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Watched The Spy Who Loved Me last night for the first time in many years, and it’s insane how much of the tanker sequence is almost beat-for-beat the same as the volcano stuff in YOLT. Bond gets spotted on cctv and brought to the villain. Bond causes mayhem and hijacks a henchman in a little mono-rail thing. Control room gets closed behind metal shutters with gun batteries. Bond releases trapped allies to join a big shootout. I know the wider villain’s plot (big ship gobbles up Soviet/Western vehicles to provoke war) is identical, but it verges into the territory of outright remake at the end there. Cracking film though. It was great to see watch it with my partner who had never seen it and getting the vicarious reaction to stuff like the Union Jack parachute, submarine Lotus etc.
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# ? Aug 26, 2019 11:10 |
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Matinee posted:Watched The Spy Who Loved Me last night for the first time in many years, and it’s insane how much of the tanker sequence is almost beat-for-beat the same as the volcano stuff in YOLT. A lot of people criticize The Spy Who Loved Me for being a "greatest hits" Bond movie, just hitting all the tropes without doing anything new, but that's why it's one of my favorite. It has all the Bond moments I want and it does them really well. The hits are hits for a reason, and most greatest hits albums are pretty good to listen to! If someone had never seen a Bond movie and wanted to see one to find out what it was all about, you could do way worse than Spy.
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# ? Aug 26, 2019 19:27 |
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gohuskies posted:A lot of people criticize The Spy Who Loved Me for being a "greatest hits" Bond movie, just hitting all the tropes without doing anything new, but that's why it's one of my favorite. It has all the Bond moments I want and it does them really well. The hits are hits for a reason, and most greatest hits albums are pretty good to listen to! If someone had never seen a Bond movie and wanted to see one to find out what it was all about, you could do way worse than Spy. The World is Not Enough is basically the quintessential "greatest hits" Bond film. I mean, Brosnan himself is a "greatest hits" Bond, but you've got a boat chase, a ski chase, a killer theme song, a charismatic villain (Robert Carlyle is the only person who is giving a gently caress in that movie), pretty women, a nuclear threat ... it ticks all the boxes. Shame it's at least 20 minutes too long, has some really awful jokes and Denise Richards is sleepwalking through the whole thing.
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# ? Aug 26, 2019 19:52 |
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Timby posted:The World is Not Enough is basically the quintessential "greatest hits" Bond film. I mean, Brosnan himself is a "greatest hits" Bond, but you've got a boat chase, a ski chase, a killer theme song, a charismatic villain (Robert Carlyle is the only person who is giving a gently caress in that movie), pretty women, a nuclear threat ... it ticks all the boxes. I really liked Sophie Marceau in that movie. I'd easily put her up there with my favorite bond Villains, and outside of Vesper, she's probably the best love interest Bond has had as well.
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# ? Aug 27, 2019 16:36 |
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Matinee posted:Watched The Spy Who Loved Me last night for the first time in many years, and it’s insane how much of the tanker sequence is almost beat-for-beat the same as the volcano stuff in YOLT. Yeah all the Lewis Gilbert films are the same, just the locations and the names are different. Capture a device with a bigger version of that device, kill the world to populate it with your master race. Gargamel Gibson posted:Out of the villains Scaramanga has the best first line. Nick NaaAAAAACK! TABASCOOOOoooh!
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 11:14 |
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AFewBricksShy posted:I really liked Sophie Marceau in that movie. I'd easily put her up there with my favorite bond Villains, and outside of Vesper, she's probably the best love interest Bond has had as well. Elektra was definitely a highlight of that movie for me as well. I was never really sure what the chain of events was though. She hated her father all along? She was kidnapped and changed her mind when he refused to pay? She was suffering Stockholm Syndrome? Was she using Renard all along? In any event, mentioning good Bond Love Interests makes me remember how I was very confused when I watched Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies as a little kid. Where did Natayla go in TND? My innocent little pea brain couldn't grasp Bond ends the movie with a girl and then she's just...gone in the next movie, never to be thought of or mentioned again.
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Timby posted:The World is Not Enough is basically the quintessential "greatest hits" Bond film. I mean, Brosnan himself is a "greatest hits" Bond, but you've got a boat chase, a ski chase, a killer theme song, a charismatic villain (Robert Carlyle is the only person who is giving a gently caress in that movie), pretty women, a nuclear threat ... it ticks all the boxes. I still can't help but feel Carlyle was a bit wasted there, even though he's giving his all(as always). Just look at him in Ravenous, he'd have been perfect as a more prototypical smarmy arrogant Bond villain.
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 16:48 |
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NikkolasKing posted:Elektra was definitely a highlight of that movie for me as well. I was never really sure what the chain of events was though. She hated her father all along? She was kidnapped and changed her mind when he refused to pay? She was suffering Stockholm Syndrome? Was she using Renard all along?
