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poparena
Oct 31, 2012

Ghostlight posted:

I mean, he started in fanfiction.

He will be the first to tell you you're confusing your terms and the modern idea of fanfiction is bullshit.

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buddhist nudist
May 16, 2019

Even in that link, GRRM only takes umbrage with fanworks when the creators make money that could have been given to him or his corporate partners (nobody tell him about all the artists who make money with fanart commissions or patreon bux)

buddhist nudist fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Aug 22, 2019

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


The best fanfic is still that one where Harry Potter saws Dobby in half with his literal chainsaw dick

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

buddhist nudist posted:

Even in that link, GRRM only takes umbrage with fanworks when the creators make money that could have been given to him or his corporate partners.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are are a thousand better fanfic sequels to A Dance with Dragons than the poo poo he authorized D&D to do.

Also how's Winds of Winter doing, successful author man? :nallears:

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Augus posted:

The best fanfic is still that one where Harry Potter saws Dobby in half with his literal chainsaw dick

Isn't that one called 32H or something because the original title spelled Harry's name with 32 H's?

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

The only good fanfic are Hans Von Hozel's

buddhist nudist
May 16, 2019

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Also how's Winds of Winter doing, successful author man? :nallears:

Why do you think he's against other writers working in his space?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

buddhist nudist posted:

Why do you think he's against other writers working in his space?

Copyright should expire within 5-10 years, never renewed, so people can either poo poo or get off the pot.

Siselmo
Jun 16, 2013

hey there

Augus posted:

The best fanfic is still that one where Harry Potter saws Dobby in half with his literal chainsaw dick

Fair enough

https://archiveofourown.org/works/8613352

https://archiveofourown.org/works/2080878

This two are up there, tho.

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
The idw transformers author who introduced many cool world building concepts but was mostly known for canonizing the idea of "gay married transformers" that has had chuds crying and sobbing to this very day, months since the continuity he wrote for ended and a a reboot was launched, came from British transformers fanfic circles and hadn't really written anything else.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

You all know that this is the best fanfiction ever. Nothing else even comes close. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6204352/1/Jesus-Goes-To-Space

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
People unironically reccing avengers fanfics good loving god lmao

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
Metastasized corporate culture children cartoon but it has death and sex in it, as interpreted by 14 year old. *the wallet of every person in the room flies out like its magnetized*

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011

ArfJason posted:

Metastasized corporate culture children cartoon but it has death and sex in it, as interpreted by 14 year old. *the wallet of every person in the room flies out like its magnetized*

...You do realize that people write this for free, right? I'm not saying that writing fanfiction is some radical anti-captialist act, but pal, it's free consumption of art that by function can't be monitized. Barring some interesting things going on with people having tip jars up on their tumblr for their fanfic, ( and maybe patreon? ) - which the biggest, best archive won't let you advertise that you have such things.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



The guy who wrote Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality used it to found a cult, become fantastically rich, and get a live in sex slave.

buddhist nudist
May 16, 2019
Back in my day, people only used wholesome literature like the bible to build their cults.

Miss Wallace
Feb 24, 2013

The nights will never be the same. ARARARAR!
If I may offer my own rec for the greatest fic:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3117121/1/Colliding-Destinies

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
God, I remember the days when crazy fanfic authors revealed themselves to be goons trolling people rather than cult leaders.

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

Twincityhacker posted:

...You do realize that people write this for free, right? I'm not saying that writing fanfiction is some radical anti-captialist act, but pal, it's free consumption of art that by function can't be monitized. Barring some interesting things going on with people having tip jars up on their tumblr for their fanfic, ( and maybe patreon? ) - which the biggest, best archive won't let you advertise that you have such things.

So is the "MY WALLET" meme so endemic to places i visit or what cause i cant envision any other scenario where someone would take it this literally.

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
(For the record yes im aware)

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

nine-gear crow posted:

God, I remember the days when crazy fanfic authors revealed themselves to be goons trolling people rather than cult leaders.

Wasn't that the case with the Half Life: Full Life Consequences guy?

Evidently that one is a classic and everyone should watch the Gmod series narrating it

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

Terrible Opinions posted:

The guy who wrote Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality used it to found a cult, become fantastically rich, and get a live in sex slave.

Time to write some fanfiction, I guess.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



There was another big harry potter fanfic cult, around Dumbledore's Army. That one actually has an atrocity guide episode made about it's writer.

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

Arcsquad12 posted:

Wasn't that the case with the Half Life: Full Life Consequences guy?

Evidently that one is a classic and everyone should watch the Gmod series narrating it

Yeah squirrelking was a goon.
Peter chimaera, behind the classic "no john you are the demons", tried to sell some history fanfics and the fact that noone remembers/gives a poo poo gives me an idea of how memorable they must have been

Miss Wallace
Feb 24, 2013

The nights will never be the same. ARARARAR!

