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Ehud posted:They write those movies where none of that poo poo matters. Matrix within another Matrix.
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CannonFodder posted:Not sure where the story is going to go. Revolutions ended with Neo and Trinity very dead. they could turn into programs or whatever the terminology is. like the keymaker or the oracle.
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Aug 20, 2019 21:30
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The matrix owns and I hope the 4th is more like the 1st
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Aug 20, 2019 21:31
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Holland is sticking around as Spider-Man at least. https://twitter.com/thomas_polito/status/1163904724422275073?s=20 Venom was better than I thought it would be but there is no way Sony can make a Spider-Man close to what Disney/Marvel did.
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Aug 20, 2019 21:31
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i hope they bring back good paul oakenfold for the soundtrack or orbital/chemical brothers to do a bespoke thing like with the pusher remake or hanna.
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Aug 20, 2019 21:33
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CannonFodder posted:Not sure where the story is going to go. Revolutions ended with Neo and Trinity very dead. The actual ending to Revolutions was Neo, Trinity, and Smith sitting on a beach drinking Bahama Mamas and going "Nah, this is much better."
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Aug 20, 2019 21:33
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Ehud posted:They write those movies where none of that poo poo matters. I can turn my brain off for that stuff, just hand wave it away. I can't hand wave away the ending when the whole point was Neo mourning Trinity and sacrificing himself. Just make 20 more Animatrix shorts. World Record has so much style.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Matrix within another Matrix. I mean, that's what we all thought, but it turned out to not be the case based on what we saw in Revolutions 
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Aug 20, 2019 21:33
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CannonFodder posted:I can turn my brain off for that stuff, just hand wave it away. I can't deal with movies that spend all this time setting up the rules and then break them and don't explain why.
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Aug 20, 2019 21:34
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Leperflesh posted:If you can get past the monumentally stupid premise, and also pretend the other matrix films don't exist, and also get over a couple of the ancillary characters being killed off in really disappointing ways, and also get over the gun porn aspects, and also pretend there's any reason at all for neo and trinity to care for one another, and further accept that Agent Elrond and his sidekick AIs are simultaneously terrifying enemies and incredibly stupid, it's a fun action flick. Show of hands is anyone surprised Leper has a list of grievances about the Matrix storyline Ehud posted:Neo used his Matrix powers in the real world to stop the sentinels and they never explain how or why lol I always just took it to mean Neo's brain acts as a wifi version of the Matrix wandler20 posted:Holland is sticking around as Spider-Man at least. Its gonna be fascinating to see how they de-MCU these movies considering the films are AGGRESSIVELY inter-twined
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Aug 20, 2019 21:37
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 I just turn it off when it's Architect time.
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CannonFodder posted:
Yeah, I think the big problem, for me, with the sequels is that the Wachowskis got too wrapped up in the underlying philosophy of the first film and took what was subtext in the first film and made it explicitly text in the sequels
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Aug 20, 2019 21:39
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Whats the subtext leading to a 45 minute cave rave
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Aug 20, 2019 21:40
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Also, video game talk, Chroma Squad just came out on switch and its a fun indy strategy RPG like FE but you control a bunch of stuntmen in a Power Rangers show
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Aug 20, 2019 21:41
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what's your guys' idea of a perfect or near perfect movie
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OxySnake posted:Hate to see the only decent spiderman in the past 2 decades gets axed because they couldn't make a deal. Spiderverse was better anyways.
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Ehud posted:what's your guys' idea of a perfect or near perfect movie Predator
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Aug 20, 2019 21:41
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They've got better computers now, so at least they can ramp up the action scenes instead of filling it with dumb navel gazing to cover up for how ugly the burly brawl is.
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swickles posted:Watch Disney buy Sony tomorrow just to gently caress with them. they seem ripe for a purchase, imo
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Predator man that's a good one
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"I wish the Spider-Man movies would stop being about cleaning up after Tony Stark!" *a finger curls on the monkey's paw* Mel Mudkiper posted:Its gonna be fascinating to see how they de-MCU these movies considering the films are AGGRESSIVELY inter-twined I think Far From Home gave them a potential angle to de-couple Spider-Man from the rest of the MCU, what with him being publicly outed as Peter Parker. Happy & Co. could just cut ties with him so Stark Industries isn't associated with an international terrorist or whatever they say Spider-Man is now. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Aug 20, 2019 |
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One thing that always struck me about the first Matrix film is that, along with Fight Club, they are explicitly pre-9/11 films. Like, the setpiece action scene of the first film is them just mowing down dozens of innocent people in a mass shooting because they are in the way
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Aug 20, 2019 21:44
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Ehud posted:what's your guys' idea of a perfect or near perfect movie Shawshank Redemption Fargo Spirited Away
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Ehud posted:what's your guys' idea of a perfect or near perfect movie Jurassic Park. The Dark Knight maybe.
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Kalli posted:Shawshank Redemption I could buy this as a perfect film if not for the fact its perfect in everything I loving hate about movies lol
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Ehud posted:what's your guys' idea of a perfect or near perfect movie Spiderverse, Coming to America, and The Last Dragon for varying reasons.
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Ehud posted:what's your guys' idea of a perfect or near perfect movie a lot of road movies, like lost highway/dune/stalker/no country for old men/zodiac the matrix is basically a sci fi setting one of those movies with some action trappings
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Vertical Lime posted:they seem ripe for a purchase, imo Sony is still a gigantic conglomerate and their net income isn't far from Disney's so Disney would have to have a poo poo ton of cash on hand in order to pull that off.
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my absolute favorite scene is the opening to wild at heart
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Terminator 2 is a perfect movie
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Ehud posted:what's your guys' idea of a perfect or near perfect movie L.A. Confidential
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Hot Diggity! posted:Terminator 2 is a perfect movie 
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Oh yeah, Beetlejuice
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Kalli posted:Oh yeah, Beetlejuice Written by Michael McDowell who I will skitter down your wall like the mom in Hereditary to recommend you read
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Show of hands is anyone surprised Leper has a list of grievances about the Matrix storyline I actually really enjoyed The Matrix the first time. The movie asks you to just turn off your brain and enjoy the feeling of going down the rabbit hole. It was stylistically new and I love Keanu. It had a great soundtrack. Hugo Weaving was excellent. It was fine as a movie and I saw it several times. I think the later films retroactively made the first one worse, because they demand that we actually engage with the premise instead of politely ignoring it, which highlights how bad and dumb that premise is. Fleshing out the details of a situation that is inherently stupid is a bad choice. There's a bunch of other specific problems too, but I think that's at the core. They obviously didn't have more movies in mind when they made Matrix and they were not creative enough writers to make up a good story to follow on to a story that already had a perfectly fine conclusion. Basically it's a terrible case of style over substance and filmmakers huffing their own farts, and that style is now badly dated to boot.
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Ehud posted:what's your guys' idea of a perfect or near perfect movie 5th Element is the perfect movie. It's not the best movie, but it's a perfect movie.
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i always rag on it but i'm gonna have to rewatch the matrix 2 and see if the chocolate cake scene stands up to my not quite ironic critique of movies that's recently happened since i watched everything david lynch has done... it's a ridiculous scene but is it interesting now?
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