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FYI in case you missed it, the change to AA priority sectors and Manual AA earlier this week has severely reduced the AA capabilities of every ship. Now is a good time to play CV if that’s your kink. Powerful AA cruisers like Minotaur are still alright, but all BB’s are helpless solo and poor DD’s got absolutely ratfucked.
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Also FYI, free commander respecs until 29th. You need to activate it from the Weekend Highlights article (link to EU): https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/weekend-highlights-23-08-2019/
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Preechr posted:FYI in case you missed it, the change to AA priority sectors and Manual AA earlier this week has severely reduced the AA capabilities of every ship. Now is a good time to play CV if that’s your kink. Powerful AA cruisers like Minotaur are still alright, but all BB’s are helpless solo and poor DD’s got absolutely ratfucked. My experience has been entirely the opposite of this
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NTRabbit posted:My experience has been entirely the opposite of this NTRabbit posted:entirely the opposite
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Preechr posted:FYI in case you missed it, the change to AA priority sectors and Manual AA earlier this week has severely reduced the AA capabilities of every ship. Now is a good time to play CV if that’s your kink. Powerful AA cruisers like Minotaur are still alright, but all BB’s are helpless solo and poor DD’s got absolutely ratfucked. It truly was a great idea to do this at the same time they released a DD line without smoke, 10/10 my smoldering French rear end would patch again
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In that I have found AA to be stronger than it was immediately before the change, obviously AA cruisers are not now weaker
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NTRabbit posted:In that I have found AA to be stronger than it was immediately before the change, obviously AA cruisers are not now weaker Hahahahahha
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Aug 24, 2019 20:06
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New not at all overpowered and extremely well balanced cruiser Smolensk has excellent AA!!!
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My baseline for a bad CV game is like 50K with this new update. I feel like I lose a touch more planes but the amount of damage I get in exchange is worth it. DDs especially have no chance now.
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Lunsku posted:Also FYI, free commander respecs until 29th. You need to activate it from the Weekend Highlights article (link to EU): NA link? I can't find it. Also, free stuff: https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/general-news/our-bad/
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Aug 25, 2019 01:54
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It really feels like DDs get monster dunked on right now. Especially French dds, garbage AA and no smoke? Fun times! For other ships, the change to AA zones let’s me get a big initial burst on them, if they don’t dodge well they are just gone. But, it’s always hard to tell if my AA shot them down because they are bad or unlucky.
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Aug 25, 2019 01:57
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On a scale from "completely" to "superfucking ultramega", how overpowered is the Bismarck so tha tthe entire enemy team is turning to focus me down the splitsecond i am located? Im seriously, ive had 3 battles so far and in every single one of them the entire flank ignored everything that wasnt me until i was dead.
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Aug 25, 2019 21:22
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Yolomon Wayne posted:On a scale from "completely" to "superfucking ultramega", how overpowered is the Bismarck so tha tthe entire enemy team is turning to focus me down the splitsecond i am located? It's not that you're overpowered, it's that you're a good source of full pens for people shooting AP at you.
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Aug 25, 2019 21:31
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Yolomon Wayne posted:On a scale from "completely" to "superfucking ultramega", how overpowered is the Bismarck so tha tthe entire enemy team is turning to focus me down the splitsecond i am located? "Not overpowered" People are shooting you because it's easy to farm damage on a Bismarck.
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Aug 25, 2019 21:34
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Same thing as everyone stopping what they're doing to shoot a Pensacola. It's an xp pinata.
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Aug 25, 2019 21:51
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Also every CV with AP bombers is going to farm you relentlessly because your cursed turtleback magnetically attracts AP bomb citadels.
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Aug 25, 2019 22:42
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And your effective combat distance means you will likely be the closest BB to shoot at.
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I want to boatse. and maybe even get some steel in clan wars because I can't climb past rank 10
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I figured it was something like that, but i was taken aback at the sheer amount of mindless focussing that was going on. Not that anyone on my team would have taken advantage of not being shot at to shoot back of course, they all just went "phew, glad its not me" and went on doing nothing. How do i get at least one halfway satisfying game in that thing?
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Aug 26, 2019 08:05
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Also the closer a Bismarck gets the more dangerous it is
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Yolomon Wayne posted:I figured it was something like that, but i was taken aback at the sheer amount of mindless focussing that was going on. Use islands and concealment. You've got the German 5km gently caress-you-smolbote hydro which is easy mode for hunting DDs who buy into the idea that BBs are prey in archipelagos (heeheehee DD drivers are so dumb sometimes). Fire over cover, duck behind an island and stop when you need to repair, sail closer and melt things with your obscene secondary armament. As it moves towards midgame you'll have more opportunities to brawl either from the enemy advancing into you or to charge down fleeing remnants, or you'll have worked your way down an island chain and can pop out in a flanking position. If you're getting melted like a cruiser, play more like a cruiser.
