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Gunder posted:Do you guys think the Shield Dome (18pts) on the Impulsor is going to be worth taking? Would a transport benefit from a 4+ invuln. save? If you are already taking one, tremendously. At T7 with 11W killing it with small arms fire is going to be miserable, and blunting the anti-tank fire that is the current bane of most Marine vehicles is Very Good. It's a big fat tough vehicle that can jam up fire and assault lanes, and also get your mans from point A to point B very effectively. It's not gonna kill anything, but if you want that take a Repulsor and pony up the extra points. edit: top of page, have a sergeant from last week 
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Cage Kicker posted:Seriously, if you're about to play and your opponent won't let you run your marines as Dark Angels because they're painted like Salamanders, that's not a person worth Hamming with. I don’t really care what rules people use for their home brew successor, but unless you’re just trying out the Dark Angels rules, you should play your Salamanders as Salamanders. Otherwise why did you paint them that way?
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Aug 20, 2019 20:54
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Endman posted:I don’t really care what rules people use for their home brew successor, but unless you’re just trying out the Dark Angels rules, you should play your Salamanders as Salamanders. Otherwise why did you paint them that way? Excuse me sir these necrons are counts as tau and you need to respect that.
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Aug 20, 2019 20:57
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Endman posted:I don’t really care what rules people use for their home brew successor, but unless you’re just trying out the Dark Angels rules, you should play your Salamanders as Salamanders. Otherwise why did you paint them that way? Because you thought Salamanders were cool in the lore and painstaking painted a whole rear end army before you played the game only to find out their rules are not fun but you actually like how Dark Angels play. I'm not gonna make that dude strip and repaint his whole army just so he can have fun playing.
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Aug 20, 2019 20:59
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mango sentinel posted:painstaking painted a whole rear end army before you played the game This has never happened
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Aug 20, 2019 21:00
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"Because you liked bright green more than dark green, you should be forced to spend an extra thousand dollars and 100 hours of painting to play 'marines that like plasma' against me."
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Aug 20, 2019 21:01
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tallkidwithglasses posted:This has never happened I beg to differ!
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Aug 20, 2019 21:01
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dexefiend posted:I beg to differ! How many points did you paint before ever playing a game.
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Aug 20, 2019 21:04
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mango sentinel posted:Because you thought Salamanders were cool in the lore and painstaking painted a whole rear end army before you played the game only to find out their rules are not fun but you actually like how Dark Angels play. I'm not gonna make that dude strip and repaint his whole army just so he can have fun playing. Presumably the character of the rules are based on the lore, so this argument makes no sense. If you cared about Salamanders in the lore so much you’d probably want to use their unique stratagems and not the ones designed to make you feel like you’re playing Dark Angels?
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Aug 20, 2019 21:06
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I think the only unpainted thing I had back when I bothered playing was an IG Commander. And even that was a stand in because I hadn't found or built a cool enough one to use. Army size was like 1200 to 1500 points in this case.
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Aug 20, 2019 21:07
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Floppychop posted:I've never been one to do my own special chapters. I like the idea of doing it as a community type event, like the Chapter challenge
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Cooked Auto posted:I think the only unpainted thing I had back when I bothered playing was an IG Commander. And even that was a stand in because I hadn't found or built a cool enough one to use. Did you paint a full 2000 points before ever playing a game. Edit: lmao good job editing your post dude, I think you just made my point. tallkidwithglasses fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Aug 20, 2019 |
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Aug 20, 2019 21:08
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mango sentinel posted:painstaking painted a whole rear end army before you played the game This is my standard operating procedure 
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Ghazk posted:This is my standard operating procedure Yeah but it takes you like an afternoon, so
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Endman posted:Presumably the character of the rules are based on the lore, so this argument makes no sense. If you cared about Salamanders in the lore so much you’d probably want to use their unique stratagems and not the ones designed to make you feel like you’re playing Dark Angels? Just because you think flamers sound really cool in a book doesn't actually mean you are actually gonna enjoy playing an army where like have the dudes have an 8 inch threat range. Just because you like how a character looks in a fighting game doesn't mean you're gonna like how they play. I'm not saying you should let his Salamanders count as Drukhari, but theres a whole bullshit rainbow of Space Marines and I don't think people should be locked in just because they painted their army a canon color. Your attitude is just encouraging people to play unpainted grey plastic so you can't fault them for deciding to change armies.
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Aug 20, 2019 21:18
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Did you paint a full 2000 points before ever playing a game. I did with my Admech army painted in the Mars scheme. If I decided to play them as Stygies instead of Mars, and someone gave me poo poo about a non-cannon paint scheme, you best bet I'd walk right out of that game. IMO, as long as you have the right models, who cares what colors they are painted. Your opponent painted their models for themselves, not for you.
