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Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
much like everything else in the US, the mid sized farms have mostly disappeared and youre left with gigantic farms or 2 acre family farms

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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Nah, the 2 acre family farms have merged into larger but still single family farms. They're all on the verge of suicide because they can't pay the leases on their equipment and can't afford the seeds for next year.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

Milo and POTUS posted:

*slapping mag into glock* Well let's give them a lot to eat

Pretend that sounded cool

Pretend?

It did sound cool, dude.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Just found out Capriotti's is gonna do Impossible cheese steaks by sneaking a glance at some wayward docs waiting for my lunch here.

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

re: Bret Stephens bedbug meltdown
https://twitter.com/quasirealSmiths/status/1166349364287168512

in actual content:
https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1166416403139899392

EBB
Feb 15, 2005


:unsmith:

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Aug 2019 Current Events Thread: It's hot and the nipples angle is just not something I would've though to pursue

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Yeah all those first pictures are Trudeaus face on Castro's body.

I cant loving wait for the election to start in earnest

So glad I'm not on Facebook

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Well duh.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
I’ve been saying this for years no one would listen

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

holocaust bloopers posted:

I’ve been saying this for years no one would listen

i did

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/RealPressSecBot/status/1166509952455860225

Bot is back online

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Wasabi the J posted:

Just found out Capriotti's is gonna do Impossible cheese steaks by sneaking a glance at some wayward docs waiting for my lunch here.

I will try this.

Also, that Chinese/agri/subsidy article is going to get some work.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-parliament-suspend-prorogue-boris-johnson-queen-no-deal-latest-a9081546.html

quote:

Boris Johnson has asked the Queen to suspend parliament from mid-September until just two weeks before the 31 October deadline.

The explosive move will be seen as an attempt to stop MPs from stopping the prime minister forcing through a no-deal Brexit.

Parliament would be suspended days after MPs return from their summer recess next week and would only resume for a Queen's Speech on 14 October.

Reports suggest that parliament will not sit from 10 September, meaning there would be just a week between MPs returning from their summer break and the suspension beginning.

So I guess they're really going for it!

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





i just read that and holy poo poo ahahahahahahahaha

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
She can't really refuse can she? I mean she can but, can she really? I also read that even if the Tories fail a confidence vote, they won't resign, but call an election AFTER hard brexit.

Lmao somehow this is stupider than trump, though the kids in cages in the border is 1000% more terrifying

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Would the american equivalent be as bad as it seems? I don't know much about the parliamentary process and how it'd compare to our system

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Suspending parliament is normally only done during elections. That’s why we have such short campaigns - the government essentially stops during them.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
I think Canada has 5 weeks for elections? You yanks take 4 loving years basically

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hot Karl Marx posted:

I think Canada has 5 weeks for elections? You yanks take 4 loving years basically

For presidential campaigns, yeah. Campaigns for the House, which would be our version of the House of Commons in the UK, are typically 8-10 months. Most of that is driven by the primaries, which occur in the spring and early summer.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Presidential campaigns are never ending again. We're balls deep in a cycle of pointing fingers and calling names before we even get to the primaries.

But local poo poo is much more tightly run.

Still thinking about changing my name to Fah Q and running for congress in Wyoming. Only when I'm really, really high though.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1166675639291842561

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
That's a good read even of he doesn't go into politics too deeply.

I have my conflictions about the guy, but he was a net positive.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Anyone want to post the whole article?

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

CRUSTY MINGE posted:


I have my conflictions about the guy, but he was a net positive.

i was very angry when they waived the 7 year requirement for him, not only because it breaks a long-running standard but because he was probably the best possible choice that trump would actually select.

but yes i agree

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

also new usa today polls


biden 32 up 2 from june
warren 14 up 4 from june
bernie 12 down 3
buttigieg 6 down 3
harris 6 down 2
yang 3 down 2


gabbard failed to qualify for next debate

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

SimonCat posted:

Anyone want to post the whole article?


