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Saukkis posted:I can't tell what the prices might be on your region, but they can vary quite a bit depending on if it's commercial instruction or a club, and whether the airfield uses air plane or winch towing. We use air plane and you can get a license though us for a bit under 3000€. The neighbouring air field has a winch and there you can manage a license for under 2000€. I wasn’t aware a winch launch was a thing; that’s wild as hell that you just threat it like a kite. There is apparently a glider club a hour or two from me. I’ll have to call them and see what’s what.
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Warbird posted:I wasn’t aware a winch launch was a thing; that’s wild as hell that you just threat it like a kite. There is apparently a glider club a hour or two from me. I’ll have to call them and see what’s what. one of us, one of us, one of us
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I mean, this is basically it. Flying my Stinson is kinda boring now, to be honest. Just digging holes in the sky in a straight line. Sure, there's some skill involved with cross country navigation, but it's nothing like the thrill of the hunt that comes with searching for lift. The Stinson has a giant 10 gallon-per-hour thermal attached to the front of it, which while reassuring, also makes for a whole different set of worries. Even the worst glider far out-shines that thing if the engine were to quit. There are no published numbers, but with a windmilling propeller it's probably in the 5-7:1 glide ratio range. I've been flying our club's 1-26 to get my flights in for my add-on, and other than the fact that i'm about an inch too tall, it's just the most fun. There's something truly delightful about a plane that's light enough to pick the tail up with two fingers. Sure it might not glide the best at 23:1 according to the book, but I still managed a 2 hour flight in it the other day. I can't wait for better soaring weather to come back to the Bay Area so I can get some good flights in.
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Aug 25, 2019 18:30
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To be fair, that looks like a scenic place to do it
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Aug 26, 2019 00:15
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Found this gem in my gliding guide on the subject of finding a suitable field to land in if you're not going to make it back to your own landing strip.Australian Gliding Knowledge posted:Fields with horses should always be avoided, especially expensive horses and most especially horses with people on them. Poor freckles, thought of gliders and died.
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Aug 26, 2019 06:43
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If you need a connection, it's glider/Grob motorglider But really the point is what a fuckin job, eh? "Fireworks Pilot" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HuGHV0fbBiE
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Aug 26, 2019 08:06
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Carth Dookie posted:Found this gem in my gliding guide on the subject of finding a suitable field to land in if you're not going to make it back to your own landing strip. One more reason to add to the long list of why horses and horse people are terrible.
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Aug 26, 2019 15:20
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Mike Patey figures out how to match Draco's performance envelope with that of a pair of guys in wingsuits - so they can grab ahold of his wingtips and hang on for a little while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdccr7qm5NA
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Mad hang glider https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PotjcAHTc4
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joat mon posted:Mike Patey figures out how to match Draco's performance envelope with that of a pair of guys in wingsuits - so they can grab ahold of his wingtips and hang on for a little while. Pro-click, the explanation of how he managed to maintain the required combination of 80mph and 3500 fpm sink rate in the Draco to be able to match with the wingsuits (around 6 minutes in) is pretty fuckin' crazy/awesome. 
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Aug 27, 2019 10:58
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A Smartwings (Czech airline) 737-800 apparently flew for 2h20m on to their destination on one engine instead of immediately diverting the other day. https://avherald.com/h?article=4cbe8434&opt=0 quote:On Aug 23rd 2019 (verified by AVH on Aug 25th 2019) Reader Marc had reported in the reader comments: I guess I would be happy as a passenger not to be disrupted if I never learned about it. 
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Charles posted:A Smartwings (Czech airline) 737-800 apparently flew for 2h20m on to their destination on one engine instead of immediately diverting the other day. I think theres some kind of ETOPS joke here, but I'm too busy picking my jaw up from the table.
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Probably just figured they're within glide ratio distance of half a dozen different airfields at that altitude so what's the worst that could happen right? 
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Aug 27, 2019 23:13
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Charles posted:A Smartwings (Czech airline) 737-800 apparently flew for 2h20m on to their destination on one engine instead of immediately diverting the other day. The airline will reprimand the pilots for loading and using too much fuel.
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Aug 27, 2019 23:51
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Platystemon posted:The airline will reprimand the pilots for loading and using too much fuel. Soon the airlines will reprimand the mechanics for loading too many engines.
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Finger Prince posted:Probably just figured they're within glide ratio distance of half a dozen different airfields at that altitude so what's the worst that could happen right? Uh, there’s a lot of tall, pointy rocks between Serbia & Austria...
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PainterofCrap posted:Uh, there’s a lot of tall, pointy rocks between Serbia & Austria... Sure, if you take the scenic to Prague, but if you've got no engines turning, you ain't gonna take the scenic route, are ya!
