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The worst part about Quiet is when you can finally unlock an outfit for her that isn't so skeezy, well you're at the end game and even then she leaves a few missions before the end
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Cleretic posted:Quiet would be my favorite Metal Gear character if it weren't for how skeevy they get with her. She's really neat and complex, but because of the multiple elephants in the room with her design they all kinda get dismissed as being as dumb as the dumbest parts of her. I mean, just put her in something besides "as little as we can get away with" and she seems rad as hell, she seems like she has a good character starting point so far and she snipes a fighter jet pilot from the chopper he's currently attacking for god's sake
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Aug 28, 2019 04:23
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Aug 28, 2019 07:06
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Cleretic posted:Quiet would be my favorite Metal Gear character if it weren't for how skeevy they get with her. She's really neat and complex, but because of the multiple elephants in the room with her design they all kinda get dismissed as being as dumb as the dumbest parts of her. There's absolutely nothing complex about Quiet and between the awful depiction of the B&B squad in MGS4, perving on a 16 yo girl in Peace Walker and Quiet it's clear Kojima's brain broke after MGS3.
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Aug 28, 2019 07:26
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I subbed for a month of wow since everyone I know is playing WoW classic. I played vanilla wow in highschool and didn't enjoy it so I'm not sure why I thought it would be different this time. Sure tooling around in discord with voice chat as a group was enjoyable but the quest design was all so incredibly bad. And I couldn't remember which npc gave me this poo poo so I had to go to Google to look stuff up.
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Aug 28, 2019 11:37
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Terminally Bored posted:There's absolutely nothing complex about Quiet and between the awful depiction of the B&B squad in MGS4, perving on a 16 yo girl in Peace Walker and Quiet it's clear Kojima's brain broke after MGS3. I guess that is correct (about Quiet at least, I can't speak to how cohesive Kojima's brain is). I think the reason she feels more complex is because she straight-up just doesn't communicate, so all the insight you get into her as a character is through other people's interpretations and interactions. In the world of Metal Gear, where everything's overexplained as hell, Quiet's an interesting different element in that world in that, while the answers might be easy, she's not giving them to you and all you're getting from other people is incomplete guesswork. Metal Gear's a world that states its themes, story and historical details, and character arcs at length and at full volume for about 95% of the entire series. Quiet is most of that other 5%, though, and that little island of 'you figure it out' stands out pretty strongly if you're willing to look past the boobs, which I admit is a big ask.
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Aug 28, 2019 12:19
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Len posted:I subbed for a month of wow since everyone I know is playing WoW classic. Yeah I don't know who the game is for. Kids who were too young when it first came out won't appreciate the vintage because they have no nostalgia for it and adults who remember it fondly no longer have the free time to put up with it's quirks. I don't think a lot of people remember how far MMOs have come since WoW launched and all the iterations of updates it's been through.
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Aug 28, 2019 13:10
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Is WoW classic literally as it was on release, or does it include pre-expansion balance/etc'... updates? I just remember when I was playing Warlock was kinda weak, but then some time before the first expansion (and shortly after I stopped playing) it received such a huge buff that it gets a nod in the first expansion's trailer.
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Aug 28, 2019 13:15
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New Leaf posted:Yeah I don't know who the game is for. Kids who were too young when it first came out won't appreciate the vintage because they have no nostalgia for it and adults who remember it fondly no longer have the free time to put up with it's quirks. I don't think a lot of people remember how far MMOs have come since WoW launched and all the iterations of updates it's been through. One of the snags with MMOs in general is that people are realizing the good times mostly game from playing the game with your friends rather than the horrid grinding that most of them end up requiring.
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Aug 28, 2019 13:23
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My favorite WoW classic reactions have been from friends who either never actually played vanilla WoW, or only played the content on private servers so they're getting their poo poo handed to them by wolves, can't find any copper and after a full day of playing couldn't even reach level 20. They seem to think the game is broken, and I get to laugh at them.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:One of the snags with MMOs in general is that people are realizing the good times mostly game from playing the game with your friends rather than the horrid grinding that most of them end up requiring. Yeah I had to swear off MMOs because of the time sink (other than Destiny, but I'm not sure if that really counts). I've just got too much poo poo going on with a wife and kid. I still find time to game, but it has to be something I can put down at the drop of a hat to deal with stuff around the house. gently caress blocking off 5+ hours for a loving raid. Are you kidding me? I'm 35, I've got poo poo to do.
