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site posted:is going from bellhop to red skull technically a glow up I mean, he's probably doing a lot better, financially speaking. Since the regularly have both Spidey and Deadpool make Marvel Handbook jokes, it'd be amusing to have them razz Skull about this.
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This will have as much lasting impact as when Waid introduced hypertime to fix DC continuity
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Aug 25, 2019 22:44
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Are there any continuity "fixes" that actually fixed anything? The closest I can think of is the Jean Grey Phoenix thing, but for the last 30 years its been mostly ignored and the main effect was absolutely destroying Madeline Pryor as a character.
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Aug 25, 2019 22:55
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Sliding time scale works as a general "gently caress it" band-aid.
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Aug 25, 2019 23:04
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You want to fix continuity? Like permenately? Reboot everything. Put every hero in their own universe. Even if the same characters are used, if a new writers in charge, have the old writer finish everything in an actual finale and then start from scratch. Anything else is a band-aid. Edit: The joke is no one would want this, before anyone says anything.
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Mulva posted:Sliding time scale works as a general "gently caress it" band-aid. I mean like specifically written poo poo, not just ignoring contradictions like Spider-Man being in his late 20s and also once having teamed up with John Belushi.
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Skwirl posted:Are there any continuity "fixes" that actually fixed anything? The closest I can think of is the Jean Grey Phoenix thing, but for the last 30 years its been mostly ignored and the main effect was absolutely destroying Madeline Pryor as a character. The Captains America that were around when Steve Rogers was frozen
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:The Captains America that were around when Steve Rogers was frozen So it's been over 50 years.
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Skwirl posted:Are there any continuity "fixes" that actually fixed anything? The closest I can think of is the Jean Grey Phoenix thing, but for the last 30 years its been mostly ignored and the main effect was absolutely destroying Madeline Pryor as a character.
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Serial fiction generally doesn't mesh with realistic continuity and it only gets worse the longer it goes on.
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Lobok posted:Serial fiction generally doesn't mesh with realistic continuity and it only gets worse the longer it goes on. Well, it does if it's not serial fiction that involves the perpetual marketability of an unchanging core cast of characters. There are tonnes of boring newspaper strips where the characters aged in real time for decades.
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Skwirl posted:Are there any continuity "fixes" that actually fixed anything? The closest I can think of is the Jean Grey Phoenix thing, but for the last 30 years its been mostly ignored and the main effect was absolutely destroying Madeline Pryor as a character. Continuity is, to some large degree, made of the things that readers, writers, and editors remember, repeat, and build upon. Trying to quietly note a change to well-known bits of character history in ancillary matter will always be less “sticky” than smashing through the window and saying “VENOM IS DRIPPY OIL FROM A POINTY DEATH GOD NOW OK. NIGHTCRAWLER IS THE DOUBLE-DICKED SON OF MUTANT DEMONS” as loudly as you can, and building a long run around those things.
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Android Blues posted:Well, it does if it's not serial fiction that involves the perpetual marketability of an unchanging core cast of characters. There are tonnes of boring newspaper strips where the characters aged in real time for decades. For the rest of them, Mary Worth has been an older busybody since she debuted in 1938. Pretty much everything else (and to a degree some of the ones mentioned above) work on the same level of continuity as superhero comics, where Blondie & Dagwood or Dick Tracy or Popeye are still young-ish/early-middle aged folks who have had babies that have grown into young adulthood over the course of 50-60 years.
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Android Blues posted:Well, it does if it's not serial fiction that involves the perpetual marketability of an unchanging core cast of characters. There are tonnes of boring newspaper strips where the characters aged in real time for decades. Sure, and obviously the big difference is how much they're allowed to change but those strips tend to also be way less tight with how connected the storylines are. A year's worth of superhero comic books might only cover several days of story because there aren't even seconds to spare between the end of one issue and the beginning of the next. Real time ageing wouldn't make sense unless there were huge gaps between storylines at pretty regular intervals to allow for catch-up but of course since all the characters' stories are intertwined across the company that wouldn't really work either. Lobok fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Aug 26, 2019 |
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Aug 26, 2019 01:18
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Every character should transition to their Old Man version in real time. Let spider-man become middle aged and get male pattern baldness 
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Billzasilver posted:Every character should transition to their Old Man version in real time. Let spider-man become middle aged and get male pattern baldness Let me tell you about a book called Spider-Man: Life Story...
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I feel like I read a single issue or backup story of every Agent of Atlas reboot and nothing else. But also it kind of seems like they (at least the original team) haven't ever managed to advance the plot? The new team is pretty cool though.
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Ewing following up on the Kree/Skrull hybrids story arc from his already mostly-forgotten New Avengers run seems like an odd thing to use as the foundation for a big crossover event years later, but I can certainly think of worse ideas.
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Aug 27, 2019 17:05
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buried in the back of marvel 1000 is a page specifically designed to send rhyno into conniptions
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I have trouble keeping my performative grudges straight, what about that page inspires such ire?
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Aug 28, 2019 17:41
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It's been 5 years and they haven't even finished reprinting the existing issues.
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Rhyno posted:It's been 5 years and they haven't even finished reprinting the existing issues. Isn't this due to Gaiman getting busy and them holding off on their plans to accommodate his schedule?
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In fairness to Marvel I think that's because no one bought the reprints. They should have just put them out as Graphic Novels, probably could have them written up in the New York Times either in the the Arts section or in the Book section.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Isn't this due to Gaiman getting busy and them holding off on their plans to accommodate his schedule? Maybe? There was also reports that they discovered they did not actually own MM at the time. They've since said all problems have been sorted out bit still nothing.