CHAOS ACTUAL posted:

In late November 2016, I was enjoying Thanksgiving break in my hometown on the Columbia River in Washington state when I received an unexpected call from Vice President-elect Mike Pence. Would I meet with President-elect Donald Trump to discuss the job of secretary of defense?

I had taken no part in the election campaign and had never met or spoken to Mr. Trump, so to say that I was surprised is an understatement. Further, I knew that, absent a congressional waiver, federal law prohibited a former military officer from serving as secretary of defense within seven years of departing military service. Given that no wavier had been authorized since Gen. George Marshall was made secretary in 1950, and I’d been out for only 3½ years, I doubted I was a viable candidate. Nonetheless, I felt I should go to Bedminster, N.J., for the interview.

I had time on the cross-country flight to ponder how to encapsulate my view of America’s role in the world. On my flight out of Denver, the flight attendant’s standard safety briefing caught my attention: If cabin pressure is lost, masks will fall…Put your own mask on first, then help others around you. In that moment, those familiar words seemed like a metaphor: To preserve our leadership role, we needed to get our own country’s act together first, especially if we were to help others.

The next day, I was driven to the Trump National Golf Club and, entering a side door, waited about 20 minutes before I was ushered into a modest conference room. I was introduced to the president-elect, the vice president-elect, the incoming White House chief of staff and a handful of others. We talked about the state of our military, where our views aligned and where they differed. Mr. Trump led the wide-ranging, 40-minute discussion, and the tone was amiable.

Afterward, the president-elect escorted me out to the front steps of the colonnaded clubhouse, where the press was gathered. I assumed that I would be on my way back to Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, where I’d spent the past few years doing research. I figured that my strong support of NATO and my dismissal of the use of torture on prisoners would have the president-elect looking for another candidate.

Standing beside him on the steps as photographers snapped away, I was surprised for the second time that week when he characterized me to the reporters as “the real deal.” Days later, I was formally nominated.

During the interview, Mr. Trump had asked me if I could do the job. I said I could. I’d never aspired to be secretary of defense and took the opportunity to suggest several other candidates I thought highly capable. Still, having been raised by the Greatest Generation, by two parents who had served in World War II, and subsequently shaped by more than four decades in the Marine Corps, I considered government service to be both honor and duty. When the president asks you to do something, you don’t play Hamlet on the wall, wringing your hands. To quote a great American company’s slogan, you “just do it.” So long as you are prepared, you say yes.

When it comes to the defense of our experiment in democracy and our way of life, ideology should have nothing to do with it. Whether asked to serve by a Democratic or a Republican, you serve. “Politics ends at the water’s edge”: That ethos has shaped and defined me, and I wasn’t going to betray it, no matter how much I was enjoying my life west of the Rockies and spending time with a family I had neglected during my 40-plus years in the Marines.

When I said I could do the job, I meant I felt prepared. I knew the job intimately. In the late 1990s, I had served as the executive secretary to two secretaries of defense, William Perry and William Cohen. In close quarters, I had gained a personal grasp of the immensity and gravity of a “secdef’s” responsibilities. The job is tough: Our first secretary of defense, James Forrestal, committed suicide, and few have emerged from the job unscathed, either legally or politically.

We were at war, amid the longest continuous stretch of armed conflict in our nation’s history. I’d signed enough letters to next of kin about the death of a loved one to understand the consequences of leading a department on a war footing when the rest of the country was not. The Department of Defense’s millions of devoted troops and civilians spread around the world carried out their mission with a budget larger than the GDPs of all but two dozen countries.

On a personal level, I had no great desire to return to Washington, D.C. I drew no energy from the turmoil and politics that animate our capital. Yet I didn’t feel overwhelmed by the job’s immensities. I also felt confident that I could gain bipartisan support for the Department of Defense despite the political fratricide practiced in Washington.

“ In the Marine Corps, amateur performance is anathema. ”

My career in the Marines brought me to that moment and prepared me to say yes to a job of that magnitude. The Marines teach you, above all, how to adapt, improvise and overcome. But they expect you to have done your homework, to have mastered your profession. Amateur performance is anathema.

