to 'be alive' for their operation purposes all they'd have to do is wack him and then tell anyone who asks he's on an island somewhere like a child and a dead dog at the farm. that also happens dozens of times throughout history.

I don't mean part of the CIA I mean part of the cabal of individuals who literally run society, who are all connected to jeffrey epstein, I don't buy that they see him as just another henchmen/lackey, he's a part of the club

Edit; my other theory about keeping him alive is that either he, or Ghislaine, who is on the record as being desperate for his approval and love, had a deadmans switch or multiple of some kind

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smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
dude the only people powerful rich people care about less than their family are their friends

i'm willing to start at "he was murdered" but "they faked his death to whisk him away for ~reasons~" doesn't pass any logical stress tests, you're just wanting to believe in powerful forces with insane levels of control because its a weird comfort

Christoph
Mar 3, 2005
So we're just going to do the alive/dead debate forever huh

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

smarxist posted:

dude the only people powerful rich people care about less than their family are their friends

i'm willing to start at "he was murdered" but "they faked his death to whisk him away for ~reasons~" doesn't pass any logical stress tests, you're just wanting to believe in powerful forces with insane levels of control because its a weird comfort

you're an idiot

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

mastershakeman posted:

Dead man's switch that he didn't give up under assault by the roid cop

It was probably just that poo poo in his safe.

He got busted the first time because his tradecraft degenerated into 'troll the local high school for girls.'

His Deadman's Switch was probably just as lazy.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Ace of Baes posted:

Because there is an important differentiation, he is one of them, not one of us.

The Saudis chopped up a Washington Post columnist in a foreign country for putting his name on some Qatari PR pieces

When you're seen as a threat to parts of the ruling class they don't give a poo poo what your background is

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Ace of Baes posted:

you're an idiot

lol and you think it makes sense that dozens of people orchestrated epstein's escape from jail with a fake dead body instead of just killing him and being done with it because they were BROS

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

smarxist posted:

lol and you think it makes sense that dozens of people orchestrated epstein's escape from jail with a fake dead body instead of just killing him and being done with it because they were BROS

But the denialism is a bad counter

See: any rich organized crime figure.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
just the logistics of "faking" something like that, the sheer number of people that have to be involved precludes it by all logical reasoning, you're talking about 2 dozen MINIMUM and probably more working in concert to free the most hated man in america that millions of people are waiting to hear from

it's far easier to slip one person in and bribe a few guards, or create the conditions necessary for him to be able to kill himself (both far more likely) than some weekend at bernie's dog and pony show wheeling fake rear end corpses out in front of press photographers lol

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
if you think epstein was taken away alive and a fake dead body rolled out you may as well go down the "sandy hook was a false flag" rabbit hole

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
I think maybe you're misunderstanding when I say cabal I'm not generalizing I'm talking about a literal cabal of people who run the media, news, music, Hollywood, and politicians through pedophilia, murder, black mail, and other horrible stuff we don't know the extent of, if you read this thread from the start you can literally see everyone implicated, please stop making bad posts

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

smarxist posted:

dude the only people powerful rich people care about less than their family are their friends

i'm willing to start at "he was murdered" but "they faked his death to whisk him away for ~reasons~" doesn't pass any logical stress tests, you're just wanting to believe in powerful forces with insane levels of control because its a weird comfort

when you're a Canaanite, you're a Canaanite all the way
from your first offering to Baphomet to your last dying day

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Ace of Baes posted:

I think maybe you're misunderstanding when I say cabal I'm not generalizing I'm talking about a literal cabal of people who run the media, news, music, Hollywood, and politicians through pedophilia, murder, black mail, and other horrible stuff we don't know the extent of, if you read this thread from the start you can literally see everyone implicated, please stop making bad posts

how many? give me a number. the inner sanctum cabal, + lieutenants and footsoldiers. and also how many people they needed to orchestrate Epstein's escape

edit:
also a (((cabal))) that runs all the media eh, and Epstein is ONE OF THEM, hmm. :thunk:

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

smarxist posted:

if you think epstein was taken away alive and a fake dead body rolled out you may as well go down the "sandy hook was a false flag" rabbit hole

I assume you're used to using pizzagate when elucidating those wacky tin foil nuts who think Bill and Hill are loving children.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

smarxist posted:

how many? give me a number. the inner sanctum cabal, + lieutenants and footsoldiers. and also how many people they needed to orchestrate Epstein's escape

edit:
also a (((cabal))) that runs all the media eh, and Epstein is ONE OF THEM, hmm. :thunk:

https://twitter.com/jezawatson/status/1161150347643117569?s=19

twoday
May 4, 2005



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smarxist posted:

if you think epstein was taken away alive and a fake dead body rolled out you may as well go down the "sandy hook was a false flag" rabbit hole

yeah I'm pretty sure he's dead

my best argument for him being alive is "he was rich and powerful and threatening and could afford to bribe and intimidate whoever he wanted so that he could fake his death, even from prison."

remember the last thing he said when he met his lawyers?

