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sleeptalker: Feb 17, 2011

bad posts ahead!!! posted:

what was the first tweet that broke the thing about the camera? someone posted it a long time ago and i didn't trust it at first. why did they break it so soon

I'm pretty sure that was someone jokingly predicting the obvious thing that was always going to happen.

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# ? May 25, 2024 20:04

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

yellowD posted:

The second camera pointing in the direction of his cell was also broken. Talk about bad luck

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-jeffrey-epstein-cameras-idUSKCN1VI2LC

lmbo

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:00

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

this coverup being so half assed but still working perfectly is so perfect for the modern era of american politics

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:02

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY: Feb 3, 2006

It's gonna be hilarious when the body disappears too.

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:03

Crazypoops: Jul 17, 2017

There will be actual video of every world leader leaving the jail cell stuck in a the door like the three stooges and will be like :shrug:

how strange we need more funding to allow better travel through prison doorways

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:03

Giga Gaia: May 2, 2006; 360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

Al! posted:

this coverup being so half assed but still working perfectly is so perfect for the modern era of american politics

it owns so much

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:05

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:

It's gonna be hilarious when the body disappears too.

That might be tricky. His brother has the body, and the Epstein estate's lawyers seem to be trying to prove that their client was murdered.

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:07

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013

That tunnel opening ceremony gave me a new appreciation for socialist realism.

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:11

Wheeee: Mar 11, 2001; When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

DigiDigi posted:

https://twitter.com/DARPA/status/1166736432901308416

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:11

The Saucer Hovers: May 16, 2005

EPSTEIN LIVES

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:12

Crazypoops: Jul 17, 2017

Someone needs to reboot the xfiles but the conspirators are all bill murray's character from caddyshack and they always get away with it and nobody cares anyway.

Mulder never stops drinking and scully tries to kill herself every episode but fails in some comedic fashion

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:13

Dr. Killjoy: Oct 9, 2012

No one will ever believe you
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I like this AU, the Lone Gunmen are twitch streamers/podcasters and Cigarette Smoking Man worked for Hillary�s 2016 campaign.

Dr. Killjoy has issued a correction as of 03:18 on Aug 29, 2019

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:15

The Saucer Hovers: May 16, 2005

dr.killjoy i herby order you to buy a tar

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:17

Dr. Killjoy: Oct 9, 2012

Been thinking about shelling the :10bux:

lately and I�ve been eying the 70s artwork for Vallee�s UFOs: The Psychic Solution

Alternatively Harlan Ellison�s The Glass Teat has been my favorite book cover since high school but it�s not quite avatar friendly

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:23

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY: Feb 3, 2006

I remember The Lone Gunmen deciding to cover up the existence of a water powered car so gently caress 'em.

# ? Aug 29, 2019 03:35

jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

Darth Walrus posted:

That might be tricky. His brother has the body, and the Epstein estate's lawyers seem to be trying to prove that their client was murdered.

at this point im up to 40% sure it�s a body swap and epstein is alive

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inferis: Dec 30, 2003

sloppy murders are an intentional flex by the rich

# ? Aug 29, 2019 04:36

nishi koichi: Feb 16, 2007; everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.

inferis posted:

sloppy murders are an intentional flex by the rich

# ? Aug 29, 2019 04:42

Mia Wasikowska: Oct 7, 2006

yellowD posted:

The second camera pointing in the direction of his cell was also broken. Talk about bad luck

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-jeffrey-epstein-cameras-idUSKCN1VI2LC

i'm buying into the 'they're doing it lovely on purpose' theory

or i mean this:

inferis posted:

sloppy murders are an intentional flex by the rich

# ? Aug 29, 2019 05:02

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013

Dr. Killjoy posted:

No one will ever believe you
�-
I like this AU, the Lone Gunmen are twitch streamers/podcasters and Cigarette Smoking Man worked for Hillary�s 2016 campaign.

Mulder, do you really think that a groundhog is ambulatory and intelligent enough to outsmart a groundskeeper armed with high explosives?