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 17:15 |
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NikkolasKing posted:In any event, mentioning good Bond Love Interests makes me remember how I was very confused when I watched Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies as a little kid. Where did Natayla go in TND? My innocent little pea brain couldn't grasp Bond ends the movie with a girl and then she's just...gone in the next movie, never to be thought of or mentioned again. I remember honestly looking forward to Michelle Yeoh coming back for more movies since she kicked so much rear end. But they definitely needed to bring the fat Russian guy back from Goldeneye.
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 17:17 |
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LinYutang posted:I remember honestly looking forward to Michelle Yeoh coming back for more movies since she kicked so much rear end. Valentin? He did come back in TWINE... which didn't go well for him.
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 17:18 |
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They should have brought back post shark attack Felix before they rebooted the series.
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 17:23 |
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Simply Simon posted:Valentin? He did come back in TWINE... which didn't go well for him. Yeah he owned in both films
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 17:23 |
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I was being sarcastic I would have liked to see more Michelle Yeoh's character kicking rear end instead of Valentin.
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 17:46 |
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I didn't get the sarcasm because Valentin is wonderful!
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 17:51 |
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Yeah, Zukofsky was great and it's a shame they whacked him in TWINE. More Robbie Coltrane is never a bad thing.
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 17:54 |
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I liked Valentin too but to be honest, I was more a fan of his appearance in Goldeneye than TWINE. His understandable beef with Bond made him much more interesting than his chummy relationship with Bond in TWINE.
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 19:45 |
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e: double post from being on mobile.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I liked Valentin too but to be honest, I was more a fan of his appearance in Goldeneye than TWINE. His understandable beef with Bond made him much more interesting than his chummy relationship with Bond in TWINE. I don't think the TWINE relationship was chummy so much as, uh, professional courtesy. Bond knows he can bust Zukofsky and Zukofsky knows it, but he also knows that Elektra is bad news. Remember, it wasn't until he was being drowned in a tub of caviar that he coughed up any info.
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# ? Sep 1, 2019 20:15 |
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Timby posted:I don't think the TWINE relationship was chummy so much as, uh, professional courtesy. Bond knows he can bust Zukofsky and Zukofsky knows it, but he also knows that Elektra is bad news. Remember, it wasn't until he was being drowned in a tub of caviar that he coughed up any info. Fair point. I don't think they were exactly friends in TWINE, but the "if I piss Zukovsky off, he's going to shoot off my balls" edge of their talks in Goldeneye was missing, and Valentin came across more as a straight man than a formidable ex-KGB officer.
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# ? Sep 2, 2019 00:10 |
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Zukovsky isn't supposed to be a Bad Guy in either film. Their relationship is testy for obvious and various reasons but the threat he posed in Goldeneye was more about Bond being on Z's turf. Why would he scare Bond outside of his club? He's also a rare example of Bond showing that he is a real spy and not just a government sanctioned action hero. Keeping a network of informants and contacts, criminal or otherwise, is what spies do.
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# ? Sep 2, 2019 00:40 |
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Pluto TV has added a James Bond channel, watching Dr. No right now. https://pluto.tv/live-tv/pluto-tv-007
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# ? Sep 2, 2019 01:15 |
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Mst3kmann posted:Pluto TV has added a James Bond channel, watching Dr. No right now. Sweet. Any idea which movies they have the rights too?
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# ? Sep 2, 2019 02:33 |
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Jose Oquendo posted:Sweet. Any idea which movies they have the rights too? Almost all of them according to the press release. quote:the channel will offer 18 Bond films in heavy rotation. https://deadline.com/2019/08/pluto-tv-preps-24-7-james-bond-pop-up-channel-ahead-of-new-movie-launch-1202708426 Mst3kmann fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Sep 2, 2019 |
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Mst3kmann posted:Pluto TV has added a James Bond channel, watching Dr. No right now. ffs i click that link and it's the train scene in From Russia with Love. Perfect timing, right? Red Grant has Bond at gun point. Bond is doomed unless he thinks of something - and fast! James manages to trick Grant into opening the briefcase. One latch open. We know if that second one is undone, the booby trap will activate. He reaches over for the second latch and HI I'M MIKE LINDELL WITH MY PILLOW Great ad placement is what I'm saying
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peekaboo gangster posted:Ahh, my post was missing words, should have read "which is itself another bad song" - my opinion of the Brosnan themes is not exceedingly high. Dalton, on the other hand? Not a single one with a clunky theme song; something about Gladys Knight's License to Kill just does it for me every time. the world is not enough slaps
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 13:34 |
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also tomorrow never dies was on amazon prime a few months ago and i rewatched it. lmao at michelle yeoh's spy headquarters with Extremely Chinese gadgets. i don't remember if there was a gong sound effect but there might as well have been
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R. Guyovich posted:also tomorrow never dies was on amazon prime a few months ago and i rewatched it. lmao at michelle yeoh's spy headquarters with Extremely Chinese gadgets. i don't remember if there was a gong sound effect but there might as well have been Love the dueling themes in that headquarters scene as each time Yeoh is on screen the "Oriental riff" plays and everytime Brosnan is on screen the Bond theme plays.
