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Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

It's basically come down to this.

To Black People...

Far Right: gently caress you.
"Moderate" Right: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you're too soft headed and lazy to understand the Dems manipulate you. Please listen to me little dark people.

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Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Crain posted:

gently caress. Clarksburg is right by where my parents live, and where I grew up.

It's also a lovely pop-up development town with no real identity smashed between two actual towns with over half of the homes unsold because the developers decided to make those "55 and up" only for some reason.

I've seen those Maryland "towns"... they're creepy man. Like something that crawled out of Florida.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde

Tubgoat posted:

Is DWTS literally exclusively for PR/image rehab purposes?

yes, its like this in australia too. expect to see a george pell dance number when he’s out on parole

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

:snoo:

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

Kurtofan posted:

what, people have the right to make houses for olds only??

its one of the utmost explicit forms of legal discrimination in housing

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

MizPiz posted:

Why else would it exist?
My alt is posting independently of me! :aaaaa:

Early on I figured it was just because libs love celebrities and dancing and paying money to vote on talent shows, but the names that keep coming up are :thunk:ing me something fierce.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Race Realists posted:

https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1164169295506448384?s=19

*'Meditation' from Edward Artemiev starts playing in the background*

i really wish hollywood treated conservatives the way conservatives think hollywood treats them

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
the Wokes are at it again, part deux

https://twitter.com/ZerlinaMaxwell/status/1163855404968960001?s=19

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
do people even know why they dislike bernie

Serf
May 5, 2011


Blast of Confetti posted:

do people even know why they dislike bernie

he dared to challenge mother

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Blast of Confetti posted:

do people even know why they dislike bernie

They're anti-semites.

NickRoweFillea
Sep 27, 2012

doin thangs

gently caress offffffffffff zerlina

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Blast of Confetti posted:

do people even know why they dislike bernie

They could have been at brunch right now! :mad:

breadshaped
Apr 1, 2010


Soiled Meat
What are unprivileged people going to lose with president bernie sanders

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Bedshaped posted:

What are unprivileged people going to lose with president bernie sanders
their chains.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Blast of Confetti posted:

do people even know why they dislike bernie

In West wing world, the more liberal you are = the better person you are. Having someone flank them on their left makes them freak the gently caress out

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Bedshaped posted:

What are unprivileged people going to lose with president bernie sanders

affordable access to privately run, publicly supported healthcare solutions and coding camps

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Business Gorillas posted:

In West wing world, the more liberal you are = the better person you are. Having someone flank them on their left makes them freak the gently caress out

Reminder that there actually was a Bernie analog on West Wing that was inserted solely to give the Sensible Centrists (king rear end in a top hat Toby, in this particular instance) someone other than Republicans to browbeat and ridicule for his impractical healthcare ideas which We Just Can't Afford Right Now, and though it's revealed he's got sympathetic personal reasons to advocate for single payer we're still supposed to write him off as deluded.

Captain_Maclaine has issued a correction as of 19:51 on Aug 21, 2019

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Blast of Confetti posted:

do people even know why they dislike bernie

they ruthlessly suppress the real reason and invent a bunch of fake ones

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol cool just getting all the nazi salutes and previous assaults prior to the incident on trial taken out of evidence so you can charge someone standing iwth antifa for slapping a neo nazi twice

https://ocweekly.com/white-supremacist-antifa-trump/?fbclid=IwAR31ToLHZ7U6vzzS6FtgD23rPKCPJFzuBW0oGvwU0aRjuir8DEtdKNimixs


quote:

Laube is a member of a combat-ready white-supremacist outfit called Rise Above Movement (RAM), which espouses anti-Jewish conspiracy theories and Nazi dogma about protecting caucasians under the ruse they’re “defending America.” According to an FBI report, he worked with other like-minded activists to incite violence against brown-skinned individuals and produced “white unity” videos. At the aformementioned Make America Great Again (MAGA) rally at Bolsa Chica State Beach in Huntington Beach, he gave the “heil Hitler” salute. He also traveled across the country to participate in the white nationalist’s 2017 melee in Charlottesville, Virginia.

But in People v. Aguilar, which played out in West Court near Little Saigon last week, prosecutor Nikaien repeatedly hailed Laube in absentia as an innocent, nonviolent “victim.” She told jurors he’d come to the rally merely to express political support for Trump and found himself under attack for exercising his constitutional right of free expression. Video shows his group chanted at Aguilar and her group, “gently caress you, bitch,” “Pussy” and “Build that Wall.” They also waved a sign as a symbol proclaiming, “Da Goyim Know,” referring to an international Jewish plot to control the world.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Bedshaped posted:

What are unprivileged people going to lose with president bernie sanders

i don't think she's saying that.

i think she is proceeding under an unstated assumption that bernie would lose to trump if he is the nominee, or perhaps that he was a spoiler that helped trump in 2016 and will again in 2020. these are things a lot of centrist dem types believe esp the ones old enough to be traumatized by the 2000 election

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Reminder that there actually was a Bernie analog on West Wing that was inserted solely to give the Sensible Centrists (king rear end in a top hat Toby, in this particular instance) someone other than Republicans to browbeat and ridicule for his impractical healthcare ideas which We Just Can't Afford Right Now, and though it's revealed he's got sympathetic personal reasons to advocate for single payer we're still supposed to write him off as deluded.

