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ManSedan posted:This arc has been great so far but oh boy I’m confused. I have questions, but I’ll start with a simple one. the wiki has all of that
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ManSedan posted:This arc has been great so far but oh boy I’m confused. I have questions, but I’ll start with a simple one. There's 3 grades: supreme > excellent > good. I believe Mihawk is the only supreme grade we've seen so far, and there hasn't really been much mention of sword grades thru the series besides Zoro obtaining ones. Zoro has 2 excellent blades: his childhood friend's blade and the samurai sword; and a good blade: kitetsu III. Smoker's sidekick also has a good blade.
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Aug 23, 2019 23:47
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ManSedan posted:This arc has been great so far but oh boy I’m confused. I have questions, but I’ll start with a simple one. https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Meito basically there are different "grades" of swords depending on who crafted them or some poo poo. generally you'd believe that a higher grade swords is necessarily stronger but as we know frmo the manga the skill of the swordsman is way more important, it only augments whats already there. zoro is currently chasing back the sword he won in the duel against ryuma on thriller bark. ryuma is a legendary swordsman from wano who somehow died and his shadow ended up in a zombie that moria had. zoro beat him and got his sword but the people of wano believe him to be a thief of it because obviously they dont know the story. the number of swords in each grade is, i think, pretty arbitrary. we know of at least three of the "supreme" grade swords which are 1. mihawks big rear end sword, 2. whitebeards glaive and 3. the "shodai kitetsu" . of these, the kitetsu is part of a series of swords that got worse with each iteration (though still apparently pretty good). they're all said to be "cursed" swords for whatever reason. luffy currently has a lower grade brother of this sword that he stole from the big nose guy. one of zoro's other swords (the cursed one he threw in the air to test his luck against) is part of this series as well
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Aug 23, 2019 23:53
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Apparently whitebeards naginata was a grade 1
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Aug 23, 2019 23:53
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the grade system is interesting and weird though, because according to mihawk and what we now know, any sword can be a "black blade" through repeated haki infusion. i imagine zoro's sword from his dead stairs girl will eventually be considered "supreme" or whatever
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Aug 23, 2019 23:57
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So, like, what does Big Mom's hat-sword qualify as, and would his feelings be hurt if someone told him he wasn't grade-1?
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Aug 24, 2019 00:14
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EimiYoshikawa posted:So, like, what does Big Mom's hat-sword qualify as, and would his feelings be hurt if someone told him he wasn't grade-1? The only people who really care about the sword rankings in OP are swordsmen. Its not so much a central plot point as just a quirk of the OP world.
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Aug 24, 2019 00:25
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Jose posted:Apparently whitebeards naginata was a grade 1 Speaking of which it’s currently on his grave being protected by Marco. I wonder if Blackbeard might eventually go there to steal it.
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Aug 24, 2019 00:44
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Is Whitebeard's weapon even a sword?
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Aug 24, 2019 01:54
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tbp posted:https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Meito Got it slightly mixed up; it's Ryuma's corpse that Moria had (and suddenly it makes sense the mention of the place being so cold that bodies are preserved for centuries) and used Brook's shadow to animate, making an incredibly powerful zombie swordsman with an incredibly good katana who had Brook's fighting style but even more powerful. Rigged Death Trap posted:The only people who really care about the sword rankings in OP are swordsmen. You know sword guys, always going on and on about their weapon.
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Aug 24, 2019 02:12
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Mraagvpeine posted:Is Whitebeard's weapon even a sword? A glaive/naginata is basically a sword on a stick.
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Aug 24, 2019 02:23
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if musashi can use an oar im sure a naginata counts
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Aug 24, 2019 02:30
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Mraagvpeine posted:Is Whitebeard's weapon even a sword? It can be converted into one pretty easily.
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Aug 24, 2019 02:32
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ManSedan posted:This arc has been great so far but oh boy I’m confused. I have questions, but I’ll start with a simple one. https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Meito#50_Ryo_Wazamono_Grade_Swords 1. Supreme Grade 2. Great Grade 3. Skillful Grade 4. Grade Shuusui and Wado Ichimonji are both Great Grade while his Kitetsu is simply Grade. Yubashiri was a Skillful Grade by the way.
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Aug 24, 2019 03:17
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I think the cursed blades might be a cut above (haw haw) other blades of the same grade, but the curse is considered a significant downside. As said, Kitetsu was literally in the bargain bin. Given Mihawk's sword is as big as he is, I think there's a relatively broad definition for legendary blades that can easily include Whitebeard's naginata. (and maybe someone's going to give a name to Mihawk's tiny dagger)
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Aug 24, 2019 04:05
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And the numbers. 1. Supreme Grade. 12 2. Great Grade. 21 3. Skillful Grade. 50 4. Grade. Undetermined, seems to be any notable named sword that was not good enough to get in the higher ranks.
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Aug 24, 2019 05:16
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MonsterEnvy posted:And the numbers. There's also unlisted ones like Law's blade, Cavendish's blade Durandal, and Hawkins's sword. All of those are rather unique and seem to be of high quality.