# ? Aug 29, 2019 05:30

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

https://twitter.com/mooncult/status/1166937486636961792

in a shocking turn of events, epstein's computer in palm beach was found by police with parts missing. judging by the video, the side panel for the case is the obvious part missing, but I can't tell if there are any hard drives in there. It looks like the IDE cable's are free, I think? which would mean that they aren't connected to the hard drive. The hard drives would either be in that box on the bottom in the middle, or in those racks on the inside of the front of the case that are lower down, and if they were in the racks they definitely are gone now, but I can't tell if that box is empty or not, too grainy. loving cops, releasing this poo poo in 240p. just use your phone for crying out loud, it probably has a better camera than the piece of poo poo you're using

like, 90% sure that I am seeing the power/IDE cables are completely free, though, and the box in the middle is empty, as are the racks, which means no hard drive

the thing I'm not sure about is that it looks like that box in the middle of the bottom of the case is a holder for hard drives, and that in the middle of that box there is a holder for a hard drive inserted in from the back-facing side of that box, with the front-facing side of the box being closed off, but if that is the case then there may be no way of seeing if there is actually a HDD in that? if that is the case, than that HDD is definitely unplugged though

TeenageArchipelago has issued a correction as of 06:08 on Aug 29, 2019

# ? Aug 29, 2019 06:05

Regulus74: Jul 26, 2007

That footage is from the 2005 raid, it's doubtful the phone cameras were any better back then.

Also found this scan of the investigation on the Finders: https://web.archive.org/web/2019030...n%20FINDERS.pdf

EDIT: And here's the full video mooncult has been posting about if you want to go over it. It's not all the footage, from what I can tell it's mostly taken from this daily mail article.

Regulus74 has issued a correction as of 07:01 on Aug 29, 2019

# ? Aug 29, 2019 06:07

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

Regulus74 posted:

That footage is from the 2005 raid, it's doubtful the phone cameras were any better back then.

Also found this scan of the investigation on the Finders: https://web.archive.org/web/2019030...n%20FINDERS.pdf

oh poo poo, that makes sense. Was legit wondering why a guy worth $500 million was using a computer old enough to still use IDE cables for it's hard drive

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jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

computer appears to be missing its trackball

# ? Aug 29, 2019 06:14

Bulgakov: Mar 8, 2009; рукописи не горят

TeenageArchipelago posted:

words

yah in one of the depositions or cop reports, maybe both, they talk about how they got the warrant to collect evidence but once they showed up there were holes where computers used to be (eg all the wires for monitor and accessories etc just dangling but no tower)

don't think they ever figured out who in the palm beach pd tipped off the 'stein gang tho. hrrRmmmMMmMm :iiam:

# ? Aug 29, 2019 07:32

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013

I watched the Franklin documentary last night, and it's notable how most of it revolves around Lawrence King and the Republican party, which tied it to conspirators in Reagan's White House. I'm guessing the Epstein ring was boosted as part of a project to make the child rape ring bipartisan.

# ? Aug 29, 2019 08:05

Bulgakov: Mar 8, 2009; рукописи не горят

its bonkers how much knowledge just totally disappears from being accessible by the future public once ingested by a grand jury

# ? Aug 29, 2019 08:19

gh0stpinballa: Mar 5, 2019

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/28/prince-andrews-supporters-say-photo-epstein-victim-fake/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

quote:

�Yes, the Duke knows what he has done - absolutely nothing wrong,� the friend said.

�Look at the picture. It has clearly been faked. Andrew�s fingers appear quite slender, like a girl�s fingers. They are also a strange shade of red.

�His real fingers are actually much chubbier - quite small and chubby.

inclined to agree that the lack of effort and the press acting as stenographers for this obvious bullshit anyway is deliberate

# ? Aug 29, 2019 08:44

Spergin Morlock: Aug 8, 2009

LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:

I remember The Lone Gunmen deciding to cover up the existence of a water powered car so gently caress 'em.

