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The Cameo posted:Any move can be a credible finisher, though. All it takes is winning with it enough times, maybe doing it with a little more flair than most guys, give it a cool name, and then suddenly it's established as a killer move. Paul Heyman in a great interview once discussed how he could book Mark Henry using a headlock as a monster submission.
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Two Beans posted:Paul Heyman in a great interview once discussed how he could book Mark Henry using a headlock as a monster submission. That was on the Steve Austin Show, I think. He said he'd find the guys who can make their faces turn the reddest and pair them up against Henry.
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Defiance Industries posted:That was on the Steve Austin Show, I think. He said he'd find the guys who can make their faces turn the reddest and pair them up against Henry. Not gonna lie Brock v Henry in a non squash is something I would like to see.
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Heyman and Austin just shooting the poo poo sounds amazing, frankly.
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Henry's current finishers are a body slam and a bear hug, so it's not hard to make the argument that he could get lame moves over based on his look alone.The Cameo posted:Like, I forget who - it might have been Jake Roberts - but a guy was asked in a backstage interview once, "hey, what separates you doing this move that's commonly used by other guys, why is this move your finisher when for most guys it's just a regular move?" and he just gave the answer "when I do it, they stay down."
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Wait a minute. I haven't watched wrestling in the last 10-15 years (hence my posting in the WCW thread), did you just say Mark Henry is not only still wrestling, but is actually over? Am I hearing that right? 
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rujasu posted:Wait a minute. I haven't watched wrestling in the last 10-15 years (hence my posting in the WCW thread), did you just say Mark Henry is not only still wrestling, but is actually over? Am I hearing that right? Nah he’s retired but officially only for a couple of years. He actually got over really well in the early 2010s when he went on his Hall of Pain run and was just a scary tank of a man who wrecked people which he should have been all along https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AttLwBlk3i8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxm5c2XBcXo
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Henry also has a voice that carries, so the crowd and the home audience could clearly hear him clowning on people as he threw them around, yelling poo poo like "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?! THAT'S RIGHT, NOTHING!! YOU CAN'T DO A drat THING!!"
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pre-NWO Heel Hogan was some weird rear end poo poo. I can't remember how they even resolved that. Something about throwing The Giant off a casino.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Henry also has a voice that carries, so the crowd and the home audience could clearly hear him clowning on people as he threw them around, yelling poo poo like "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?! THAT'S RIGHT, NOTHING!! YOU CAN'T DO A drat THING!!" I remember he was working over Cena and yelled "YOU GOT JOKES NOW?". Man, they heard that poo poo in the nosebleeds.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Henry also has a voice that carries, so the crowd and the home audience could clearly hear him clowning on people as he threw them around, yelling poo poo like "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?! THAT'S RIGHT, NOTHING!! YOU CAN'T DO A drat THING!!" Mark Henry talking audible poo poo during matches was the best thing ever.  Him clowning on Orton then pinning him clean as a sheet was cool, especially for the couple of shocked bros in the front row.
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How many guys did WCW have who dressed as bikers all the time?
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Halloween Jack posted:How many guys did WCW have who dressed as bikers all the time? Wrestlers traded cowboy for biker in their goto gimmick set.
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Halloween Jack posted:Jake also never did a lame backyarder DDT. (At least, not until he was so hosed up he couldn't do a back bump and wrestling for crack.) Truth. There was something about the snap and the impact of a Jake Roberts DDT that just made it look like he'd killed a dude. He simply does DDTs better than almost anybody. Halloween Jack posted:How many guys did WCW have who dressed as bikers all the time? A ton. Bischoff was big into the "bikers = tough guys" thing that's etched into the brains of baby boomers.
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Randaconda posted:Mark Henry talking audible poo poo during matches was the best thing ever. Favorite GDT ever. Shock and awe, baby. You get the vibe Cole is genuinely happy for Mark, too. Rightly so, Mark ate an unreal amount of poo poo in WWE, and pretty much 100% of the problems with getting him over lay in WWE not understanding how to get Mark in position to be over. Between the Rock, Godfather and Mark Henry, NOD really did an amazing job of salvaging talent. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Aug 20, 2019 |
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ecavalli posted:Truth. There was something about the snap and the impact of a Jake Roberts DDT that just made it look like he'd killed a dude. He simply does DDTs better than almost anybody.
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ecavalli posted:Truth. There was something about the snap and the impact of a Jake Roberts DDT that just made it look like he'd killed a dude. He simply does DDTs better than almost anybody. 
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Favorite GDT ever. Shock and awe, baby. Link?
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LividLiquid posted:Raven's evenflow in WCW was an amazing DDT. Like the Stunner, he'd kick you in the gut first to get you in position and it looked devastating. Later on, he'd add a long pause when his opponent's head was under his arm and he wouldn't back bump as hard and it sucked. Raven sometimes did a variation where he'd reverse a an irish whip into a short arm into the Evenflow. He did it on Kaz Hayashi once on WCWSN, and between the snap and the selljob, it looked like Kaz was dead.
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My favorite thing mark henry yelled was “If I charge you for oxygen, you best keep your bill paid up”. I’m pretty sure he was just wailing on some guy outside.