Is this the same guy who threatened to primary Bartlett for considering privatization o social security?

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Crowsbeak posted:

Is this the same guy who threatened to primary Bartlett for considering privatization o social security?

He briefly ran as a third party spoiler candidate.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



literally the only thing I remember from West Wing is that some guy was dying and begged somebody to make the superconducting supercollider happen and it was very touching and then they failed to get it because it would've cost too much for an endeavor that wasn't as certain to be profitable as others and then the episode just, ended

like imaging having the kind of brain that can identify with that and still believe you're the good guys accomplishing good stuff

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Epic High Five posted:

literally the only thing I remember from West Wing is that some guy was dying and begged somebody to make the superconducting supercollider happen and it was very touching and then they failed to get it because it would've cost too much for an endeavor that wasn't as certain to be profitable as others and then the episode just, ended

like imaging having the kind of brain that can identify with that and still believe you're the good guys accomplishing good stuff

There was also a scene where Bartlett basically tells aggrieved labor activists that there's nothing he can do about offshoring and the destruction of the working class (which had supported him and got him into office), citing King Knut's symbolic ordering the tide to not roll in an analogous and they'll just all need to retrain and learn to code or something. This is presented as him being realistic and not a craven betrayer of his own base.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 23 days!)

Nothing tops Bartlett cursing God for claiming the life of his octogenarian secretary.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
re: why Bernie gets crapped on

Jerry Cotton posted:

They're anti-semites.

it's really about half this and half the reflexive hatred of of anything branded ~SOCIALISM~ that a lot of Americans have, especially older ones/rural ones.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Reminder that there actually was a Bernie analog on West Wing that was inserted solely to give the Sensible Centrists (king rear end in a top hat Toby, in this particular instance) someone other than Republicans to browbeat and ridicule for his impractical healthcare ideas which We Just Can't Afford Right Now, and though it's revealed he's got sympathetic personal reasons to advocate for single payer we're still supposed to write him off as deluded.

I think Dem centrism needs a face, and I think that face is Aaron Sorkin.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Grape posted:

I think Dem centrism needs a face, and I think that face is Aaron Sorkin.

Way ahead of you

quote:

Its absurdity notwithstanding, the West Wing creator’s patronizing intervention is yet a further illustration of how deeply embedded the discredited politics of the 1990s remain in the liberal imagination, even — especially — amid the ongoing nightmare of the Trump presidency. In no more than thirty seconds, Sorkin’s flourish managed to evoke virtually everything wrong with DNC liberalism in the twenty-first century: from its reflexive condescension toward the young and the vulnerable (note the pejorative reference to “transgender bathrooms”) to the various ways it fetishizes personality over program, delights in punching left, and elevates intelligence over ideology.

Indeed, just like the real-world liberalism it has channeled and shaped, Sorkin’s politics have always been concerned more with aesthetics than any specific or programmatic impulse towards reform. The West Wing universe, after all, is one in which an idyllic, two-term liberal presidency warmly embraces the military-industrial complex, cuts Social Security, and puts a hard-right justice on the Supreme Court in the interests of bipartisan “balance” — all the while making no observably transformative changes to American life. What matters most is how politics look and feel and whether the briskly striding people who staff the corridors of power possess diplomas from the right schools. Idealism, such as it is, has more to do with an abstract faith in American institutions and their inherent greatness (as in, “America is already great”) than any particular desire to make the world a better place or see a coherent set of values reflected within them. In Sorkin’s parochial fantasy, politics at its noblest and most high-minded consists mainly of wonkish sophistry and elegantly crafted speeches designed to offer vague comfort while saying nothing.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
Boomer Dems are so loving bitchmade, they got beat around by Ronnie and have acted defeated ever since. Even in victory.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Nothing tops Bartlett cursing God for claiming the life of his octogenarian secretary.

Lol, maybe i should watch the west wing, it sounds like a comedy

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Kurtofan posted:

Lol, maybe i should watch the west wing, it sounds like a comedy

It's a lot easier to watch if you treat it as a very dark satire of liberal presumptions, yes.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
Millennial Dems: Hey let's try and actually go for this policy.

Boomer Dems: NOOO NOOO PRECIOUS, THE ELEPHANTSIS IS ALWAYS WATCHINGS US, ALWAYS CRAFTY AND ANGRY ELEPHANT IS, MUST LAY LOW AND CREEPSING TO THE GROUND. :manning:

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Also because a lot of the ones who hold all power and influence now got disgustingly rich during the years of selling out and shifting to controlled opposition status

Pelosi alone is worth over 100 million

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Nothing tops Bartlett cursing God for claiming the life of his octogenarian secretary.

lol

does he scream about her not getting to enjoy retirement, something he obviously had no control over?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




yeah, it's brain poison

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Sorkin's perfect president lecturing a bunch of toothless hayseeds in a season finale set piece, making allusions to long dead Pharaohs and Shakespearean asides in defense of his overall theme that they need to die so that this fancy dinner party is no longer plagued by their presence, as every pair of hayseed eyes start growing redder and redder

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Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Grape posted:

Boomer Dems are so loving bitchmade, they got beat around by Ronnie and have acted defeated ever since. Even in victory.

srsly dem strategy since Reagan has boiled down to OH WELL, BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME AMIRITE??

top to bottom, it's really blatant in retrospect

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