Lol, remember how the pilot episode of their show was about a guy hijacking a plane in Boston and flying it into the world trade center?

# ? Aug 29, 2019 09:57

Bulgakov: Mar 8, 2009; рукописи не горят

gh0stpinballa posted:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/28/prince-andrews-supporters-say-photo-epstein-victim-fake/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

inclined to agree that the lack of effort and the press acting as stenographers for this obvious bullshit anyway is deliberate

quote:

The Duke also believes that he is far taller in real life than he appears in the photograph, it is understood.

lol irl

# ? Aug 29, 2019 10:28

Bulgakov: Mar 8, 2009; рукописи не горят

generations of inbreeding have led to this moment

# ? Aug 29, 2019 10:28

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

I wish they'd stop using that pic of soon to be raped sex trafficked girl in every story. even sa got tired of using that pic of the serial murdered girl in photoshops.

# ? Aug 29, 2019 10:39

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

gh0stpinballa posted:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/28/prince-andrews-supporters-say-photo-epstein-victim-fake/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

inclined to agree that the lack of effort and the press acting as stenographers for this obvious bullshit anyway is deliberate

The Telegraph was never much of a newspaper, but they're pure, naked state propaganda now. One of their former columnists is the current prime minister.

# ? Aug 29, 2019 11:29

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

inferis posted:

sloppy murders are an intentional flex by the rich

or rich people murders are generally just sloppy in general and controlling the cops and journalists so they look the other way usually covers up the sloppiness. it's only so apparent this time because this is literally the highest profile prisoner in us history. rich people dont want people to think epstein was murdered as evidenced by *gestures at the entire media trying to cover it up and shut it down*. i've barely seen any reporting that epstein's legal team is trying to treat this as a murder.

murder in a max security prison isn't going to be some elaborate oceans 11 stunt where you memorize the guard patrol patterns and sneak into his jail cell after nabbing a guard's key and then put the guard's key back after you kill him after getting past the layers of security. it's just going to be paying off a couple corrupt cops to let the murderer in through the back door at night and disabling the cameras or having a prisoner kill epstein as the cops look the other way or whatever.

# ? Aug 29, 2019 11:32

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I don't think Woozy has any real sense

You should have stopped there.

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comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

lol fox news was asking obvious questions and bringing on disbelieving forensic analysts
https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/jeffrey-epsteins-death-ruled-suicide-by-hanging

quote:

DR. CYRIL WECHT, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Yes, I'm here.

PAYNE: Yes, hi.

Yesterday, you were very -- it seemed like you were very skeptical about the notion that perhaps his hyoid bone could have been broken. And now we do have the official autopsy report. What are your thoughts?

WECHT: Did I hear your reporter in his comments say that he was found kneeling into -- into the rope with bedpost -- the bedsheet attached to the bedpost? Did I hear the word kneeling?

(CROSSTALK)

PAYNE: Doctor, he said he had the bedsheet, tied into the bunk, knelt toward the floor, and then committed suicide.

WECHT: OK.

All right, I'm going to tell you, I will repeat this. And you do not from a kneeling position with a bedsheet attached to the bedpost break the hyoid bone, which is high up under the mandible, and also cervical vertebrae.

We haven't yet heard -- I haven't -- about how many vertebrae. They used the plural. They said fractures. And you don't break vertebrae in a suicidal hanging in which the scenario is a leaning into.

If he hurled himself off the top bunk bed, that could have then occurred, because you have got a 200-pound-plus person with that kind of force imparted by the velocity of the dropping-down body.

But if that kind of hanging occurred, with Epstein attaching the bedsheet to the bedpost and then kneeling down like Robin Williams did some months ago, kneeling down from the doorknob, you do not break your hyoid bone and your cervical vertebrae.

And insofar as this business about brittleness, this is not a 75-year-old postmenopausal woman who has osteoporosis. This is a 66-year-old guy. Sure, the bones are somewhat more brittle than a 35-year-old guy. But I'm not aware that this is somebody that looks like he had osteoporosis with that kind of weakened bones.