ArfJason posted:

Yeah squirrelking was a goon.
Peter chimaera, behind the classic "no john you are the demons", tried to sell some history fanfics and the fact that noone remembers/gives a poo poo gives me an idea of how memorable they must have been

Fun fact: Peter Chimaera is Tom White from Weird Video Games. :) I think it’s safe to say that because he’s pretty open about it lol

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

ArfJason posted:

Yeah squirrelking was a goon.
Peter chimaera, behind the classic "no john you are the demons", tried to sell some history fanfics and the fact that noone remembers/gives a poo poo gives me an idea of how memorable they must have been

Miss Wallace posted:

Fun fact: Peter Chimaera is Tom White from Weird Video Games. :) I think it’s safe to say that because he’s pretty open about it lol

Yeah, both Peter Chimaera and squirrelking were goons. One of them revealing themself inspired the other to follow.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Miss Wallace posted:

Fun fact: Peter Chimaera is Tom White from Weird Video Games. :) I think it’s safe to say that because he’s pretty open about it lol

Life is a lie.

FoldableHuman
Mar 26, 2017

Arcsquad12 posted:

Isn't that one called 32H or something because the original title spelled Harry's name with 32 H's?

Well, yah, because his name has to look like his chainsaw dick. How else would you indicate chainsaw-dick Harry Potter?

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


The Wheel of Time suffered from a bloated slump to the extent that the original author died three-quarters of the way through its life-cycle. But after 23 years it was finally ended.

ASOIAF also has taken 23 years and yet it's nowhere near done and its TV show got mocked when it ran out of book to cover. I can't really stomach GRRM anymore because he hasn't written a fun book in 20 years.

x1o
Aug 5, 2005

My focus is UNPARALLELED!
Fanfiction is cool, congrats to Ao3

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007

I guess I can understand why some people write fanfic, even though I hate the stuff, but why give it a Hugo? What’s next; are the Oscars going to start giving out awards to porn parody studios?

Speaking personally, my ambition is to get a book published, but I’ve always been horrified by the thought of someone else writing in my world or with my characters. It’s like having someone break into your house and kick over all your furniture, especially if they add smut to something that didn’t have it originally. I suspect a lot of writers feel the same way, even if most of them don't want to say it outright in case they piss off fans and lose sales.

Red Metal
Oct 23, 2012

Let me tell you about Homestuck

Fun Shoe

Bakeneko posted:

I guess I can understand why some people write fanfic, even though I hate the stuff, but why give it a Hugo? What’s next; are the Oscars going to start giving out awards to porn parody studios?

Speaking personally, my ambition is to get a book published, but I’ve always been horrified by the thought of someone else writing in my world or with my characters. It’s like having someone break into your house and kick over all your furniture, especially if they add smut to something that didn’t have it originally. I suspect a lot of writers feel the same way, even if most of them don't want to say it outright in case they piss off fans and lose sales.

FoldableHuman posted:

Good documentary lost to exemplary library science in the field of preserving a vast collection of outsider and amateur art.

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011

Bakeneko posted:

Speaking personally, my ambition is to get a book published, but I’ve always been horrified by the thought of someone else writing in my world or with my characters. It’s like having someone break into your house and kick over all your furniture, especially if they add smut to something that didn’t have it originally. I suspect a lot of writers feel the same way, even if most of them don't want to say it outright in case they piss off fans and lose sales.

Speaking your story into the world makes your story exist inside other people besides yourself. So people are going to change the metaphorical carpret by just reading it and imaging what the charecters look like, let alone more radical interpretations of things.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Bakeneko posted:

What’s next; are the Oscars going to start giving out awards to porn parody studios?

We can only hope

The Laygo Movie deserves it

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Bakeneko posted:

I guess I can understand why some people write fanfic, even though I hate the stuff, but why give it a Hugo? What’s next; are the Oscars going to start giving out awards to porn parody studios?

Speaking personally, my ambition is to get a book published, but I’ve always been horrified by the thought of someone else writing in my world or with my characters. It’s like having someone break into your house and kick over all your furniture, especially if they add smut to something that didn’t have it originally. I suspect a lot of writers feel the same way, even if most of them don't want to say it outright in case they piss off fans and lose sales.

Reminder The hugo is for the website itself, the archiving and storage methodlogy that allows things to be collected, curated and managed in an acessible way. Regardless of how you think of fanfic itself (which, gently caress off), the website itself is a marvel for collecting and storing work that would otherwise be lost to time.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

So what does Archive of Our Own do better than other fanfic sites?

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Bakeneko posted:

What’s next; are the Oscars going to start giving out awards to porn parody studios?
No, primarily because they're a shallow scam to prop up Hollywood prestige.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Inspector Gesicht posted:

The Wheel of Time suffered from a bloated slump to the extent that the original author died three-quarters of the way through its life-cycle. But after 23 years it was finally ended.

Yeah, the longest gap in WoT's release schedule was 4 years and that was when Jordan died and Sanderson took over.

Bakeneko posted:

I guess I can understand why some people write fanfic, even though I hate the stuff, but why give it a Hugo? What’s next; are the Oscars going to start giving out awards to porn parody studios?
It won for Best Related Work, which has previously included things like writer podcasts, encyclopedias about sci-fi, and various essay collections.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

super sweet best pal posted:

So what does Archive of Our Own do better than other fanfic sites?

The (I believe) dynamic tagging system alone is a pretty elegant solution

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Spark That Bled
Jan 29, 2010

Hungry for responsibility. Horny for teamwork.

And ready to
BUST A NUT
up in this job!

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

super sweet best pal posted:

So what does Archive of Our Own do better than other fanfic sites?

Well, they haven't purged their site of explicit fanfics even once, for a start.

You can say what you want about the quality, but that has to be a notable quality in this age.

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