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I guess I'd probably add as a corollary that big budget games are poo poo for the money. I could buy a lot more games and get a lot more value from smaller devs than I could keeping up with AAA titles.
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Mebh posted:I really don't know where the industry is going to go because its entirely broken right now. I just want to make fun systems and good games. So it is possible to do monetisation well, but one of the things Jim is absolutely right about is how disgusting it is for $60 games to then add microtransactions and freemium economies on top of what you've already paid for the game and the dlc. In particular stuff like FIFA. EA always try to justify it by saying they need the money, but most of that money goes into their profits and advertising and all the usual corporate bullshit. Destiny is going free-to-play in October, and I'm pretty sure they're going to gently caress it up - so far they've been happy for everyone to blame the monetisation on activision, but it remains to be seen how they'll implement f2p, and how/if they'll remunerate players who bought the game, dlc and season pass while they were all paid content.
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OwlFancier posted:I guess I'd probably add as a corollary that big budget games are poo poo for the money. I could buy a lot more games and get a lot more value from smaller devs than I could keeping up with AAA titles. Very fair.
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Aug 27, 2019 02:12
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Plus I'd rather honestly give money to smaller devs than to psycho mc nonceface or whoever runs EA.
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Aug 27, 2019 02:13
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Yeah, there’s been such a big backlash against microtransactions and lootboxes in AAA games that if anything I think they’re on the way out in games that aren’t explicitly free-to-play. Like how Shadow of War was full of that poo poo and then they actually took it all out in a patch. Every few years there’s some new fad that the corporations seize on and everyone worries that maybe this will be all games are now. Like casual games, or subscription MMOs, or Facebook games, or f2p mobile games. But while these things never go entirely away, eventually the bubble bursts and people keep making big single player experiences because there’s still a market for them, and probably always will be.
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Aug 27, 2019 02:16
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I guess that's the problem with publisher driven companies is that they're going to try and turn everything into 'games as service' bullshit because that's where the most money is. But you can still make enough money to run a small studio making single player games, you just won't make the kind of money that attracts ridiculous sums from investors. What's interesting is that right now it's the console makers that tend to be funding the single player AAA games, your gears of war and spider mans (men?) and Microsoft buying up studios like Obsidian. I guess i wonder if they can see the shitstorm that's coming from the market collapsing into a heap of exploitative poo poo, and they need to make sure that if that happens players still have games to buy.
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Aug 27, 2019 02:26
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I've deliberately kept a few years of lag on my video game purchases, so I end up choosing what to play with the benefit of hindsight and it's all cheaper. I got the Witcher 3 last year with all the expansions for 15 quid and it's given me like 500 hours worth of gameplay so far, and will probably give me more- still haven't done my new game plus run. Every now and then I'll just pop into cex and pick up something 3 or 4 years old I wanted to play when it came out but never did for like a fiver. Am I gently caress paying 60 quid for the latest asscreed when I get pretty much the same game for a fraction of the price, just two years older.
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Aug 27, 2019 03:17
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Ironically the latest AssCreed is by far the best one ever and Kassandra is more powerful, and more lesbian, than I can put to words.
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I think the only asscreed I played was 2 and I didn't particularly like it, or understand it. Something something it's a mee, ezio, something something magic apple something borgia bad I got bored and fell asleep,.
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OwlFancier posted:I think the only asscreed I played was 2 and I didn't particularly like it, or understand it. Something something it's a mee, ezio, something something magic apple something borgia bad I got bored and fell asleep,. Your failure to recognize that the game is about two things and two things only shames you. 1) Hanging out with your best bro Leonardo da Vinci. 2) Fist fighting the Pope.
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Aug 27, 2019 03:59
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Oh yeah I forgot he was in it. Both of them, actually.
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Coohoolin posted:I've deliberately kept a few years of lag on my video game purchases, so I end up choosing what to play with the benefit of hindsight and it's all cheaper. I'm in the same situation after playing almost nothing but WoW for almost 10 years. I'm currently playing Bioshock.