The Marines are bluntly critical of falling short, satisfied only with 100% effort and commitment. Yet over the course of my career, every time I made a mistake—and I made many—the Marines promoted me. They recognized that these mistakes were part of my tuition and a necessary bridge to learning how to do things right. Year in and year out, the Marines had trained me in skills they knew I needed, while educating me to deal with the unexpected.

Beneath its Prussian exterior of short haircuts, crisp uniforms and exacting standards, the Corps nurtured some of the strangest mavericks and most original thinkers I encountered in my journey through multiple commands and dozens of countries. The Marines’ military excellence does not suffocate intellectual freedom or substitute regimented dogma for imaginative solutions. They know their doctrine, often derived from lessons learned in combat and written in blood, but refuse to let that turn into dogma.

Woe to the unimaginative one who, in after-action reviews, takes refuge in doctrine. The critiques in the field, in the classroom or at happy hour are blunt for good reasons. Personal sensitivities are irrelevant. No effort is made to ease you through your midlife crisis when peers, seniors or subordinates offer more cunning or historically proven options, even when out of step with doctrine.

In any organization, it’s all about selecting the right team. The two qualities I was taught to value most were initiative and aggressiveness. Institutions get the behaviors they reward.

During my monthlong preparation for my Senate confirmation hearings, I read many excellent intelligence briefings. I was struck by the degree to which our competitive military edge was eroding, including our technological advantage. We would have to focus on regaining the edge.

I had been fighting terrorism in the Middle East during my last decade of military service. During that time, and in the three years since I had left active duty, haphazard funding had significantly worsened the situation, doing more damage to our current and future military readiness than any enemy in the field.

I could see that the background drummed into me as a Marine would need to be adapted to fit my role as a civilian secretary. It now became even clearer to me why the Marines assign an expanded reading list to everyone promoted to a new rank: That reading gives historical depth that lights the path ahead. Books like the “Personal Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant,” “Sherman” by B.H. Liddell Hart and Field Marshal William Slim’s “Defeat Into Victory” illustrated that we could always develop options no matter how worrisome the situation. Slowly but surely, we learned there was nothing new under the sun: Properly informed, we weren’t victims—we could always create options.

Fate, Providence or the chance assignments of a military career had me as ready as I could be when tapped on the shoulder. Without arrogance or ignorance, I could answer yes when asked to serve one more time.

When I served as Supreme Allied Commander Transformation, a new post created in 2002 to help streamline and reform NATO’s command structure, I served with a brilliant admiral from a European nation. He looked and acted every inch the forceful leader. Too forceful: He yelled, dressing officers down in front of others, and publicly mocked reports that he considered shallow instead of clarifying what he wanted. He was harsh and inconsiderate, and his subordinates were fearful.

I called in the admiral and carefully explained why I disapproved of his leadership. “Your staff resents you,” I said. “You’re disappointed in their input. OK. But your criticism makes that input worse, not better. You’re going the wrong way. You cannot allow your passion for excellence to destroy your compassion for them as human beings.” This was a point I had always driven home to my subordinates.

“Change your leadership style,” I continued. “Coach and encourage; don’t berate, least of all in public.”

But he soon reverted to demeaning his subordinates. I shouldn’t have been surprised. When for decades you have been rewarded and promoted, it’s difficult to break the habits you’ve acquired, regardless of how they may have worked in another setting. Finally, I told him to go home.

“ When you’re going to a gunfight, bring all your friends with guns. ”

An oft-spoken admonition in the Marines is this: When you’re going to a gunfight, bring all your friends with guns. Having fought many times in coalitions, I believe that we need every ally we can bring to the fight. From imaginative military solutions to their country’s vote in the U.N., the more allies the better. I have never been on a crowded battlefield, and there is always room for those who want to be there alongside us.

A wise leader must deal with reality and state what he intends, and what level of commitment he is willing to invest in achieving that end. He then has to trust that his subordinates know how to carry that out. Wise leadership requires collaboration; otherwise, it will lead to failure.