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Randaconda posted:Link? Can't find it, but I remember goons losing their poo poo because most if not all were convinced Mark was being fed to Orton
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The American Dream posted:My favorite thing mark henry yelled was “If I charge you for oxygen, you best keep your bill paid up”. I’m pretty sure he was just wailing on some guy outside. Mark wasn't the best at the technical wrestling game, but I could watch him wail on fools every episode of Raw. Edit: dug out the gameday thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3438079
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Halloween Jack posted:How many guys did WCW have who dressed as bikers all the time? Bischoff and Hogan were obsessed with bikers to the point that they ran the annual Hog Wild/Road Wild PPV in Sturgis with a free gate and a crowd that would poo poo on anyone not white.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Bischoff and Hogan were obsessed with bikers to the point that they ran the annual Hog Wild/Road Wild PPV in Sturgis with a free gate and a crowd that would poo poo on anyone not white. also this led to a bunch of wrestlers doing the sturgis ride, then getting lost, or getting into accidents even after they stopped Hogg Wild and did New Blood Rising
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Rightly so, Mark ate an unreal amount of poo poo in WWE True, ask X-Pac
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the face plant on a good ddt makes it look real good, like an actual broken neck occurred. the over the top flipping and headstand type of bumps that look "better" actually look "worse"! if you didn't faceplant properly for jake he would whoop your little rear end like a biker
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No surprise that Hogan would take cues from the Republican Party. 
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Randaconda posted:Mark wasn't the best at the technical wrestling game, but I could watch him wail on fools every episode of Raw. Match reactions start on this page, what a wonderful trip down memory lane  Henry's recent appearance on Steve Austin's podcast was really great too, and uhhh, to bring this back to WCW kinda, he talks mad poo poo about Big T!
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frankenfreak posted:No surprise that Hogan would take cues from the Republican Party. That's also around the second(?) time he announced his candidacy for President, I believe on Jay Leno.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:That's also around the second(?) time he announced his candidacy for President, I believe on Jay Leno. Nah, that's was 98, the magazine is during his terrible WCW, but pre-heel turn days. Except for "THAT'S NOT HOT!" that loving owned edit: pretend all my posts in this thread were posted at 6:05
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Jerusalem posted:Match reactions start on this page, what a wonderful trip down memory lane Best comment: Lord Of Texas posted:WIG STATUS: SPLIT
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Mark Henry on commentary was wonderful too. There was one time Heel Michael Cole was being Heel Michael Cole and Henry just pauses for a moment Henry: What did that even have to do with anything? How was that relevant? If you don't have anything intelligent to say then don't say anything. Cole: Yes sir.
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Randaconda posted:Nah, that's was 98, the magazine is during his terrible WCW, but pre-heel turn days. It's cute that you think Hogan only announced he was running for President once.
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Jerusalem posted:Henry's recent appearance on Steve Austin's podcast was really great too, and uhhh, to bring this back to WCW kinda, he talks mad poo poo about Big T! Big T aka Ahmed Johnson you mean? I'm guessing Henry was talking about Ahmed's WWF run, and not his extremely brief run as "Big T of Harlem Heat 2000." I barely remember the latter, as WCW was pretty unwatchable at the time, but from what I remember he was really out of shape by then, had lost any momentum he has when he was Ahmed, and just could not get over at all. I remember he looked pretty bad in the ring by then, couldn't really work the mic, and was in the unfortunate position of being a stand-in for Booker. And then Stevie retired and became a commentator. I remember being surprised by that at the time, wondered if he had a bad injury or something, but actually I just looked it up and it turns out Stevie is 6 years older than his brother Booker, so... yeah that makes sense now. He was in his 40's by then. Anyway, I liked Stevie as a wrestler, thought he was great in Harlem Heat and underrated in the nWo, but being a commentator didn't really work out for him. Big T was pretty bad in WCW, and I didn't watch WWF during his run, but I've heard he looked really promising when he first came in as Ahmed.
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DeathChicken posted:Mark Henry on commentary was wonderful too. There was one time Heel Michael Cole was being Heel Michael Cole and Henry just pauses for a moment That would also be my reaction, tbh
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rujasu posted:Big T was pretty bad in WCW, and I didn't watch WWF during his run, but I've heard he looked really promising when he first came in as Ahmed. He looked promising as long as he didn't have to talk or wrestle. He was sloppy as hell even in his in-shape WWF days.
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rujasu posted:Big T aka Ahmed Johnson you mean? I'm guessing Henry was talking about Ahmed's WWF run, and not his extremely brief run as "Big T of Harlem Heat 2000." I barely remember the latter, as WCW was pretty unwatchable at the time, but from what I remember he was really out of shape by then, had lost any momentum he has when he was Ahmed, and just could not get over at all. I remember he looked pretty bad in the ring by then, couldn't really work the mic, and was in the unfortunate position of being a stand-in for Booker. And then Stevie retired and became a commentator. I remember being surprised by that at the time, wondered if he had a bad injury or something, but actually I just looked it up and it turns out Stevie is 6 years older than his brother Booker, so... yeah that makes sense now. He was in his 40's by then. Anyway, I liked Stevie as a wrestler, thought he was great in Harlem Heat and underrated in the nWo, but being a commentator didn't really work out for him. Booker T was obviously way better than his brother, but I've head several wrestlers say they'd rather work with Stevie since he'd never touch them, and Booker was just knocking the poo poo out of them.
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well that ain't why. booker used to tell the boys he didnt know how to take a shower. and if you wrestled him you had to wash off 3 matches worth of stank afterward. that's why once he got in wwf they did the grocery store brawl and covered him in a bunch of poo poo and he sure learned how to Get wet after that. hash tang squeaky ray
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