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New Leaf posted:I'm 35, I've got poo poo to do. Like watching Dragonball.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Is WoW classic literally as it was on release, or does it include pre-expansion balance/etc'... updates? I just remember when I was playing Warlock was kinda weak, but then some time before the first expansion (and shortly after I stopped playing) it received such a huge buff that it gets a nod in the first expansion's trailer. It's based on 1.12 which was the last big vanilla patch before the pre-BC stuff.
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Aug 28, 2019 13:31
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Aug 28, 2019 13:34
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I haven't played MGSV past the intro hospital level, but is Quiet the lady that gets soaked in alcohol and lit on fire in the intro? I imagine the reason she doesn't talk is because she would sound like someone's 80 year old, pack-an-hour granny (actually, that sounds absolutely hilarious and now I'm pissed Kojima didn't do that).
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New Leaf posted:Yeah I had to swear off MMOs because of the time sink (other than Destiny, but I'm not sure if that really counts). I've just got too much poo poo going on with a wife and kid. I still find time to game, but it has to be something I can put down at the drop of a hat to deal with stuff around the house. gently caress blocking off 5+ hours for a loving raid. Are you kidding me? I'm 35, I've got poo poo to do. Yeah, I've played a few MMOs in my day but I've never understood the appeal of a game that basically becomes a second job. EVE was the only one I played for any appreciable amount of time because, well, first off I played Goons in Space instead of EVE and mostly did poo poo that didn't require specific time frames. I mostly just manufactured poo poo and got up to economic shenanigans. Mostly was just playing with spreadsheets. EVE was pretty forgiving as far as time commitments go but even that could start demanding way more time than anybody should spend on a video game. Except for poo poo like...well Mittens was apparently retired and financially stable enough to just go "gently caress it, I play EVE all day now."
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:Player movement speed in Destiny 2 is laughably slow. Not if you play as one specific class and use one specific highly impractical glitch to move just slightly faster than the rest of your team mates doing bunny hops! Randalor posted:I haven't played MGSV past the intro hospital level, but is Quiet the lady that gets soaked in alcohol and lit on fire in the intro? I imagine the reason she doesn't talk is because she would sound like someone's 80 year old, pack-an-hour granny (actually, that sounds absolutely hilarious and now I'm pissed Kojima didn't do that). Yes, but that's not why she doesn't talk.
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Randalor posted:I haven't played MGSV past the intro hospital level, but is Quiet the lady that gets soaked in alcohol and lit on fire in the intro? I imagine the reason she doesn't talk is because she would sound like someone's 80 year old, pack-an-hour granny (actually, that sounds absolutely hilarious and now I'm pissed Kojima didn't do that). she doesn't talk because she's been infested with a primordial larynx-based parasite that will induce a virulent plague if exposed to glottal vibrations unique to the english language if you made it to the end of that sentence without a nosebleed, well done!
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Randalor posted:I haven't played MGSV past the intro hospital level, but is Quiet the lady that gets soaked in alcohol and lit on fire in the intro? I imagine the reason she doesn't talk is because she would sound like someone's 80 year old, pack-an-hour granny (actually, that sounds absolutely hilarious and now I'm pissed Kojima didn't do that). Yes, and while it's not really a spoiler since you see her face, it was at least only really obvious to me when you do the second run of the hospital at the end of the game, because it's a pretty long time between when you get a look at her face in the intro and when you see her as Quiet, and you don't really know she's important enough to pay attention to in the intro, but by the time I got to the second run I'd committed her face to memory. The explanation as to why she's silent is only tangentially related (late-game spoilers). When they saved her with the photosynthetic parasite they took from The End's body, they also injected her with the English strain of the vocal cord parasites, which would mature, hatch and kill the host if they feel the host making vocalizations that match English. They injected her with those as a plan for killing off Diamond Dogs--they all speak English, so if they take her in for interrogation then she infects them and they all die. They didn't count on her being so loving stubborn that she'd refuse to speak, at all. She doesn't write anything instead because gently caress you, that's why. I'm not even making a joke here, really, she really is just keeping silent out of spite. She hates Cipher for turning her into Quiet, but she also hates Diamond Dogs for giving them the opportunity. So gently caress everybody, she's getting taken in by Diamond Dogs and not giving them anything, nobody is happy. Cleretic has a new favorite as of 13:54 on Aug 28, 2019 |
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idk im pretty happy on those helicopter rides
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Cleretic posted:She doesn't write anything instead because gently caress you, that's why. I'm not even making a joke here, really, she really is just keeping silent out of spite. I'm pretty sure I remember either hearing on cassette / reading in a log somewhere in-game that writing makes vocal cords move as if you were talking, just not as intense. Which would explain her refusal to write english. Unless I'm misremembering, which is possible. Something bringing down the endgame of MGS5: Snake gets incapacitated in one of the last missions, and Quiet has to speak on the radio to save him since she's fallen for him. At one point, she tries speaking in Navajo, which is the one language that no parasites are activated by, but the only person on base who speaks it isn't available. Despite him knowing she can speak it and is infected. And this all happening on a mission where Snake is trying to rescue her, so it'd make sense to have him on hand in case she needs to communicate something.