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Coohoolin posted:I've deliberately kept a few years of lag on my video game purchases, so I end up choosing what to play with the benefit of hindsight and it's all cheaper. I got the Witcher 3 last year with all the expansions for 15 quid and it's given me like 500 hours worth of gameplay so far, and will probably give me more- still haven't done my new game plus run. I mean this is pretty common among people who have self-restraint. But even if you are dead excited about a game and have to buy it when it comes out there's merit in waiting a couple of weeks for the most egregious bugs to be fixed. The only thing you miss out on is discovering something new along with others who are as hyped about it as you are. Sometimes that's an important factor. Having played the hell out of Cultist Simulator (which started out as research because I was looking at applying for a job with Weather Factory) I went and bought Sunless Sea and the expansion and I'm enthralled. Between all the free add-on content they've released and Zubmariner there is apparently an endless cascade of stuff to do. I'm on my sixth captain and getting close to uncovering the whole map for the first time. My last guy got sunk by frigging parrots. Maugrim fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Aug 27, 2019 |
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Miftan posted:While I appreciate you drowning your sorrows in 90s sitcoms, you should probably focus up because the world is ending. Focus up for what? That sounds like a contradictory statement. I ask because I drown my sorrows by *checks notes* sitting at home on weekends.
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Reveilled posted:Some of this stuff actually seems quite poetic. I put in some stuff yesterday about the prime minister declaring gay communism and one of the lines was, "the winners will go to the schools, the losers will go to the hospitals" which still haunts me a little
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Tarnop posted:I'm in the same situation after playing almost nothing but WoW for almost 10 years. I think you’re confused, you should be playing Classic now.
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Sunless Skies is good but the prose doesn't have quite the same shade of purple as Seas, since Kennedy isn't with Failbetter any more for
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Ms Adequate posted:Ironically the latest AssCreed is by far the best one ever and Kassandra is more powerful, and more lesbian, than I can put to words. Oddysey is awesome and Kassandra is loving awesome (and also the only character you should ever play).
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 “Just so you know, in my view Pluto is a planet,” he said. “You can write that the Nasa administrator declared Pluto a planet once again. I’m sticking by that, it’s the way I learned it and I’m committed to it.” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/pluto-planet-nasa-space-a9079651.html
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Why not also call Eris a planet and resolve the debate that way? More inclusivity for planet status.
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Aug 27, 2019 08:56
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Deprecate the term planet and come up with more robustly defined nomenclature for use when precision is required. The original 9 get to stay planets and that's it.
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Guavanaut posted:Why not also call Eris a planet and resolve the debate that way? More inclusivity for planet status. Eris is actually the reason for the whole reopening of "What is a planet?" debate. Just her throwing a big golden apple with the words, "Te Planḗtēs", and then something something Trojan war. Probably. Maugrim posted:Deprecate the term planet and come up with more robustly defined nomenclature for use when precision is required. The original 9 get to stay planets and that's it. That's actually part of the problem. Actually defining a planet as opposed to a moon, asteroid or dwarf-planet. Also, there's far more than the "original 9"; go back far enough, and the sun and moon are planets. You have the asteroids, Ceres, Vesta, Juno, etc. There's not currently a clear-cut definition that satisfies everyone. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Aug 27, 2019 |
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Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!Maugrim posted:Deprecate the term planet and come up with more robustly defined nomenclature for use when precision is required. The original 9 get to stay planets and that's it.
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Aug 27, 2019 09:08
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The big game devs realised they could "make more money" by becoming predatory gambling firms advertised to children, in much the same way that Apple have realised they can "make more money" by becoming a predatory lending firm. Capitalism is crisis.
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Aug 27, 2019 09:16
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Buy these £50 gloves that you can never actually wear!