So that is not a rationalization or an explanation for those kinds of fractures. I want to hear more. If they tell me he hurtled himself down, fine. But if they're telling me that he was just kneeling down, and he broke the hyoid bone and the cervical vertebrae, no way, with all due respect to the fine forensic pathologist there at the NYC Medical Examiner's Office and my colleague who is an observer.

I'm sorry, I do not buy that. I have never seen that. I have never heard of that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_Wecht

quote:

Cyril Harrison Wecht (born March 20, 1931) is an American forensic pathologist. He has been a consultant in numerous high-profile cases, but is perhaps best known for his criticism of the Warren Commission's findings concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

later in the segment:

quote:

But we have got the DOJ, the FBI, and the Bureau of Prisons to figure out the other circumstances here that allowed Epstein to do what the examiner now says was a suicide by hanging, because, ultimately, again, if this person -- if Epstein was on suicide watch and then taken off six days later, there are some wardens out there that say there's no way that a prisoner should have been able to have a double bunk bed, there's no way that the prisoner would have gotten a bedsheet.

And that is why there are all these questions. And that is why the DOJ and everyone else is asking for transparency.

...

And that's what they're ruling this. And we're waiting for more information right now. But to your point, when you go through this, and they say it's a suicide watch, because, on July 23, he had injuries -- Jeffrey Epstein claimed that he was beaten by a cellmate.

And they checked that out, and they ruled that these were self-inflicted injuries, and they placed him on suicide watch for six days. And the process when you're on suicide watch is that you are placed in a cell that has cameras and it has 24-hour surveillance.

...

But you talked about the model of the cell themselves. Even when you're placed off of suicide watch, a lot of inmates in there, former inmates, will say, there are not supposed to be bunk beds, there's not supposed to be any lights or anything you can attach anything to of height that would offer the opportunity to commit suicide.

And the bedsheets themselves are supposed to be paperweight strength, meaning they're not much stronger than thick paper towels, maybe not very comfortable, but at least they wouldn't facilitate a suicide. That's what a lot of the inmates are saying.

...

So this is why he was put in the special housing unit. And so we're going to talk here -- I think moving forward, Trace, part of the thing is those surveillance cameras too and the hallways...

GALLAGHER: Yes.

LLENAS: ... to take a look and see what those guards were doing at the time.

GALLAGHER: Yes. And that is a great question.

And what you bring up is a great point, Bryan, about the fact that not only a high-profile inmate, but potentially and possibly the highest profile inmate in any jail in the country at that point in time.

...

So it begs the question. When you have the highest profile inmate in the country in your care, do you not have cameras on the cell? Do you not have more than every-30-minute observations on the cell? That's the question we're going forward.

I want to bring in Dr. Nesheiwat, because he (sic) can give us a little more insight.

It's ruled suicide, Doctor. What is your -- what is your -- your thought on this finding so far?

DR. JANETTE NESHEIWAT, FAMILY AND EMERGENCY MEDICINE: Well, so far, we have to understand, Trace, that suicide, when you're hyoid bone is broken, usually, it's homicidal strangulation, you're choked.

And my concern is, was he injured by his cellmate? He was -- he claimed he was choked. Apparently, there were bruises around his neck. I want to know, did he see a doctor after that injury? Was he examined? Did he get an X-ray of his neck?

Maybe is it possible that he sustained some of these injuries during that time, and it's now being picked up? Because according to the medical examiner, if she's saying that it's suicide, it's like the doctor that we - - that you spoke to earlier. You need force.

Unless he -- if he's about 6 feet tall, and his bed is about 5 feet up, that gives you 11, 12 feet to jump off of. You need force that type of fracture. And on top of that, it's multiple fractures. It's not just one.

So I want to know, was the cartilage damaged, in addition to the hyoid bone? Did he have any cervical fractures as well? So we need some more information, but only a small percentage of fractures from suicide happen via what he did in the jail cells.