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The 738 is certified ETOPS-180 so it sounds to me like they ran on two engines 40 minutes longer than they needed to 
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PainterofCrap posted:Uh, there’s a lot of tall, pointy rocks between Serbia & Austria... Finger Prince posted:Sure, if you take the scenic to Prague, but if you've got no engines turning, you ain't gonna take the scenic route, are ya! Actually there really aren't; straight line path from Belgrade to Vienna doesn't bust 2,000 ft above sea level.
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Sagebrush posted:The 738 is certified ETOPS-180 so it sounds to me like they ran on two engines 40 minutes longer than they needed to Real talk I was curious since the comments on Avherald say it's not ETOPS certified, I looked and Wikipedia says the carrier must be also. (ETOPS operational certification: Training, demonstration of competence, etc.)
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Charles posted:Real talk I was curious since the comments on Avherald say it's not ETOPS certified, I looked and Wikipedia says the carrier must be also. (ETOPS operational certification: Training, demonstration of competence, etc.) Even if the type is certified for ETOPs, there are additional inspections, maintenance, and equipment for the plane itself. Every once in a while planes will get swapped at the last minute and a plane that isn’t certified gets sent across the drink. When this is discovered (invariably more than halfway into the trip), it has to fly back empty.
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https://i.imgur.com/OoVWDUb.mp4 “This started to leak right after I took my fuel sample. Stayed like this for 10 minutes until I was in the air. Instructor said not to worry, it’s just the fuel expanding in the heat. Should I be concerned?” Yes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ybdaJcrFhE It’s like the hand of God swatted the Bonanza out of the sky. Pilot gives their thoughts.
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Platystemon posted:“This started to leak right after I took my fuel sample. Stayed like this for 10 minutes until I was in the air. Instructor said not to worry, it’s just the fuel expanding in the heat. Should I be concerned?” Dude, you pinched an o-ring. Take another sample. If it's not fixed, call a mechanic to show you how to work a screwdriver.
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Platystemon posted:“This started to leak right after I took my fuel sample. Stayed like this for 10 minutes until I was in the air. Instructor said not to worry, it’s just the fuel expanding in the heat. Should I be concerned?” Never mind the plane, should be concerned about the "instructor" more...
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Charles posted:Real talk I was curious since the comments on Avherald say it's not ETOPS certified, I looked and Wikipedia says the carrier must be also. (ETOPS operational certification: Training, demonstration of competence, etc.) That one likely isn't. In addition to what you mentioned, you have to order the aircraft with the additional equipment to meet the (barest of) minimum requirements. The max can be optioned as etops 180, and the NG must be able to be as well, because it's the only way anyone can operate them to Hawaii.
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Platystemon posted:https://i.imgur.com/OoVWDUb.mp4  You actually flew it like that? Like, taxied out and took off with fuel pouring out the sump valve? Don't do that. That's bad.
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All I did was find it on Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/cwc1n4/
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Platystemon posted:All I did was find it on Reddit. 
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Platystemon posted:https://i.imgur.com/OoVWDUb.mp4 That’s not where fuel leaks from when the tanks are over filled. Just jab the fuel sampler up there a few times the valve isn’t seating properly, and if it’s still doing it the valve failed.
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Platystemon posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ybdaJcrFhE That looks like the classic "blew the turn to final, try to save it by going really steep, end up skidding and cross-controlled, stall low and slow" situation Just go around man
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Sagebrush posted:That looks like the classic "blew the turn to final, try to save it by going really steep, end up skidding and cross-controlled, stall low and slow" situation I want you to picture the average V tailed Bonanza owner in your mind. And now picture them being presented with the choice to go around, in front of the airshow crowd at Oshkosh.
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The Reddit link says they got wake turbulence from the Trimotor
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MrYenko posted:I want you to picture the average V tailed Bonanza owner in your mind. There's at least one bad landing every year at Oshkosh. It's only a matter of how severe.
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I are the swayve and deboner drone pilot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3rQCj7Lq34 Everything started off normally. Then, she decided she wanted to be free! Fortunately for me, collision avoidance still functioned. The landing under the abandoned house was pure luck. I couldn't see poo poo, and had both sticks hauled all the way down. No damage PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Aug 28, 2019 |
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Charles posted:The Reddit link says they got wake turbulence from the Trimotor Seems likely. I feel like Oshkosh is less about safety-first, and more about "let's do this gigantic clusterfuck as safely as reasonably possible, because there's not really any way to do it 'safely'," and occasionally that's going to lead to some bad situations. Based on the video, I'd say it's unlikely that was a cross-controlled stall. You ain't walking away from that at low-level.
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Yeah, as i watch it more it doesn't actually look like a wing-drop, just a *whump* straight down which would be in line with getting stuck in a mass of descending air. Do the controllers at OshKosh warn people about wake turbulence or is that gonna be entirely on the pilot?
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Ford Trimotor has a 74' wingspan, about 3/4 as long as a 737 wing (the smaller ones, at least). Of course it's flying much slower but that probably produces some nice big vortices
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