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Aug 27, 2019 09:21
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Guavanaut posted:Why not also call Eris a planet and resolve the debate that way? More inclusivity for planet status. That's not a resolution though? with all the kuiper crap out there we'll end up with any number of variants of mass, volume and inclination to the invariable plane. madness i say
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Aug 27, 2019 09:23
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The single best f2p game with ethical microtransactions is Path of Exile. Absolutely none of the stuff you can pay for give you an edge in terms of gameplay; it's all either cosmetic stuff, or permanent upgrades to your stash size that lasts through every ladder reset. Plus the game is a shitload of fun so it actually feels worth it when you drop £5 on a couple of stash tabs after you've played for 2000 hours.
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Guavanaut posted:Why not go for 7? "The seven non-fixed astronomical objects in the sky visible to the naked eye" is just as valid an exclusionary term as "something something hydrostatic equilibrium." BRB, gonna petition NASA to rerecognise Sol and Luna as planets. 
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Guavanaut posted:Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia! with light pollution, smog and eye disease we'll have five planets by the end of this century. madness i say
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Pesky Splinter posted:BRB, gonna petition NASA to rerecognise Sol and Luna as planets. Moon: Volume 2.1958×1010 km3 Mass 7.342×1022 kg Mean density 3.344 g/cm3 Pluto: Volume 7.057±0.004×109 km3 (0.325 of moon) Mass 1.303±0.003×1022 kg (0.177 of moon) Mean density 1.854±0.006 g/cm3 (0.554 of moon)  oh look we dropped somewhere between one sixth and half a moon beyond neptune, better call it a planet because an american found it
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And if that's somehow not convinced you, just look at this: can't argue with orbits now, can you
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:with light pollution, smog and eye disease we'll have five planets by the end of this century. madness i say
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Apraxin posted:Welcome to Brexit Britain, the proudest nation on earth. Uh, this. This isn't a joke? This is serious? This person thinks that writing this makes them seem sane and not a complete C-SPAM Mod?
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MELTON MOWBRAY MELTONMOWBRAYMELTONMELTONMOWBRAYYYYYYYYYY
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Guavanaut posted:Ed. VI's Treason Act seems to imply that every single felony signed off by Henry VIII was removed entirely, that sounds far more broad than just removing some criminal laws, was that not the case? Felonies are solely criminal law by definition, and indeed only for the most serious offences - the ones that either get you executed or the entirety of your property confiscated. Most crimes were misdemeanours. It's a small subset of Henry's criminal legislation and by definition doesn't include any of his civil legislation, was my point. While you were coming into this with 'each king repealed everything their predecessor did' which is a ludicrous exaggeration. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Aug 27, 2019 |
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Does anyone else have a sudden urge to play Kerbal?
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Ratjaculation posted:Does anyone else have a sudden urge to play Kerbal? My daughter has 'space' as her next term topic, so I've just dusted it off and played a bit with her up to a moon landing. Splurged on the new DLC cos it gives more stuff to do when you land somewhere, and she loves just exploring stuff so next task will be a rover.
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My favourite bullshit microtransaction is the $170 axe in Apex Legends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a9a4bLQeGk Note that that's $170 minimum because it requires buying $160 worth of random loot boxes and getting each of the unique weapons each time and then spending the final $10 on the axe. In reality you're probably spending at least double that and getting the same loving weapon over and over again. (One thing that confuses me is that he says the boxes are $7 a go and you end up spending $160 on them - that's... not a number divisible by 7.)
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Guavanaut posted:Why not go for 7? "The seven non-fixed astronomical objects in the sky visible to the naked eye" is just as valid an exclusionary term as "something something hydrostatic equilibrium." My point was just that we can keep "planet" as a colloquial term - and popular/historical consensus can define what falls into that category - and use a more rigorously defined descriptive set of terms for scientific applications. Why bother trying to give "planet" such a rigorous definition at all?
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Tesseraction posted:My favourite bullshit microtransaction is the $170 axe in Apex Legends He probably didn't want to say $161 because it doesn't flow as well.
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