Dreddout posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVkUvmDQ3HY

Au Loong Yu posted:

people favoring the term “localism” do not have the same interpretation of what it means. The anti–extradition bill movement exhibits many fewer xenophobic tendencies than the Umbrella Movement. This is probably because the old trio is seen as out of fashion, and localists like the Youngspiration have seen their two legislators disqualified by the government and fallen into inactivity since then, leaving today’s young radicals largely on their own. Even if some exhibit prejudice toward Mainland Chinese, this hasn’t been crystalized into a political program or project. So instead of criticizing from the outside, the Left should get involved and try to win the young people over.

Au Loong Yu posted:

The two sides in this rivalry are going to make people choose “either Washington or Beijing.” All progressive people, whether in Hong Kong or beyond, should refuse such choices. They are not real choices for working people in Hong Kong, China, or the United States. Workers have nothing to win in this rivalry.

Trump’s project is to make the American army and its corporations great again, and in the course of it to sacrifice working people and the environment, in the United States, China, and the rest of the world. Xi’s project of modernizing China, carried out in the name of his people, has no common ground with working people’s interests. He is defending interests in the South China Sea while giving away the future of China — its natural resources, its ecological balance, and its people’s health. He is defending the mandarins’ assets and position while destroying people’s livelihood. Hong Kong was essential in the rise of China, and now Beijing is paying back its debt to Hong Kong by defaulting on its promise of granting universal suffrage to Hong Kong.

We must not fall into the nationalist trap of supporting either US aggression or Chinese aggression. That will be the first step toward opposing the US–China rivalry and preventing it from turning into a war.

Some Guy TT posted:

im surprised to hear that the current protests exhibit fewer xenophonic tendencies than the umbrella movement because up until now i hadnt heard anything about the umbrella movement having any xenophobic tendencies at all

Yossarian-22 posted:

both sides bad??!! continues to be my leftcom south park galaxy brain take for everything that isn't just sheer unabashed blatant colonialism à la israel/palestine or india/kashmir

the only post-occupy era protest movements that i've found myself getting excited for are the yellow vests and the democratic movement in sudan. maybe china is just playing up the nationalism and pepe bullshit in the hong kong movement and it's actually extremely good but i'm just not convinced

hey look, there's an anti-austerity movement developing in 2015 brazil against the worker's party. jacobin's excited! the protest must be good and deserve our full support and nothing bad could come of it, i mean *pfft* state media like telesur might overestimate the right-wing elements in the protest but hey as is their wont right? https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/07/youth-protests-dilma-rousseff-pt/

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

In Britain the yellow vests are fascists lol

AnimeIsTrash posted:

My chinese friend's dad was talking about how the HK protesters are all paid cia actors. I was just like

tino posted:

Typo stop it can we have some serious conversation.

Xelkelvos posted:

Where do you think we are?

If you want "serious" discussion, make a D&D thread.

get that OUT of my face posted:

ah i've missed typo's obvious trolling that is largely indistinguishable from sincere pro-PRC posting

get that OUT of my face posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqueir6xja0

ostensibly this is about the Wolf Warrior movies, their disturbing undertones (white yellow genocide), and how it ties in to PRC's propaganda campaign. it ends up bouncing around from topic to topic kind of aimlessly, but it's still informative

the movie's action scenes look decent, though

edit: jesus christ at this comment

forever trevor noah, it takes a true piece of poo poo to be in the conversation for worst late night host

Soy Division posted:

so local labor gets no chance to benefit from these projects, wow big win for socialism there

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While violent protesters in Hong Kong attacked police officers, blocked traffic, set fires, beat up tourists and journalists under the cover of opposing the "anti-extradition bill" in the past two months, another force in the region demonstrates to people that Hong Kong is still the city with the Lion Rock spirit - which represents the resilience and diligence of Hongkongers - and still the Pearl of the Orient that has its heart connected to its motherland.

Supporting police, offering rewards for clues to bring rioters to justice, gathering at Tamar Park to fight violence and safeguard Hong Kong, taxis with the Chinese national flags rallying on main streets of Hong Kong: Behind all these movements is the Safeguard Hong Kong Alliance organized by Hong Kong lawyer Kennedy Wong Ying-ho.

