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super fart shooter posted:So did anyone else know that if a peasant revolt captures your capital holding, they'll instantly butcher your whole court including any and all of your close family members and consort, cause I sure didn't yeah, they don't take prisoners, so everybody just dies
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Don't lose wars to peasants they are very poorly armed.
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Aug 26, 2019 15:22
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In my defense, my tribal hillfort is also very poorly armed to hold out against a huge horde of peasant rabble
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Aug 26, 2019 15:37
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super fart shooter posted:So did anyone else know that if a peasant revolt captures your capital holding, they'll instantly butcher your whole court including any and all of your close family members and consort, cause I sure didn't Can't really blame them tbh. My dynasties usually have it coming.
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Aug 26, 2019 16:27
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Honestly, I'm not even mad or anything, my dynasty will live on, it was just legit jaw dropping when I got like 18 death notifications all at once and the realization of what had happened as I started to click through them
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Aug 26, 2019 16:51
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I feel like I'm coming to terms with this game now, doing pretty well with my Ireland start with no DLC. However I have literally one more county to take until I can force the form Ireland title. I've been checking for people that will come to my court, are male and have strong claims but there are none for any of the counties left. I've also had my Chancellor working to fabricate claims and moving him occasionally to aid in those firing. Given it's been almost 10 years of waiting I should have tried to breed in one of those claimants but it is too late for that I guess as I'm impatient. Is there anything else I can do to push a claim? I just need one more county (I think?) as I have 49% of all of them now.
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Aug 26, 2019 20:13
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Red_Fred posted:I feel like I'm coming to terms with this game now, doing pretty well with my Ireland start with no DLC. Is it in a duchy you can create? That gives you de jure claims on titles.
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Aug 26, 2019 20:21
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I've been doing an Ironman run in Byzantium and struggling to get back into power after messing up the new inheritance system. I don't like how your heir can constantly change, to the point you have to babysit the inheritance screen, they really should lower the rate electors switch. And if the imperial successor is a relative then I should just get to play as them instead of being stuck in the boonies since I didn't switch nominations fast enough.
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Aug 26, 2019 20:25
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Mantis42 posted:I've been doing an Ironman run in Byzantium and struggling to get back into power after messing up the new inheritance system. I don't like how your heir can constantly change, to the point you have to babysit the inheritance screen, they really should lower the rate electors switch. And if the imperial successor is a relative then I should just get to play as them instead of being stuck in the boonies since I didn't switch nominations fast enough. I don't remember ever getting sidelined because I had nominated a different relative than what actually got elected, you sure?
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I think thats what happened, its pretty far in the past now and I'm on Ironman so I can't check.
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Aug 26, 2019 20:46
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super fart shooter posted:Honestly, I'm not even mad or anything, my dynasty will live on, it was just legit jaw dropping when I got like 18 death notifications all at once and the realization of what had happened as I started to click through them It's a bit weird though, since the peasants must be way more thorough than soldiers. Since they always get EVERYONE, while if you or I assault a capital, we'd be lucky to get even a few captives.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:36
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Technowolf posted:Is it in a duchy you can create? That gives you de jure claims on titles. I just took Cil Dara which is part of a two county duchy so I might be able to grab that title. Although will I personally need to hold it to do that? It’s currently held by a vassal of mine.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:48
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Red_Fred posted:I just took Cil Dara which is part of a two county duchy so I might be able to grab that title. Although will I personally need to hold it to do that? It’s currently held by a vassal of mine. Nah, you can create it as long as 51% of the counties are in your realm. They can belong to vassals, and it won't cause any issues
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Aug 26, 2019 23:59
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Major Isoor posted:Nah, you can create it as long as 51% of the counties are in your realm. They can belong to vassals, and it won't cause any issues And I do it but going into that county, clicking de jure and then form duchy or something? Like the same way I would do it with Ireland when the time come.
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Red_Fred posted:And I do it but going into that county, clicking de jure and then form duchy or something? Like the same way I would do it with Ireland when the time come. Yeah, same menu - it'll say "usurp" instead of "crewte" though. You won't be able to do it if the current holder is at war though, from memory
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Mantis42 posted:I've been doing an Ironman run in Byzantium and struggling to get back into power after messing up the new inheritance system. I don't like how your heir can constantly change, to the point you have to babysit the inheritance screen, they really should lower the rate electors switch. And if the imperial successor is a relative then I should just get to play as them instead of being stuck in the boonies since I didn't switch nominations fast enough. what i did for the first half of the game was just only appoint myself and my heir as commanders, no one else could muster enough votes after a while all the stuff your dynasty does makes it win ahtomatically and you dont have to care anymore
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Aug 27, 2019 01:33
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Davincie posted:what i did for the first half of the game was just only appoint myself and my heir as commanders, no one else could muster enough votes You can also just fill out your commanders and council with family and they'll generally vote for family. You may not necessarily get the exact heir you wanted but it's an easy way to maintain your grip on the empire.
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My son became Emperor... and promptly stopped being my heir. I have no clue why, my inheritance is Primogeniture. e: haha right, Imperial Elective is a different government type, so I can't just die and be the Emperor. However electors can steal my heirs and gently caress me over. This sucks, I just remembered why I never play Ironman. Mantis42 fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Aug 27, 2019 |
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Aug 27, 2019 02:55
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ugh why doesn’t HIP have the iron century bookmark yet. get on it nerds!!
