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| Joe Biden, the Klansman |
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8 | 0.91% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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578 | 65.76% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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185 | 21.05% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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4 | 0.46% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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0 | 0% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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3 | 0.34% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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3 | 0.34% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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9 | 1.02% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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2 | 0.23% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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4 | 0.46% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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19 | 2.16% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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19 | 2.16% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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8 | 0.91% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.11% |
| Just like in real life, nobody voted for Hickenlooper |
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2 | 0.23% |
| Jeffrey Epstein, the MCC Most Hated |
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9 | 1.02% |
| KKKillary KKKlinton |
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16 | 1.82% |
| Some other idiot not in this list |
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9 | 1.02% |
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Breakfast All Day posted:Stein supported M4A and GND. And whooping cough
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At the end of the day maybe the Hillary campaign and its surrogates shouldn't have spent months signalling to everyone with reservations about her that they weren't loving needed and had the election well in hand without them.
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Aug 22, 2019 01:07
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Breakfast All Day posted:Stein supported M4A and GND. Yeah but she didn't want to nuke Moscow so she hates America or something
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Aug 22, 2019 01:08
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I think the voters who share the biggest blame for Trump that arent Trump voters are the Dem superdelegates, who, despite having the one job of overriding the party's mass of voters when they select an unelectable fringe candidate and installing a runner-up with much broader appeal to people outside the party and the ability to win over swing voters, failed to do so when that situation appeared
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Aug 22, 2019 01:13
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VitalSigns posted:Reminder that Hillary campaigned for Trump in the Republican primary because her team thought she stood a better chance of getting elected by holding minorities hostage with the threat of death camps. That's damning. This is completely loving wrong. If every single Stein voter had voted Clinton instead in three states then Clinton would be president. Michigan: https://mielections.us/election/results/2016GEN_CENR.html Pennsylvania: https://web.archive.org/web/2016122...pe=G&IsActive=1 Wisconsin: https://elections.wi.gov/sites/default/files/County%20by%20County%20Report%20President%20of%20the%20United%20States%20Recount.pdf
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Aug 22, 2019 01:15
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I always love looking at these because it's a reminder that Dat Gary is the only reason Clinton didn't lose harder.
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Aug 22, 2019 01:18
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e: not the thread for this, nevermind
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Aug 22, 2019 01:19
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Eminai posted:This is completely loving wrong. If every single Stein voter had voted Clinton instead in three states then Clinton would be president. Maybe the Dems should run someone who appeals to those voters next time
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Aug 22, 2019 01:19
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Oh Snapple! posted:At the end of the day maybe the Hillary campaign and its surrogates shouldn't have spent months signalling to everyone with reservations about her that they weren't loving needed and had the election well in hand without them. Weird how the person who kept an enemies list of Democrats who didn't support her enough to avenge herself on had trouble unifying the party behind her. This is why Bernie is our only hope at smashing Republican dominance in this country. He's the only one trying to build an inclusive movement instead of pursuing a short-sighted divide and conquer strategy
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Aug 22, 2019 01:19
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so..... you guys are aware that this is the dnc primary thread, not "lets rehash 2016 and cry about third party voters thread" right?
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Aug 22, 2019 01:20
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e: not the thread for this, nevermind, Condiv is right.
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Aug 22, 2019 01:21
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Eminai posted:This is completely loving wrong. If every single Stein voter had voted Clinton instead in three states then Clinton would be president. And if every single Johnson voter had voted Trump in addition to Hillary getting all Stein voters, then Hillary would have lost those three states by even bigger margins and would have also lost minnesota, maine, nevada (where stein was not on the ballot), and new hampshire.
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Aug 22, 2019 01:22
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That dumb rear end libertarian who didn’t know Aleppo was a place got more votes than stein. Also Biden’s criminal justice plan is going to be hilariously bad. Nonsense fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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Aug 22, 2019 01:25
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I bumped the protest voting thread so you guys can argue about whether or not voting third party is evil in there
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Aug 22, 2019 01:26
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https://twitter.com/julito77/status/1164178012176302080
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Aug 22, 2019 01:26
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Eminai posted:This is completely loving wrong. If every single Stein voter had voted Clinton instead in three states then Clinton would be president. Ah you're right, I misremembered, I was thinking of the analysis that showed third-party voters didn't change the outcome, because if every Stein voter had voted Hillary and every Johnson voter had voted for Trump the outcome would have been the same. But you're right, flipping Stein voters alone would have done it after all, I guess we'd better find a candidate who can bring them into the Democratic Party this time around, and the primary thread is the perfect place to figure out who that might be!
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Aug 22, 2019 01:26
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The last time Joe Biden was asked this question he openly said "How dare you ask questions about my politics while working as the Vice President of the United States of America?".
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Aug 22, 2019 01:28
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VitalSigns posted:Ah you're right, I misremembered, I was thinking of the analysis that showed third-party voters didn't change the outcome, because if every Stein voter had voted Hillary and every Johnson voter had voted for Trump the outcome would have been the same. Yeah, or build enough support that less than 100,000 voters in three states don't swing the election. Perhaps by supporting strong pro-worker policies and appealing to people outside the typical voter pool, or just by being the actual guy who won the primary in two of those three states.