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However, as the situation escalated with violent protesters storming and vandalizing the Hong Kong Legislative Council on July 1, Wong and his partners decided to adjust the alliance's approach to stop the violence and safeguard Hong Kong.

"I was thinking we have to unite strengths from all sectors of Hong Kong society to promote righteousness and counter evil trends," Wong told the Global Times. The alliance soon gathered the support of 380 social organizations in Hong Kong under this common goal.

After some radical protesters threw China's national flag into the sea in early August, the alliance immediately ordered 12,000 national flags and distributed them to residents.

After rioters messed up the Hong Kong International Airport, beat tourists and journalists from the mainland, the alliance donated millions of Hong Kong dollars as bounty for clues to bring the suspects to justice.

Anti-government forces scheduled an assembly on August 18 at Victoria Park. The alliance said it motivated tens of thousands of residents to gather at Tamar Park one day earlier to fight violence and safeguard Hong Kong.

In Wong's words, where there is violence, there are the alliance's patriotic actions to safeguard Hong Kong.

In the alliance's latest action, more than 500 Hong Kong taxis hung national flags and rallied on the main streets of the city on Saturday night.

"Anti-government forces organized the 'Hong Kong-independence human chain,' we organized 'Love China, love Hong Kong taxi chain,'" Wong said.

The chaotic situation has scared many mainland visitors away and halved taxi drivers' income, so they really hope that peace and order could be restored as soon as possible.

R. Guyovich posted:

this vid is trash so it's no great surprise you're the one who posted it here lol

sincx posted:

Hey I had to pay $500 more to avoid HK on my current Asia trip. That $500 would've bought a lot of booze.

sincx posted:

Hey I had to pay $500 more to avoid HK on my current Asia trip. That $500 would've bought a lot of booze.

sincx posted:

Hey I had to pay $500 more to avoid HK on my current Asia trip. That $500 would've bought a lot of booze.

Typo posted:

The "Silent Majority" of working class Hong Kongers stand behind the party, against separatism, against imperialism, protect the peace, aid law enforcement, and go against violence

Lady Galaga posted:

500 taxis that hung the national flag and drove around for an hour before ditching them in a bin so they can actually get some passengers lol

https://twitter.com/HongKongHermit/status/1164983119662895104

same poo poo for the tamar park rally, bunch of retired people getting driven over to wave some flags for a free lunch

https://twitter.com/kingcha74901147/status/1162767475320090624

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Every time Nathan Rich finds that one of his videos has been demonetized by YouTube, he marks it with a red "X" in front of the title.

In his last 10 videos, only one about Marvel in the Chinese market has not been marked.

"They (YouTube) have been very aggressive toward my channel," he told the Global Times in an interview on Monday.

Rich, also known online as "the King of Hotpot," often posts videos in which he shares his opinions on news, especially those related to China. The American chief technology officer has been living in China since 2014.

Recently, he spoke about reports by the BBC, ABC and New York Times on what has been happening in Hong Kong, and questioned whether these Western media giants have been telling the truth or attempting to direct public opinion.

However, he has noticed that the more he talked about politics, the more his videos were demonetized, which are reflected in the numbers of subscribers, views, comments and likes.

He also found that when searching "Hong Kong" on YouTube, clips that support the riots appear at the top, instead of the pro-government ones that are more frequently viewed. "They're hiding videos that are positive about China… They're promoting ideas of separatism and basically anti-China ideas."

Rich has been negotiating with YouTube and received a few replies. "They still insisted on removing those subscribers and told me that everything was working as intended," he said. But YouTube does not make it clear what their "intention" is.

"It's actually not a freedom of speech issue on there… that made me nervous," he said.

On Monday night, Rich posted a new video on his YouTube channel, explaining how the website has been biased to his channel. "YouTube has admitted in writing they are removing my China-friendly subscribers," he said.

Typo posted:

Frijolero posted:

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1166437727396491264?s=20

whoa holy epicsauce

Frijolero posted:

awesome reporting. I fcucking love tattoons