So we definitely need to see the report in detail. Initially, also, we're told that he had bleeding, what we call petechial hemorrhage, which means the pressures increased in his head.

...

NESHEIWAT: It's possible.

But the thing is, Trace, it's rare, but multiple fractures? I can understand maybe the hyoid, just maybe one fracture, maybe a mandible fracture, maybe a cervical fracture.

But to have multiple fractures, and understanding that his cellmate was some big muscular person who Epstein himself said he was attacked and beaten -- why would he make that up? And then why did they transfer his cellmate out of the jail?

I suspect that maybe he had some injuries, if he was truly attacked, or maybe he did something to his -- to himself when he did have a cellmate. We don't know. So the video footage and the surveillance is crucial.

And then we need to see -- I really need to see the autopsy report in detail to see where the fractures are.

this is probably part of the reason why when you poll people, republicans are far more likely to disbelieve the official epstein story

comedyblissoption has issued a correction as of 12:05 on Aug 29, 2019

# ? Aug 29, 2019 12:01

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

the wikipedia articles on jeffstein's death seems to be a useful collation of information

https://www.newsweek.com/epstein-death-murder-suicide-victims-hearing-1456397

quote:

Epstein Lawyers Say Evidence 'Far More Consistent' With Murder Than Suicide
...
"We did not see a despairing, despondent, suicidal person," one of the defense attorneys announced to a packed courtroom in Lower Manhattan on Tuesday, adding that he was troubled by reports that surveillance cameras recording the surroundings of Epstein's cell "were either corrupted or not functioning."

Defense counsel further alleged that the medical examiner who concluded that suicide was the final cause of death only saw nine minutes of footage from one security camera to help arrive at that determination.
...
"There are conspiracy theories galore," one of the attorneys said. "What if the tapes only broke down on the day he was killed or he died?"
...
A second defense counsel announced that "we have a profound problem with the conclusions of the medical examiner." He explained that the death occurred just around the time Epstein's lawyers were going to pursue an appeal regarding some of the preliminary decisions made before trial. They thought they had a high chance of success because, as his defense counsel colleague put it, lawyers involved in the original 2008 non-prosecution agreement that largely let Epstein off the hook for the full measure of the allegations levied against him said it was "global," meaning that New York prosecutors would not be allowed to pursue this case.

Citing lawyers involved in the 2008 agreement, the attorney told Berman that "every one of those lawyers believes" that the New York case should not have been allowed to proceed. Given their faith in the strength of this argument, they allege, Epstein's decision to take his own life was somewhat inexplicable.

# ? Aug 29, 2019 12:13

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...in_epstein_case

quote:

Wednesday, August 14, 2019

Americans aren�t buying that disgraced financier and convicted sex criminal Jeffrey Epstein killed himself in jail last weekend.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that only 29% of American Adults believe Epstein actually committed suicide while in jail. Forty-two percent (42%) think Epstein was murdered to prevent him from testifying against powerful people with whom he associated. A sizable 29% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Sixty-seven percent (67%) say they have closely followed news reports about Epstein, with 25% who have followed Very Closely.

Among Americans who have been following the story Very Closely, 56% say Epstein was murdered.

The survey of 1,000 American Adults was conducted on August 12-13, 2019 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Former President Bill Clinton is perhaps the most prominent person linked to Epstein. Fifty-three percent (53%) of voters said in June of last year that Clinton is a sexual predator.

Men are more likely than women to think Epstein was murdered. Whites are less suspicious than blacks and other minority adults.

Middle-aged voters are the most likely to suspect foul play.

Most Americans think the rich and famous get preferential treatment when they break the law.

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comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

lol that's a very large amount of americans crack pinging statistically speaking

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comedyblissoption posted:

. it's just going to be paying off a couple corrupt cops to let the murderer in through the back door at night and disabling the cameras or having a prisoner kill epstein as the cops look the other way or whatever.

You dont let some random into the prison. Either the guards look the other way while prisoners do it, or the guards do it themselves.

# ? Aug 29, 2019 12:40

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