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Aug 24, 2019 05:32
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tbp posted:sorta. he was in line for the "throne" inasmuch as there is one. and it wouldn't be before kaido - kaido doesn't hold political power in the wano system, that's orochi, but they're in cahoots, kaido basiaclly being the real boss as far as any of us can tell. it's kinda hard to tell what causes orochi to command any degree of respect, why kaido allied with him, etc. An assassin going after Komurasaki even though Orochi still thinks she's dead is a strong indicator that Fukurokuju is the one really running the country.
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Aug 24, 2019 05:43
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Maybe we'll see Zoro cut loose in this arc. He hasn't really been all that challenged when it comes to his opponents. Maybe Doflamingo will show up after and undo any or all of his skill development in the next arc.
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Aug 24, 2019 06:14
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The samurai swordfighting dude in samurai land better fuckin take the spotlight for once
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Aug 24, 2019 06:16
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doomrider7 posted:There's also unlisted ones like Law's blade, Cavendish's blade Durandal, and Hawkins's sword. All of those are rather unique and seem to be of high quality. Presumably they all fall into one of those four slots. We just don't know which ones is all.
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Aug 24, 2019 06:51
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Is there like a sword judging board in the OP world that decides what grade the swords are? "The finish is pretty good but the handle is pretty tacky so that's a Skillful Grade for you" Andrast fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Aug 24, 2019 |
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Aug 24, 2019 07:04
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Mihawk writes opinionated reviews to the newspapers.
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Aug 24, 2019 07:09
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Jose posted:Yeah he'll upgrade to the 2 kitetsu and get odens sword. He might turn kuinas sword into a black blade though Yeah I could see the latter happening for him to finally upgrade that sword to the highest grade, since I don't think he'll ever replace it and we know that swords turning black permanently through armament haki is a thing.
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Aug 24, 2019 09:23
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It would make slightly more sense if it was created using haki rather than permanently imbued with it through use
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Aug 24, 2019 10:47
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Luffy's meat fork becomes a black legendary weapon..
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Aug 24, 2019 12:00
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When Zoro beats Mihawk he’s gonna claim Yoru and use it as his mouth sword.
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Aug 24, 2019 18:47
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:When Zoro beats Mihawk he’s gonna claim Yoru and use it as his mouth sword. It'll be broken as penance for the two swords of Zoro's it broke.
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Aug 24, 2019 19:38
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i cannot think of another example where a skilled fighter fights a master, loses, then later asks the master to train him so he can win the rematch. we def. see the fight -> lose -> begs to be a disciple story often enough, but where both know it's for a later rematch is an interesting twist.
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Aug 24, 2019 23:17
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Gyges posted:It'll be broken as penance for the two swords of Zoro's it broke. Yeah there's no way Zoro beats Mihawk without cutting through his sword in a two-page spread.
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Aug 25, 2019 00:03
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and Mihawk has got a big smile on his face
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Aug 25, 2019 00:08
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Bleck posted:and Mihawk has got a big smile on his face I would mark the gently caress out if Mihawk says the line at the end of it.
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Aug 25, 2019 00:27
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The fact that Mihawk taught Zorro during the timeskip makes me think they won't have a climactic battle. It will be up to Zorro to defeat the guy who beats Mihawk (most likely Shiryu from Blackbeard's crew) and surpass him that way.
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Aug 25, 2019 00:30
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DeadBonesBrook posted:The fact that Mihawk taught Zorro during the timeskip makes me think they won't have a climactic battle. It will be up to Zorro to defeat the guy who beats Mihawk (most likely Shiryu from Blackbeard's crew) and surpass him that way. Please do not insult Mihawk like this. He is a man of his word.
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bacon flaps posted:the d stands for daddy
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bacon flaps posted:he's horny for fighting
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Mihawk writes opinionated reviews to the newspapers. This tickles my funnybone for some reason. The world's most powerful swordsman in his spooky crumbling gothic castle, sitting back in a high-backed chair behind a desk in a study with quill pen and ink just penning inane old-lady letters to the editor about swords he's seen lately.
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Crasical posted:This tickles my funnybone for some reason. The world's most powerful swordsman in his spooky crumbling gothic castle, sitting back in a high-backed chair behind a desk in a study with quill pen and ink just penning inane old-lady letters to the editor about swords he's seen lately. He's got a regular column, for sure. Dracule "Hawk Eyes" Mihawk is the Andy Rooney of the One Piece universe, but for swords.
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Crasical posted:This tickles my funnybone for some reason. The world's most powerful swordsman in his spooky crumbling gothic castle, sitting back in a high-backed chair behind a desk in a study with quill pen and ink just penning inane old-lady letters to the editor about swords he's seen lately. I could also see him doing that for fine wines as well given that he's been shown drinking a glass a few times. That would actually be great character for him I feel like.
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morgans and mihawk is a ship of mine now
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