*smiling* "see you on sunday!"

sounds like what a man who faked his death on a saturday would say!

(not really, I think it was far more likely he was killed, but this story has been ridiculous so far, so never say never)

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




sure, the cia totally could body double Epstein but I bet they just offed him. either there’s no dead man switch, they found and destroyed it, or they just figure they can bury any revelations through their lockdown on the MSM

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

these are just the rich and powerful people, remember that each of them potentially has a small army of servants and henchmen

ross perot in hell
Jul 9, 2019

by VideoGames

smarxist posted:

if you think epstein was taken away alive and a fake dead body rolled out you may as well go down the "sandy hook was a false flag" rabbit hole

binch what thread do u think ur in

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

twoday posted:

yeah I'm pretty sure he's dead

my best argument for him being alive is "he was rich and powerful and threatening and could afford to bribe and intimidate whoever he wanted so that he could fake his death, even from prison."

remember the last thing he said when he met his lawyers? *smiling*

"see you on sunday!"

sounds like what a man who faked his death on a saturday would say to me!

(not really, I think it was far more likely he was killed, but this story has been ridiculous so far, so never say never)

what if his lawyers did meet with him on sunday

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
law enforcement got the goods, the boxes and hard drives and papers, his testimony would have been nice but is superficial.

btw if this cabal is so awesome why do we even have scans of their member list in the black book? :thunk:

bad opsec, this whole thing is unraveling!!!

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

smarxist posted:

if you think epstein was taken away alive and a fake dead body rolled out you may as well go down the "sandy hook was a false flag" rabbit hole

no small brain takes in the cosmic brain thread please

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

twoday posted:

these are just the rich and powerful people, remember that each of them potentially has a small army of servants and henchmen

how many employees did epstein have on the child rape temple island that kept his secrets?

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011

Ace of Baes posted:

They can't let Epstein die, or testify, or go to prison,because if Epstein could who else might be thrown to the commoners next? No much easier to make him "dissapear" along with the indictment and court cases attached to him.


I don't totally rule out that he's alive, but I disagree with this. They made him what he was. He wasn't old money and he didn't make his own fortune, they found him and set him up to serve them. He was their tool, so there was no need for solidarity with him.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

smarxist posted:

law enforcement got the goods, the boxes and hard drives and papers, his testimony would have been nice but is superficial.

btw if this cabal is so awesome why do we even have scans of their member list in the black book? :thunk:

bad opsec, this whole thing is unraveling!!!

if you read this thread you would know that they already pre sweeped the island and the person who leaked the book got murdered

twoday
May 4, 2005



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jarofpiss posted:

what if his lawyers did meet with him on sunday

wouldn't be the first time a jew died on a weekend and came back on sunday to escape the persecution of the authorities

what I'm trying to say is, epstein was really one and the same as our lord and savior, jesus christ

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

jarofpiss posted:

how many employees did epstein have on the child rape temple island that kept his secrets?

they didn't though, he's been arrested a few times, there are tons of victims testimony and damning evidence

it's not actioned upon because of patriarchy and capitalism, not because of a secret cabal's ministrations lmfao

the truth is so huge and right in front of you just take it in

our society loving hates women, and rich men can do whatever the gently caress they want

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

sleeptalker posted:

I don't totally rule out that he's alive, but I disagree with this. They made him what he was. He wasn't old money and he didn't make his own fortune, they found him and set him up to serve them. He was their tool, so there was no need for solidarity with him.

He's been doing this since Dalton, that's 46 years. He may have started as nothing but pretending he's henchmen #4 is ridiculous, he was clearly deeply connected to the operation.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

smarxist posted:

they didn't though, he's been arrested a few times, there are tons of victims testimony and damning evidence

it's not actioned upon because of patriarchy and capitalism, not because of a secret cabal's ministrations lmfao

the truth is so huge and right in front of you just take it in

our society loving hates women, and rich men can do whatever the gently caress they want

peter thiel is a literal vampire. im not prepared to say that the billionaire class is not sacrificing children in blasphemous blood sex magic rituals

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

smarxist posted:

law enforcement got the goods, the boxes and hard drives and papers, his testimony would have been nice but is superficial.

btw if this cabal is so awesome why do we even have scans of their member list in the black book? :thunk:

bad opsec, this whole thing is unraveling!!!

