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Pham Nuwen: Oct 30, 2010

ovenboy posted:

All this talk about the typical sci-fi author being a weirding lay makes me think... What genre fiction has the most virtous authors?

Oddly, it's Chuck Tingle.

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BeanpolePeckerwood: May 4, 2004; I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK

Zyklon B Zombie posted:

Welp, I just got to the part in Heretics where Duncan Idaho defeats an Honored Matres in a sex duel because he was secretly programmed by the Bene Tleilax to be a stealth sex weapon.

Teenage Beanpole's favorite 2.5 pages.

Oyak posted:

Thank you for bringing up Horselover Fat. To be fair, he was bad in a different way from the usual "pervy old man" self-insert. Horselover was bad because he was incomprehensible. PKD must have felt like he was totally dunking on the reader by writing a trilogy full of references to Gnosticism and numerology, but in practice, it's no different from reading the unpublishable scraps they compiled into "Exegesis of Philip K. Dick."

On the positive side: Horselover has a great, lifesaving interaction with his psychiatrist in the beginning of VALIS. VERY long story short, the psychiatrist tells Horselover, "you are the expert," and Horselover's will to live is restored.

I suspect PKD was longing for somebody to say, we love you PKD! You are smart! Nobody knows more about archaic religious beliefs than you!

I mean, he was actively documenting his own progression into schizophrenia, I'll give the guy a break.

# ? Aug 27, 2019 20:58

Johnny Aztec: Jan 30, 2005; by Hand Knit

Virtous doesn't exist. Anyone who claims to be is a liar and a fool.

# ? Aug 27, 2019 21:04

priznat: Jul 7, 2009; Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Beloved children�s author Roald Dahl wrote some pretty risqu� adult fiction (which was also pretty great)

# ? Aug 27, 2019 21:11

BeanpolePeckerwood: May 4, 2004; I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK

priznat posted:

Beloved children�s author Roald Dahl wrote some pretty risqu� adult fiction (which was also pretty great)

It's better than his children's books, too

# ? Aug 27, 2019 21:13

whydirt: Apr 18, 2001; Gaz Posting Brigade

Ramc posted:

It was fall again, and with the changing of the leaves the ancient Frank Herbert dared.

Braving the teeming water-fat masses of the outside world he made his way and at altar of the fish-wife goddess he made his demands of the barista.

"The spice." he hissed, his voice a dusty rasp, almost a whisper. "It must flow."

The servant prepared his beverage- the spice coffee- and the cinnamon and nutmeg smell of melange teased his nostrils.

"So, uh, sir, do you want your senior discount?" the barista inquired

"The geriatric discount??"

"Uh, yeah, so that's ten cents off..."

"Ah-h-h-h" Frank smiled in triumph, producing- just as he had foreseen- an additional coupon and slid it across the counter.

Deals within deals...

# ? Aug 27, 2019 21:19

Nooner: Mar 26, 2011; AN A+ OPSTER (:

ive never read any of the books or seen any of teh movies so im going to leave this thread, bye everyone (:

# ? Aug 27, 2019 21:19

priznat: Jul 7, 2009; Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

It's better than his children's books, too

I like em all. His autobiographies are downright fascinating too, he had quite the life working in Africa then tasked with rounding up Germans when WW2 started and then becoming a fighter pilot, crashing, recovering, more fighter piloting, secret missions in Palestine, and other stuff.

# ? Aug 27, 2019 21:19

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Johnny Aztec posted:

Virtous doesn't exist. Anyone who claims to be is a liar and a fool.

I'm a Virtous

# ? Aug 27, 2019 21:35

sebmojo: Oct 23, 2010; Legit Cyberpunk

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

Teenage Beanpole's favorite 2.5 pages.

'The hard slap of his ejaculation' is a phrase that, uh, stuck with me

# ? Aug 27, 2019 21:49

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

Zyklon B Zombie posted:

Welp, I just got to the part in Heretics where Duncan Idaho defeats an Honored Matres in a sex duel because he was secretly programmed by the Bene Tleilax to be a stealth sex weapon.

Honored Matres sounds like something that would be a porn movie.

Women who ravish and control men with their secret sexual superpowers.

# ? Aug 27, 2019 22:56

SniperWoreConverse: Mar 20, 2010; Gun Saliva

Ramc posted:

It was fall again, and with the changing of the leaves the ancient Frank Herbert dared.

Braving the teeming water-fat masses of the outside world he made his way and at altar of the fish-wife goddess he made his demands of the barista.

"The spice." he hissed, his voice a dusty rasp, almost a whisper. "It must flow."