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mango sentinel posted:Just because you think flamers sound really cool in a book doesn't actually mean you are actually gonna enjoy playing an army where like have the dudes have an 8 inch threat range. Do you really think people wait until they have full sized, fully painted armies before they begin playing games.
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why should army color affect how i must play a game? I am approaching 6235 points of painted Howling Griffons, and I haven't played a game of 40k since 2003. I have never played a game as a Space Marine player. Edit: I intend to play. I will play games at Adepticon. The majority of this painting spree has really just been over the past couple months. Image link: https://i.imgur.com/zvyV5F1.jpg dexefiend fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Aug 20, 2019 |
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Aug 20, 2019 21:27
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dexefiend posted:why should army color affect how i must play a game? Why does it matter to you if you don’t actually play?
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mango sentinel posted:Just because you think flamers sound really cool in a book doesn't actually mean you are actually gonna enjoy playing an army where like have the dudes have an 8 inch threat range. Look, if this incredibly specific and extremely not fake example is true, that person deserves to be forever punished for painting a whole army of Salamanders when they don’t like how flamers work.
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Aug 20, 2019 21:33
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what kind of WAACer takes the field with unpainted miniatures
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This seems to be a fundamental viewpoint to both our groups. One group thinks you should only be able to play Ultramarines if you have blue space marine models. The other group believes that you should be able to play your space marine army how you like.
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Aug 20, 2019 21:39
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If your relics aren't modelled I'm out
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Aug 20, 2019 21:39
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dexefiend posted:This seems to be a fundamental viewpoint to both our groups. I’m actually 100% fine with counts as whatever as long as you explain it ahead of time, it’s just that “this person has absolutely no inkling of how this army might possibly play and managed to paint an entire loving army before rolling a die” is the smoothest brained take I’ve heard in a while. Just cop to the fact you want to use the good rules in order to win, it’s fine, everyone does it.
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This will all make sense once y'all realize that tkwg plays Salamanders AND Dark Angels. 
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Safety Factor posted:This will all make sense once y'all realize that tkwg plays Salamanders AND Dark Angels. They’re all counts as 1k sons, Vulkan is Magnus.
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Flamers have never been good, right? I haven't played since 4.5 and even I can tell they just look like bad bolters from the statline that came in a box of mans i picked up for parts.
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Safety Factor posted:This will all make sense once y'all realize that tkwg plays Salamanders AND Dark Angels. loving rumbled
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Flamers have never been good, right? I haven't played since 4.5 and even I can tell they just look like bad bolters from the statline that came in a box of mans i picked up for parts. Flamers were great when we had templates. 
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I am smooth brained as gently caress.
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dexefiend posted:I am smooth brained as gently caress. Cool, you can run them as Blood Angels and Imperial Fists. (Nice work Fred Reed would be proud)
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 I suddenly need to a pot of Mordant Earth. And then figure out which models I should use the Frozen Methane one for.
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My opinion on the colour scheme thing is that I would never refuse to play a game for that alone, i would mildly judge them for it but as long it is clear what they are doing who cares.
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I can’t remember the current rule: if a unit is in the index and in the codex, are you required to use the codex entry or can you choose which one you want to use?
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Aug 20, 2019 22:57
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I have terrible unfinished model syndrome so I don't play much because I'm ashamed. I'm working on it though. Played more 40k this year than in my entire life I think. Often with primed or three colour models.
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Aug 20, 2019 22:58
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Flamers have never been good, right? I haven't played since 4.5 and even I can tell they just look like bad bolters from the statline that came in a box of mans i picked up for parts. If they’re not good, add more until they become ‘ridiculous’
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OhDearGodNo posted:I can’t remember the current rule: if a unit is in the index and in the codex, are you required to use the codex entry or can you choose which one you want to use? If it's in the codex you have to use that, but if the Index has a wargear option for that unit that isn't in the codex, you can use that option from the Index. 
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OhDearGodNo posted:I can’t remember the current rule: if a unit is in the index and in the codex, are you required to use the codex entry or can you choose which one you want to use?  Edit: Welp
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Thanks for the answer and flowchart, definitely helps when I have 3 books to work with. e: still not sure if a bike counts as war gear.
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OhDearGodNo posted:
Edit: If the unit entry is 'Dude on Bike' then no if the entry is 'Dude' and has "May take a Bike for X" then yes Yeast fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Aug 20, 2019 |
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