Nations with allies thrive, and those without them wither. Alone, America cannot protect our people and our economy. At this time, we can see storm clouds gathering. A polemicist’s role is not sufficient for a leader. A leader must display strategic acumen that incorporates respect for those nations that have stood with us when trouble loomed. Returning to a strategic stance that includes the interests of as many nations as we can make common cause with, we can better deal with this imperfect world we occupy together. Absent this, we will occupy an increasingly lonely position, one that puts us at increasing risk in the world.

It never dawned on me that I would serve again in a government post after retiring from active duty. But the phone call came, and on a Saturday morning in late 2017, I walked into the secretary of defense’s office, which I had first entered as a colonel on staff 20 years earlier. Using every skill I had learned during my decades as a Marine, I did as well as I could for as long as I could. When my concrete solutions and strategic advice, especially keeping faith with our allies, no longer resonated, it was time to resign, despite the limitless joy I felt serving alongside our troops in defense of our Constitution.

“ We all know that we’re better than our current politics. ”

Unlike in the past, where we were unified and drew in allies, currently our own commons seems to be breaking apart. What concerns me most as a military man is not our external adversaries; it is our internal divisiveness. We are dividing into hostile tribes cheering against each other, fueled by emotion and a mutual disdain that jeopardizes our future, instead of rediscovering our common ground and finding solutions.

All Americans need to recognize that our democracy is an experiment—and one that can be reversed. We all know that we’re better than our current politics. Tribalism must not be allowed to destroy our experiment.

Toward the end of the Marjah, Afghanistan, battle in 2010, I encountered a Marine and a Navy corpsman, both sopping wet, having just cooled off by relaxing in the adjacent irrigation ditch. I gave them my usual: “How’s it going, young men?”

“Living the dream, sir!” the Marine shouted. “No Maserati, no problem,” the sailor added with a smile.

Their nonchalance and good cheer, even as they lived one day at a time under austere conditions, reminded me how unimportant are many of the things back home that can divide us if we let them.

On each of our coins is inscribed America’s de facto motto, “E Pluribus Unum”—from many, one. For our experiment in democracy to survive, we must live that motto.


Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


There’s a lot of shade thrown in that. Not like trump will read it or sit long enough to listen to it.

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

drat.

Why couldn't we have had that guy under any other President? It's funny how he insults Trump like a Brit, all polite yet scathing.

Crakkerjakk
Mar 14, 2016


Who cares.

I dunno, I soured on Mattis about the time he started standing up concentration camps on military bases.

Beyond that though, who gives a poo poo about people penning critical opinion pieces long after they've been removed from positions where they actually have power to effect change, and often times chose not to do so.

loving Holder and Obama started doing that poo poo as soon as they were out of office, and I have zero tolerance for it anymore. Actions count, not words.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Has there been any other Trump administration official who achieved the kind of bipartisan support that Mattis did? I'm struggling to think of one.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I assume american conservatives are going to applaud BJ for "getting things done" or whatever, right?

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Milo and POTUS posted:

I assume american conservatives are going to applaud BJ for "getting things done" or whatever, right?

They would be dumb to, because there's no bilateral trade deal in place with the UK, and if they crash out of the EU then they revert to standard WTO trade rules. So even from a MAGAnomics perspective, it's not a good thing for the US, especially when it's compounded by a weak GBP, which would further discourage the UK from buying American goods.

That's to speak nothing of the political and economic instability that would plague the US' biggest military and geopolitical ally. But the MAGA wing of the Republican party doesn't really care about that.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

I keep wondering if they really think the UK is gonna pick up the slack from the china trade war

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Thanks for posting this.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Crakkerjakk posted:

Who cares.

I dunno, I soured on Mattis about the time he started standing up concentration camps on military bases.

Beyond that though, who gives a poo poo about people penning critical opinion pieces long after they've been removed from positions where they actually have power to effect change, and often times chose not to do so.

loving Holder and Obama started doing that poo poo as soon as they were out of office, and I have zero tolerance for it anymore. Actions count, not words.

generals do what you tell them to. You could have swapped all the nazi generals with US generals and the outcome would have been the same.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1166711208700981249?s=20

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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
The last two years have been the "events leading up to conflict" part of the textbook.

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