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 17:03 |
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it's not a terrible movie; the villain(s) are great (vincent schiavelli!!!!!) and there was potential in the dynamic between bond and the teri hatcher character which was of course squandered in 20 minutes of screen time. it's solidly mediocre.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 07:04 |
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TCM is doing a month long 007 marathon, and I just finished watching On Her Majesty's Secret Service for the first time. Goddamn Telly Savalas plays a good Blofeld, and the extended car chase through the Derby was crazy. I'm so used to the older Bond films having really cheesy fist fights so seeing Lazenby with a good stunt double was rather surprising and welcome. Now I'm onto Diamonds Are Forever and the whole start of the film really feels like the studio trying to memory hole Lazenby and do a Sean Connery speedrun.
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Arcsquad12 posted:TCM is doing a month long 007 marathon, and I just finished watching On Her Majesty's Secret Service for the first time. Goddamn Telly Savalas plays a good Blofeld, and the extended car chase through the Derby was crazy. I'm so used to the older Bond films having really cheesy fist fights so seeing Lazenby with a good stunt double was rather surprising and welcome. Memory holing Lazenby is unsurprising, because the reclamation of OHMSS as being a good Bond film is a relatively recent thing. I'm somewhat sure that the initial audience reaction to Lazenby wasn't good in 1969 and that why the producers went running back to Connery who, of course, demanded and got paid an astronomical sum to do it. I'm sure by now you've realized it's a goofy as poo poo film too.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 21:31 |
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Diamonds are Forever is a really silly movie, and I do get a chuckle out of Q scamming a casino with his gadgets.
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# ? Sep 15, 2019 00:40 |
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Kinda sad that Kanye sampled Diamonds Are Forever and not a woman artist because a good chunk of the lyrics are about how diamonds are so good compared to men, who are poo poo.
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# ? Sep 15, 2019 01:10 |
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Holy poo poo, you guys have mentioned OHMSS a few times so tonight I decided to rewatch it after at least a decade. Tonight of all nights.
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# ? Sep 15, 2019 02:08 |
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For me OHMSS is in an odd place where it is somehow both more and less silly than the previous movies. Lazenby isn't terrible but he's kinda uneven IMO. It's hardly a total loss but it is just kind of an oddball even when you account for changing Bond. Can't really put my finger on it though.
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# ? Sep 15, 2019 02:26 |
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sean10mm posted:For me OHMSS is in an odd place where it is somehow both more and less silly than the previous movies. Lazenby isn't terrible but he's kinda uneven IMO. It's hardly a total loss but it is just kind of an oddball even when you account for changing Bond. Can't really put my finger on it though. Lazenby has a wry smile a lot of the time, even as Bond, but also because he has to play act as gay academic Sir Hilary it does come off as less serious for much of the runtime.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Another favorite of mine is what I call "chase music" but is more officially known as "007" on the soundtracks. 007 in Thunderball The track titled "007 Takes the Lektor" in FRWL was the first time this motif was used. It reminds me so much of when I first discovered Bond as a kid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKCEiNk198E&t=5s
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# ? Sep 17, 2019 21:56 |
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drunkill posted:Brosnan was dealt a dud hand. Only Goldeneye was great. Tomorrow Never Dies is great to re-watch because its loving prescient as hell in retrospect. Well, maybe not because the writers wanted to make the villain Rupert Murdoch even at that time, but his empire has certainly destroyed the world much more than it had by the time the film came out.
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# ? Sep 25, 2019 18:54 |
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Cacator posted:Better not watch The Spy Who Loved Me, Octopussy, A View to a Kill or Quantum of Solace then. Why leave off Moonraker? It was my favorite Bond book, although I didn't read any past Diamonds are Forever lol
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AFewBricksShy posted:This one? Also why is it that the Craig films have Aston Martins with the wheel on the wrong goddamn side? Shameful trash imho. Detective No. 27 posted:I just love that audiences loved Jaws so much they had to give him a face turn and happy ending. lol at the line "they should survive re-entry." No, they shouldn't. Are you out of your mind? Preston Waters fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Preston Waters posted:Also why is it that the Craig films have Aston Martins with the wheel on the wrong goddamn side? Shameful trash imho. Jaws is just that tough
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