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Yeah there was a pause in the Gaiman stuff for a while when they sorted it out, and then they did a second wave and seemingly finished it off (or at least the story arch I guess). Then nothing.
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Thinking about it, I'd have preferred it if the last issue of Spider-Man: Life Story had been more about Spider-Man. Getting him into space to deal with some offscreen Doctor Doom thing in the wake of Civil War is all well and good, but it seems like a waste to have done it like that when the "Ends of the Earth" plot from Slott's ASM was right there already.
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Wanderer posted:Thinking about it, I'd have preferred it if the last issue of Spider-Man: Life Story had been more about Spider-Man. Getting him into space to deal with some offscreen Doctor Doom thing in the wake of Civil War is all well and good, but it seems like a waste to have done it like that when the "Ends of the Earth" plot from Slott's ASM was right there already. While that's true, the symbiote being unable to not help Peter and stretching across the hole in the ship was definitely a really good moment that got me a little teared up.
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Wanderer posted:Thinking about it, I'd have preferred it if the last issue of Spider-Man: Life Story had been more about Spider-Man. Getting him into space to deal with some offscreen Doctor Doom thing in the wake of Civil War is all well and good, but it seems like a waste to have done it like that when the "Ends of the Earth" plot from Slott's ASM was right there already. El Tortuga posted:While that's true, the symbiote being unable to not help Peter and stretching across the hole in the ship was definitely a really good moment that got me a little teared up. Also, Friendly Neighbourhood And Marvel #1000 was fantastic. It had not-terrible Greg Land art in it! Not great, but not actively harmful to the story either (although it was Conway, so it'd have to be horrendous to really harm it) I guess that's the Masked Raider's eyes in the Incoming teaser, on account of the Eternity Mask thing? And we get some Agents of Atlas love. And Eli back with the Young Avengers! For a one time thing. Dang, it was all great. Oh and Power Pack: Grow Up! also came out today and was great.
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i cant say i expected that to be the end of life story, but i'd be lying if i said i didnt start tearing up as soon as the symbiote covered the breach all the way to the end e: thinking about it, it is kinda :thinking_face: that the story goes immediatley from the explosion to miles and then miles and mj without even a mention of whether pete's sacrifice was successful and meaningful, like after all the previous oversized issues they couldnt even give chip enough pages in this one to actually wrap up what story he had site fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Aug 29, 2019 01:18
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Marvel 1000 served me and I don't appreciate it
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Man, Marvel 1000 would've been much more in my wheelhouse if it was just the focused single pages without the connecting story. Just give a whole bunch of writers/artists a chance to really go for it. Also, called it: Cloks posted:Yeah, I reread it looking for plot threads that haven't been followed up on and was reminded that Kraven has the symbiote suit.
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Cloks posted:Man, Marvel 1000 would've been much more in my wheelhouse if it was just the focused single pages without the connecting story. Just give a whole bunch of writers/artists a chance to really go for it. I wonder if that's what Marvel Comics #1001 is going to be.
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Aug 29, 2019 07:04
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Thor 16 was a great ending to Aaron's run. I'm gonna miss him; his whole run is one of the best Thor runs for me (obviously behind Simonson). Marvel hasn't announced the new writer yet, right?
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radlum posted:Thor 16 was a great ending to Aaron's run. I'm gonna miss him; his whole run is one of the best Thor runs for me (obviously behind Simonson). Marvel hasn't announced the new writer yet, right? The run has not ended yet as their is king Thor
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Cloks posted:Also, called it:
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Edge & Christian posted:Based on the final issue, I think you will find that in Soviet Russia, the symbiote suit has Kraven. Boo.
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I just finished Marvel 1000 and while it was pretty good on the whole, I do find some of the pages funny (funny's not the right word... maybe irksome?) on years that they apparently just couldn't find something that great. Like, I get that these giant collaborations are not easy and probably come down to "hey just find something that happened in [year] and make one page about it" but the first half of the book are a lot of "character (not even necessarily an A-list character!) is introduced" as major moments and as it gets later it's just "uhhh, Erik Larsen wrote and drew Spider-Man in 1992, so lets have Erik Larsen write and draw a page of Spider-Man!" Like, come on guys, it took me two seconds to google "superhero debut 1992" to learn that War Machine debuted there but I guess no one likes him enough to give poor Rhodey a page. Or a lot of Spider-Man adjacent pages. Oh, the symbiote suit appeared in '84, let's have... a page where Spider-Man shows up in his normal costume and gets a baby named after Uncle Ben instead of something related to Venom... or even just the same page with Spider-Man in the black suit! Or, the Clone Saga started in '94, here's yet another page about Peter's crippling guilt instead of Scarlet Spider. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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i havent finished it yet, but things like having a page about america chavez in the early part of the book because a completely different character named miss america debuted was an odd choice, as was having ewing write fully half the book but not have him do the hulk page, but the thing that made me laugh the hardest so far was having kareem abdul-jabbar write the jessica jones page and then having LITERALLY THE NEXT PAGE be kelly thompson writing someone else i said this elsewhere but i think this wouldve worked better on the whole if they just had ewing write a big one shot and then do separate retrospective book instead of advertising it as this big retrospective thats actually incredibly heavy on the male creators and having one guy write half the book for some interstitial narrative site fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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God help me. Please. Because Brad Meltzer's page was one of my favorites in the whole book and gently caress that can't be right.
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