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JackSplater posted:I'm pretty sure I remember either hearing on cassette / reading in a log somewhere in-game that writing makes vocal cords move as if you were talking, just not as intense. Which would explain her refusal to write english. Unless I'm misremembering, which is possible. Honestly, MGSV has a bit of a thing here where all of its talking about any given subject gets blended in with both itself and people in real life discussing it, so I genuinely don't know; it might be that Code Talker said this, but it might also be possible that someone said this while talking about Code Talker, or even independently of MGSV entirely, and we're just conflating it. I don't remember any of it clearly enough to know for sure. Basically the only tape about the vocal cord parasites that I definitely remember is Code Talker explaining how it's possible for the parasites to evolve to instead be triggered by a different, similar language to the ones they were initially trained on. And I only remember that because he used Spanish and Portugese as examples, and the way he says 'Portugese' has been stuck in my head ever since.
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The metallic archaea Code Talker's voice acting is the best part of all of MGSV.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Like watching Dragonball. My wife and kid like it too, so it's "family time"! 
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Oxxidation posted:she doesn't talk because she's been infested with a primordial larynx-based parasite that will induce a virulent plague if exposed to glottal vibrations unique to the english language I seriously love this as a plot point. Screw "keep politics out of videogames", Kojima takes (very basic) ideas on politics and plays them to the loving hilt. Language is a tool of imperialism and colonialism - shall we analyse how oppressors deploy their language? Nah, let's stab language in the face 
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I appreciate that the inclusion of politics is such a non-issue in Metal Gear that we have plot-points where Gulf War veterans all have Big Boss DNA grafted onto them and there was a giant-robot involved in the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I seriously love this as a plot point. Screw "keep politics out of videogames", Kojima takes (very basic) ideas on politics and plays them to the loving hilt. Language is a tool of imperialism and colonialism - shall we analyse how oppressors deploy their language? Nah, let's stab language in the face that's skull face's master plan in a nutshell, he actually has very reasonable goals but tries to enact them in the most ludicrous way possible i especially liked that, in keeping with the XOF concept, they're also the polar opposite of what big boss and the philosophers set out to accomplish
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Plus, he's another in the cavalcade of people going "Now, this is what the Boss wanted all along!", with a completely different plan than everybody else. Skull Face is such a dumb villain. James Horan does a bang-up job, but GOD is it stupid.
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Thing dragging MGS down as a series is that it didn't end after 3. MGR was a pretty big consolation prize but everything other than that after 3 just felt so unnecessary.
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Doom 2016 is dimly lit, and it is hard to see where to go sometimes.
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Turn the gamma up? Doom 16 takes place in bright-red Mars and bright-orange Hell.
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Terminally Bored posted:There's absolutely nothing complex about Quiet and between the awful depiction of the B&B squad in MGS4, perving on a 16 yo girl in Peace Walker and Quiet it's clear Kojima's brain broke after MGS3. Having played Snatcher and Policenauts before, I can authoritatively say lol nah that’s just Kojima.
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Kojima likes looking at boobs and butts and I’ll be honest so do i
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I seriously love this as a plot point. Screw "keep politics out of videogames", Kojima takes (very basic) ideas on politics and plays them to the loving hilt. Language is a tool of imperialism and colonialism - shall we analyse how oppressors deploy their language? Nah, let's stab language in the face Yeah, if you're going to do modern politics, it's best to do it in the MGR cheesy-as-hell "JUST LIKE THE GOOD OLE DAYS AFTER NINE ELEVEN!" fashion. small related gripe: its obvious that when activision says that the upcoming Modern Warfare will not be political, they meant that it won't have any real-life politics reflected in it. oldpainless posted:Kojima likes looking at boobs and butts and I’ll be honest so do i Japanese developers are a godsend in this regard
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oldpainless posted:Kojima likes looking at boobs and butts and I’ll be honest so do i 
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oldpainless posted:Kojima likes looking at boobs and butts and I’ll be honest so do i
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Kojima loves the Lord Humungus. Just sayin...
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