The servant prepared his beverage- the spice coffee- and the cinnamon and nutmeg smell of melange teased his nostrils.

"So, uh, sir, do you want your senior discount?" the barista inquired

"The geriatric discount??"

"Uh, yeah, so that's ten cents off..."

"Ah-h-h-h" Frank smiled in triumph, producing- just as he had foreseen- an additional coupon and slid it across the counter.

Deals within deals...

# ? Aug 27, 2019 22:58

the_enduser: May 1, 2006; They say the user lives outside the net.

Do you think @duneauthor was touched by @realduneauthor?

# ? Aug 28, 2019 02:38

Winifred Madgers: Feb 12, 2002

ovenboy posted:

All this talk about the typical sci-fi author being a weirding lay makes me think... What genre fiction has the most virtous authors?

lol

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Yadoppsi: May 10, 2009

D. Ebdrup posted:

I also have a suspicion that to a certain extend it's cultural because while I certainly know there are things that involve sex in Dune, they're completely unmemorable to me, and I think this might be because I'm from Denmark - a country where porno was legalized in the 70s, nudity is nothing more than a lack of clothing, and there is a lot more of a relaxed attitude towards sex in general.

Then again, I also feel the same way about Time Enough For Love and that was Heinlein trying his damned to be a dirty old man for the express purpose of not giving a gently caress and testing out how far he could take things. So maybe I'm just a dirty old man?
Conversely, Heinlein spent most of his writing career proving that a writer doesn't have to hold the views they espouses in their books, which is most prominently reflected in the fact that he wrote Starship Troopers which some people use to prove that he's an authoritarian who wants the military might, and at the same time he had to actually threaten hippies to get off his property after having written Stranger In A Strange Land.
Similarily, his streak of seeing how far he could take things is quite plain for anyone who's read The Number Of The Beast after some reviewers criticized his books for containing self-insert heroes (the Big Baddie in TNOTB is literally an anagram of his own name and is meant to represent himself). Interestingly, I think TNOTB is also chronologically the last book in his Future History universe, where the multiple timelines have become interchanged.

EDIT: I hope this isn't too much of a derail in a Dune thread.

This revisionist hagiography of Heinlein can only be sustained if you ignore his actual interventions into real world politics. They always align with right-wing reaction. His first foray into politics was the creation and promotion of the Patrick Henry League, a group promoting the wider adoption of nuclear bombs as weapons of war.

Edit) he also campaigned heavily for Barry Goldwater and late in life said his views from the Upton Sinclair days were "politically naive"

Edit 2)This John Dolan interview of David Forbes, author of The Old Iron Dream, is a great and entertaing overview of reaction in the history of Sci-fi, why apocalypse novels so often recreate the social structures of the white suburban patriarch, and so much more:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/rwn-ep-64-repost-12256665

Yadoppsi fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Aug 28, 2019

# ? Aug 28, 2019 08:51

Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017; Exploration is ill-advised.

Zyklon B Zombie posted:

Welp, I just got to the part in Heretics where Duncan Idaho defeats an Honored Matres in a sex duel because he was secretly programmed by the Bene Tleilax to be a stealth sex weapon.

Picturing this like a dbz battle

# ? Aug 28, 2019 09:09

RedSnapper: Nov 22, 2016

ovenboy posted:

All this talk about the typical sci-fi author being a weirding lay makes me think... What genre fiction has the most virtous authors?

Sadly, also sci-fi.

# ? Aug 28, 2019 09:13

bij: Feb 24, 2007

Vaginal kung-fu and witch weirding aside, House Ordos maintains the cruel efficiency that is forsaken by other great Houses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QPdL7ffsN8

bij fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Aug 28, 2019

# ? Aug 28, 2019 10:46

Kanine: Aug 5, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

does anyone have specific recommendations on writings about dune and orientalism in sci fi?

# ? Aug 28, 2019 21:59

Decrepus: May 21, 2008; In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.

Ramc posted:

It was fall again, and with the changing of the leaves the ancient Frank Herbert dared.

Braving the teeming water-fat masses of the outside world he made his way and at altar of the fish-wife goddess he made his demands of the barista.

"The spice." he hissed, his voice a dusty rasp, almost a whisper. "It must flow."

The servant prepared his beverage- the spice coffee- and the cinnamon and nutmeg smell of melange teased his nostrils.

"So, uh, sir, do you want your senior discount?" the barista inquired

"The geriatric discount??"

"Uh, yeah, so that's ten cents off..."

"Ah-h-h-h" Frank smiled in triumph, producing- just as he had foreseen- an additional coupon and slid it across the counter.

Deals within deals...