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Aug 22, 2019 01:54
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Biden has made clear that criticism of him is critcism of Obama. It's a smart strategy since the other Dems are scared of being accused of criticizing Obama, and since we all know Biden is the most electable candidate, this strategy will definitely work even better against Trump, who will similarly be scared away from criticizing Biden
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Aug 22, 2019 01:55
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:don't deradicalize again, this time Don't be weird. Bernie's been my pick for the whole primary.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:04
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twodot posted:The last time Joe Biden was asked this question he openly said "How dare you ask questions about my politics while working as the Vice President of the United States of America?". Everything you like about Obama; remember Joe was there and probably actually came up with the idea if you think about it. Everything you hate about Obama; remember Joe was a powerless prisoner of circumstance, crying the right answer into the wind.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:06
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It is good to hold Bernie to account so that weirdo attacks from former Clinton staffers just roll off him rather than stick.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:08
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Inslee quits
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Aug 22, 2019 02:11
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AsInHowe posted:Inslee quits https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1164344160217944067
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Aug 22, 2019 02:12
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Oh Snapple! posted:At the end of the day maybe the Hillary campaign and its surrogates shouldn't have spent months signalling to everyone with reservations about her that they weren't loving needed and had the election well in hand without them. What do you mean, signaling? They were telling us that directly.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:12
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that's a bummer. although i feel like he wasn't that effective in the first two debates anyway
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Aug 22, 2019 02:13
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They'll put Steyer in for sure now.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:13
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For a guy going all in on the Climate Emergency angle, he certainly didn't seem to be exactly full of fire and brimstone on the debate stage. Or at all.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:17
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nate silver continues to Piss Me Off https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1164345330982371328?s=20
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goethe.cx posted:nate silver continues to Piss Me Off Inslee is from WA state, which might as well be the moon as far as DC is concerned. He's a white boomer man in an ever-diversifying Democratic field. He has no base. He's perfectly FINE in his role, and probably has completed his name-recognition-gathering mission for a cabinet level post (maybe even VP for a theoretical Harris ticket), but ultimately this was not a repudiation of ANYTHING regarding what the Dem electorate wants policy-wise. If anything, his answer that Trump was the greatest threat to the country suggests the opposite, that he didn't stump for his issue ENOUGH when given a public forum.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:31
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Insley had no chance when he hosed over his own gimmick by saying trump was the biggest threat to America instead of climate change. I mean he BASICALLY had no chance even before that but that meant even people who just wanted a climate change candidate on the debate stage had no reason to bother donating.
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Pander posted:Inslee is from WA state, which might as well be the moon as far as DC is concerned. He's a white boomer man in an ever-diversifying Democratic field. If I wanted to create in a lab the platonic ideal of the person that Harris would theoretically select as her VP it would he buttigieg
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goethe.cx posted:nate silver continues to Piss Me Off Weird how Hickenlooper suspending his campaign despite his intense focus on stopping Green New Deal and Medicare For All isn't a "data point" showing that the electorate isn't motivated by stopping those things
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Aug 22, 2019 02:42
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rest in piss bae inslee, the man who couldn't even put together a radical agenda for his single issue
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Aug 22, 2019 03:00
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Inslee is one of those safe, socially progressive white guys that would've been good presidential material 20 years ago. Right place, wrong time. And like a safe pick does, he didn't endorse anyone specific on his way out. I hope someone socialist shows up in the governor's race so I can kick him out of the governor's seat too.
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Aug 22, 2019 03:13
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More like Outslee
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Nonsense posted:They'll put Steyer in for sure now. Good, in that we'll get two nights of debate with only like 5 or so candidates per night. Bad, in that they're still going to keep Warren and Biden apart.
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Aug 22, 2019 03:16
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Gyges posted:Good, in that we'll get two nights of debate with only like 5 or so candidates per night. Bad, in that they're still going to keep Warren and Biden apart. Nah, they'll put Warren and Biden together. Think of the ratings! They'll hype the poo poo out of that night. Warren and Biden: Bad Blood. Or something like that.
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Aug 22, 2019 03:19
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That's a shame. He had some really exceptional plans to address the climate crisis and, while he wasn't my first or second choice, I thought he had a better reason to be on stage than most of the other dozen identical white dudes. At least he shifted the debate a bit and got MSNBC and CNN to organize a climate change townhall. (I suspect part of the reason behind him dropping out is that he didn't look likely to qualify for it, let alone the upcoming debates.) Hopefully the nominee strip mines some of his climate policies for the general.
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VitalSigns posted:Reminder that Hillary campaigned for Trump in the Republican primary because her team thought she stood a better chance of getting elected by holding minorities hostage with the threat of death camps. That's damning. Would have been enough to flip Wisconsin and Michigan, but not Pennsylvania, so Trump still would have won. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/308353-trump-won-by-smaller-margin-than-stein-votes-in-all-three
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