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Aug 27, 2019 04:52
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Is it impossible to generate an imperial government on the random world generator now? Because I've tried like, twelve times in a row and haven't gotten one, despite having the box checked.
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Veryslightlymad posted:Is it impossible to generate an imperial government on the random world generator now? Because I've tried like, twelve times in a row and haven't gotten one, despite having the box checked. i always get one of each of the Byzantine style and the HRE style. one game, they had pretty much split up India and most of Tibet between them.
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Aug 27, 2019 15:41
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In my last try, I had a not-Byzantine "Empire of Karelia" show up in Scandinavia, with its capital in Vestisland. It took me a while to find it.
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Aug 27, 2019 16:10
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I don’t really understand the appeal of random worlds, like the whole thing of these games is history? And seeing alternate histories?
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a fatguy bald spot posted:I don’t really understand the appeal of random worlds, like the whole thing of these games is history? And seeing alternate histories? It's not really my thing yet either but I may come around to it, who knows.
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a fatguy bald spot posted:I don’t really understand the appeal of random worlds, like the whole thing of these games is history? And seeing alternate histories? Think of random worlds as the Ultimate alt history.
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a fatguy bald spot posted:I don’t really understand the appeal of random worlds, like the whole thing of these games is history? And seeing alternate histories? I don’t play random worlds, but I can see why it could be fun. Once you get into the details, the game is kind of lovely at being historical, so going full fantasy isn’t that big a departure.
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What's a fun way to do shattered world? I was playing shattered where everyone was a count earlier and I found I was rapidly expanding my territory in every direction while the AI was kind of just doing nothing?
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The AI is hesitant to dedicate to wars that are close. Count on count wars are usually a few hundred dudes vs their garrison + few hundred dudes. First guy raises his armies, gets into a fight, wins, and loses 200 guys. Now the others around him smell blood in the water, and piranha him because everyone has cassus belli. The AI doesnt want to be the first to be ripped apart, so the only ones getting attacked are those with bad Martial and low levies in the first years. After a couple decades, the consolidation cassus belli goes away, leaving a shitton of counts trying to grow with the old methods.
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My one game with a shattered world had vikings reach far into Europe with their hyper aggression and event troops and then the realms around me popped heresies so I couldn't diplomatize with the biggest state near me, and then a religious revolt destroyed me.
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Major Isoor posted:Yeah, same menu - it'll say "usurp" instead of "crewte" though. You won't be able to do it if the current holder is at war though, from memory After checking I had 50% on two other duchies (needed 51%) and was still one short on counties. In the end I got about three claims in the space of 2 years and my character died but the heir inherited so it was all good. I now just need to build up enough Piety to actually click the button to form Ireland. Do I get a free pass to change around duchy/county ownership when I do this? Or will I have scheme and piss people off to get things nicely setup? My new character is genius and I just married another genius too so that’s exciting!
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Red_Fred posted:After checking I had 50% on two other duchies (needed 51%) and was still one short on counties. In the end I got about three claims in the space of 2 years and my character died but the heir inherited so it was all good. scheming and pissing people off is the name of the game! just because you get a promotion doesnt mean your vassals are happy if you take away half their poo poo (in fact it mostly just makes them more jealous that they didn't get promotions too)
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Welp, my not-norse random world merchant republic run just got hosed over by someone else reforming the religion to be unable to raid and unable to have multiple wives. I was literally having my chancellor forge a claim on my would-be-third holy site when it happened.
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awesmoe posted:scheming and pissing people off is the name of the game! just because you get a promotion doesnt mean your vassals are happy if you take away half their poo poo (in fact it mostly just makes them more jealous that they didn't get promotions too) Yeah that makes sense. It’s probably going to be easier to do once I’m King though right? Or should I get my stuff as organised as possible before I form the Kingdom?
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Red_Fred posted:Yeah that makes sense. It’s probably going to be easier to do once I’m King though right? Or should I get my stuff as organised as possible before I form the Kingdom? Honestly just go for it - the game becomes a lot less fun when everything is super predictable and gameable. My most fun times playing the game have come from not really understanding things, making some mistake, and then having to scramble to deal with it all. Rulers come and go but dynasties are forever-ish!
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a fatguy bald spot posted:I don’t really understand the appeal of random worlds, like the whole thing of these games is history? And seeing alternate histories? It basically boils down to some people have played the game SO MUCH that they have kind of exhausted every interesting scenario they can think of in the historical starts, but they still like the general feeling of playing the game, so why not shake things up? It's basically the same reason why married couples get into BDSM.
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How much of the middle east do I need to control to enable the Outremmer decision?
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SirPhoebos posted:How much of the middle east do I need to control to enable the Outremmer decision? The control requirement is “complete control of Near East region, County of Jerusalem in demesne.” If you type “Near East” into the location search tool (or indeed any other purely geographical or titular title like it), its outlines will be shown on the map.
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SirPhoebos posted:How much of the middle east do I need to control to enable the Outremmer decision? all
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SirPhoebos posted:How much of the middle east do I need to control to enable the Outremmer decision? ninjahedgehog posted:The entire Arabian peninsula -- so the de jure kingdoms of Jerusalem, Syria, Arabia, Yemen, Iraq, al-Jazira, and then the duchy of Sinai. Egypt is optional, but if you control it when you form the empire it becomes de jure Outremer, and it's probably the richest kingdom in the entire game so you definitely want it.
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