And if the cabal's so awesome, how'd he get arrested and convicted and then arrested again? It seems like incompetent goons who got blindsided by the arrest and had to try twice to kill him and made it look suspicious as hell.

twoday posted:

wouldn't be the first time a jew died on a weekend and came back on sunday to escape the persecution of the authorities

what I'm trying to say is, epstein was really one and the same as our lord and savior, jesus christ

Between El Chapo and Manafort, which one is the penitent thief and which one is the impenitent thief?

Civilized Fishbot has issued a correction as of 02:39 on Aug 20, 2019

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

ace of baes... hmm isn't that a play on ace of base? https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-90s-pop-band-secretly-sold-nazism-to-america/

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003


Zus fuckin Christmas

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
the cabal is capitalism and patriarchy, every rich man is a part of it, and they're socialized to drag their feet on ever punishing each other's excess unless it becomes completely unavoidable to do so

there are systems of exploitation and gross abuse that exist, but they arose and are maintained organically, not by some omnipotent guild

people wanna believe that so that we can just kill or arrest 100 people and stop all the madness, but we have to literally rebuild our culture and society to stop the jeffrey epstein's of the world

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

anyways I like to imagine the body swap mission as some kind of oceans 11 style caper

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

smarxist posted:

they didn't though, he's been arrested a few times, there are tons of victims testimony and damning evidence

it's not actioned upon because of patriarchy and capitalism, not because of a secret cabal's ministrations lmfao

the truth is so huge and right in front of you just take it in

our society loving hates women, and rich men can do whatever the gently caress they want

this thread is already filled with communists you're not educating anyone with these posts you just look really stupid to everyone who's done more than an hour's reading on Epstein

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

ymgve posted:

when it comes to celebrity reporting I think they are pretty accurate, in that the source photos and videos are real. it’s just that generally they report poo poo that is neither criminal nor of public interest, and has a pretty liberal attitude to truth when it comes to writing headlines

the dailymail openly solicits paps photos and news stories and state they'll pay you so they get stuff other outlets don't.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Ace of Baes posted:

this thread is already filled with communists you're not educating anyone with these posts you just look really stupid to everyone who's done more than an hour's reading on Epstein

alright fake body pill me, give me the most compelling piece of proof you have in a post, make it as long as you want and i promise to read the whole thing

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

Ace of Baes posted:

this thread is already filled with communists you're not educating anyone with these posts you just look really stupid to everyone who's done more than an hour's reading on Epstein

your posts are easily the worst in the thread stop policing and be humble

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Ace of Baes posted:

this thread is already filled with communists you're not educating anyone with these posts you just look really stupid to everyone who's done more than an hour's reading on Epstein

i actually think epstein was transported through time to the future, where he's from. his real name is john titor. i'm one step ahead of you my man

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twoday
May 4, 2005



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jarofpiss posted:

how many employees did epstein have on the child rape temple island that kept his secrets?

well at the very least,

- a maid or maids
- several security guards according to accounts, making sure the snorkeling tourists nearby don't come ashore
- probably a personal chef, possibly several other kitchen staff/waiters if he was hosting fancy dinner parties for lots of people or heads of state
- various contractors building the temple and digging the tunnels and operating the cement truck and whatnot, also electricians and such
- someone overseeing all the constant renovation and construction
- interior decorator
- someone maintaining the boat, because boats are a pain in the rear end
- some gardeners/landscapers
- IT contractor (who quit because he got freaked out by all the pedo poo poo)
- child porn photographer
- personal assistant
- probably some other tech people making sure his solar panels and hidden cameras were working properly
- someone was driving all of his trash to the southwestern tip of the island where there was a temporary landfill, and then this was occasionally loaded onto boats and taken away (probably dumped in the ocean), and that was all done by a team of general low-ranking henchmen, probably. Such henchmen would also be useful for boarding up windows when hurricanes were coming, etc.
- similarly, there must have been someone responsible for delivering basic necessities to his island, probably by ship from the nearby island of St. Thomas. Gotta make sure he has a fresh basket of fruit or whatever, probably multiple people involved
- pilots and captains for his boats and helicopters, who often had to stay there with him until he decided to depart again (this was often ghislane I presume), and who also had to facilitate the movement of the above-mentioned personnel
- someone to manage all the above-mentioned personnel
- the sex slaves themselves of course, as well as someone to tend to their needs

keep in mind that this is just for his island, he would have had other chefs/maids/henchmen on call at his other properties in Florida, New Mexico, New York, and Paris

many of these probably overlap into single individuals, and not everyone would be there at once, but the logistics of operating a private island dictate that there were always a bunch of other people around

twoday has issued a correction as of 03:14 on Aug 20, 2019

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