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Suits me fine, i like brawling a lot more than snipey-hidey. Id just need o get close enough, and judging from what ive seen, ill prolly be the only ship closer than 22km to the enemy. But ill give it a try.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Suits me fine, i like brawling a lot more than snipey-hidey. German battleships are top candidates for the ram flag 
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The bismarck feels like its gotten creeped by just general additions and changes to the game. That being said i usually try to hang around 14-16 km from enemies for the first half or so of the round. Ideally i will try to position myself between the enemy and friendly dds but close enough to the dds to support them but also with room to retreat if things ho sideways. Basically its secondaries are really only good once the enemy has been thinned out a bit. Going in full tilt to secondary right at the beginning is a nixe trip to the port screen.
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Aug 26, 2019 15:45
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Bismark was never really good compared to either of the original T8 BBs though. Fewer lower caliber more inaccurate main guns than either Amagi or NC, secondaries that do very little other than looking really cool, and an armor scheme that ensures you eat big pen damage even if you avoid actual citadels.
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What ship has the best secondaries?
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celewign posted:What ship has the best secondaries? Technically, Graf Zeppelin. In actuality, probably Massachusetts/Georgia, and GK.
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GKurfurst is probably technically the best, as it's the only ship that can get pen high enough to go through 32mm T8+ BB plating. Alsace and Republique have more higher RoF secondaries, but they're arranged oddly in some cases. Their fire chance is better than the Germans. The Mass/Georgia/Ohio US line have the most accurate secondaries, with similar range to the others. They're still only 127mm guns though, so they can pen at most 26mm plating. e: the special US BBs get a decent bonus for secondary use, because US BBs don't get a dispersion mod in the third upgrade slot. They get the better disperson mod in the T9 sixth slot, so they can maintain good main gun accuracy while also using the secondary mod in slot 3.
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I think the nazis have the best secondaries, the innate HE penetration bonus lets them damage things that aren't DDs without spending literally all your commander points (only almost all) on buffing the bad AI controlled guns. Gneisenau I think has the 128 mm guns which can damage tier 7 battleships without IFHE, but then you would have to play the Gneisenau  In reality I think the best way to play a secondary ship is probably the Georgia, the base ship is overpowered so you don't end up as bad by spending all your commander points buffing the bad AI controlled guns. edit: also the Germans have poo poo gun accuracy and on top of that you have to give up the slot 3 gun accuracy mod for secondary range, while the Georgia has Alaska gun accuracy for reasons and you have no option for a gun accuracy mod in slot 3 in the first place. James Garfield fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Aug 26, 2019 |
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Oh my god I am up to the Acasta and I hate it's stupid catapults it calls guns so much! Does it get better or should I just accept the line is not for me and stop grinding it?
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Noir89 posted:Oh my god I am up to the Acasta and I hate it's stupid catapults it calls guns so much! Does it get better or should I just accept the line is not for me and stop grinding it? Icarus and Jervis have the same catapults, but Icarus has usable torpedoes (it's still bad) and Jervis has six guns (it's fine). Tier 8-10 are really good.
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i'm really enjoying the pan asian line. i get bored quickly and the fact that each ship is totally different makes them very interesting. i'm at the fushun.
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Can’t they also limit subs per team like cvs? If there is only 1 sub per team but 3-4 dd per team it would hopefully mitigate the issue.
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I deleted a full health Smolensk using a spotter plane on his smoke. From 20km. In an F D loving G. Feels good, man.
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celewign posted:i'm really enjoying the pan asian line. i get bored quickly and the fact that each ship is totally different makes them very interesting. i'm at the fushun. The Gadjah is a great place to stop. Its a strong ship for its tier, but the rest of the line is kinda meh versions of US DD's. 0/5 in the Guepard so far, simply can't carry games hard enough. Playing a ship that gets poo poo on by carriers in a tier where you see double carriers is just a waste of time. CitizenKain fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Aug 27, 2019 |
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CitizenKain posted:The Gadjah is a great place to stop. Its a strong ship for its tier, but the rest of the line is kinda meh versions of US DD's. On the Jag, can research the Geupard, but honestly the French DDs haven't clicked with me. What are they supposed to be? I know Mogador is a gunboat monster. But before that, should I be stealth torping?
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So French dds play kind of like Soviet gunboat dds. Tool around burning battleships and speed tanking, torping when you can. The Jaguar and Gepard can get decent damage scores but can’t really carry games because of the playstyle. I’m not past that in the line yet, but the Mogador does well rushing smoke and blapping dds among other things.
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Guepard and Jag can ambush as well, they're still faster than the other DDs at tier I believe. Spend early game establishing a flank and harassing, then go dark and put yourself speeding head on toward where you see an enemy DD is going to. Make sure MBRB is available, as soon as you face check them, turn out and MBRB. You will cripple or kill most same tier DDs this way.
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toadee posted:Guepard and Jag can ambush as well, they're still faster than the other DDs at tier I believe. Spend early game establishing a flank and harassing, then go dark and put yourself speeding head on toward where you see an enemy DD is going to. Make sure MBRB is available, as soon as you face check them, turn out and MBRB. You will cripple or kill most same tier DDs this way. They’re not faster. At tier 7 the Minsk is 43 kn base, Vaquelin is 36 base. The Minsk is admittedly an anomaly, but they play very similarly. Just Minsk gets smoke.
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