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Snow Cone Capone posted:This seems less like an unpopular opinion and more just you bitching about other people playing overwatch, tbh overwatch was a bad waste of sixty clams for me. even back in november of 2016 you couldn't be a new player without people screaming at you about basically not having played the game every day since launch. blizzard: "i know you haven't played the game for more than two hours and i know steam offers refunds if the game isn't working out for you but we aren't steam tough toasties" i don't know if the community has chilled out but considering that long tail player populations tend to be more highly skilled and hardcore, if anything it's probably gotten even more aggro
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I remember my friends all jumping on competitive mode when it released and became absolute dicks instantly. This fun goofy game was suddenly super serious and and someone actually genuinely got angry and yelled at me for being silly in it. gently caress overwatch
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Aug 29, 2019 13:30
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TF2 is a much better game than Overwatch and Valve just not bothering to put it on current gen consoles is the most Valve poo poo ever
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Aug 29, 2019 13:35
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abigserve posted:the time it takes to kill someone in overwatch should be a crime against humanity. watch people run away, the game if i shoot someone in the head with a shotgun they should just die. i guess i'm old fashioned like that
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Aug 29, 2019 17:11
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The White Dragon posted:overwatch was a bad waste of sixty clams for me. even back in november of 2016 you couldn't be a new player without people screaming at you about basically not having played the game every day since launch. i got it on release day because all my friends were super hype for it and oh my god it was just the worst shooter i'd played in ages when i first loaded it up, nothing has any heft to it so it's like playing a weird game of lasertag i think i played once since the first new character (ana?) came out for a halloween thing unpopular opinion that i've mentioned before: idk why but i find paladins infinitely more fun than overwatch
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Aug 29, 2019 17:15
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the Quake 1 mod Future vs Fantasy is much better than overwatch
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Aug 29, 2019 17:19
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The White Dragon posted:overwatch was a bad waste of sixty clams for me. even back in november of 2016 you couldn't be a new player without people screaming at you about basically not having played the game every day since launch. Fun fact: Top 500 players (you can see the list ingame) used to be silenced/suspended regularly just for playing good in the first year or two. By salty players reporting them.
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QuarkJets posted:Overwatch is a pretty popular game The White Dragon posted:overwatch was a bad waste of sixty clams for me. even back in november of 2016 you couldn't be a new player without people screaming at you about basically not having played the game every day since launch. Yeah I'm not disagreeing with you guys just saying that post was less an "Overwatch is bad" and more "gently caress the people I play with are so bad!"
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Aug 29, 2019 17:27
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My problem with Overwatch, and MOBAs, is they just keep on releasing more loving characters. TF2 had 9 characters with specific roles. Overwatch has something like 30 characters now and a few just feel like rehashes of other characters. You don't need 5 variations on "big guy in armor that deploys a shield." It also doesn't help they make every new character OP at first so people buy them. You'll have ample time to figure out they are OP because for a few weeks after they are released EVERY game has that character on both teams.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:32
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Rocket launcher was too weak in Doom 2016 and Mancubus were a bit too tanky. Also didn't like the low cap on ammo for the minigun etc.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:33
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limp_cheese posted:My problem with Overwatch, and MOBAs, is they just keep on releasing more loving characters. TF2 had 9 characters with specific roles. Overwatch has something like 30 characters now and a few just feel like rehashes of other characters. You don't need 5 variations on "big guy in armor that deploys a shield." Sounds like a doll-collecting game with an initial membership fee. lol blizzard
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Aug 29, 2019 17:43
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Rutibex posted:the Quake 1 mod Future vs Fantasy is much better than overwatch Quake had some insane mods for the time. FvF was my favorite too, but there was also crazy poo poo like one that let you fly a jet in the game, or that huge X-Men mod.
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Aug 29, 2019 17:47
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doctorfrog posted:Sounds like a doll-collecting game with an initial membership fee. lol blizzard No, that's World of Warcraft. The guy on here who gave away his dogs because they were cutting into his WoW time/got booted from the goon guild for trying to raid while his wife was giving birth? He was like top-5 in the world for collecting mounts. He didn't spend that time having fun or getting better at the game. He spent it collecting virtual horsies.
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abigserve posted:the time it takes to kill someone in overwatch should be a crime against humanity. watch people run away, the game Time to kill is okay (well it was when I played) if you don't add in the many many barriers/escapes people have. Like when you can't do actual damage to people 80% of the time it sucks. Oh sorry Reinhardt/D.va /Zarya etc. shield. Ohh Genji reflect/Reaper ghosty form. Overwatch is designed to minimize feeling bad. Less deaths, less individual blame. It isn't you who lost the game for your team, it was your team. However it was you who did that sweet ult and won the game for your team. Suck at aiming? It's okay you can still hit Reinhardt shield play a healer/Symmetra (not Torbjorn gently caress you Torbjorn has a good gun). Overwatch is aggressively ok.
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Duck and Cover posted:Time to kill is okay (well it was when I played) if you don't add in the many many barriers/escapes people have. Like when you can't do actual damage to people 80% of the time it sucks. Oh sorry Reinhardt/D.va /Zarya etc. shield. Ohh Genji reflect/Reaper ghosty form. Thing is I don't think it matters, you die all the time in TF2 especially when learning but your deaths are generally hilarious ragdolls, ludicrous gibs with the game helpfully pointing out which bits of you went where or Looney Tunes esque death animations and screams, either way entertaining. They specifically picked the aesthetic because it worked perfectly with the inherent absurdity of the team FPS formula.
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happyhippy posted:Fun fact: Top 500 players (you can see the list ingame) used to be silenced/suspended regularly just for playing good in the first year or two. Duck and Cover posted:Time to kill is okay (well it was when I played) if you don't add in the many many barriers/escapes people have. Like when you can't do actual damage to people 80% of the time it sucks. Oh sorry Reinhardt/D.va /Zarya etc. shield. Ohh Genji reflect/Reaper ghosty form.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Thing is I don't think it matters, you die all the time in TF2 especially when learning but your deaths are generally hilarious ragdolls, ludicrous gibs with the game helpfully pointing out which bits of you went where or Looney Tunes esque death animations and screams, either way entertaining. They specifically picked the aesthetic because it worked perfectly with the inherent absurdity of the team FPS formula. It's about making games for people who previously might not have played games. Healers exist in these games not because they make for a better game but because they allow someone to contribute without having much skill. Away all Goats posted:iirc one of the best snipers in the game complained to Blizzard about long wait times and when they looked into it they found most players had clicked 'avoid this player' on his profile because he was so good at sniping that other top players didn't want to face him. I felt at launch it was almost too many barriers/heals/escapes. They then continued to add barriers/heals/escapes. It sucks since Overwatch pretty hogged all the players so other better games failed to really become a thing. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Rutibex posted:the Quake 1 mod Future vs Fantasy is much better than overwatch Here's a game I can get behind
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Snow Cone Capone posted:The guy on here who gave away his dogs because they were cutting into his WoW time/got booted from the goon guild for trying to raid while his wife was giving birth It's sad when the best you can do for a guy who needs an intervention is to just cut him off and let him know his behavior is not OK. quote:the game is apparently 80% barriers now. Killing someone requires a bit of luck with hoping they walk into a hook or extend a little too far while the rest of the team shoots at barriers for most of the match. So, professional dota with anime.
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Whenever I played overwatch I just couldn't give a gently caress about who won or who lost I still think UT2k4 onslaught was a really cool mode, simple but well executed
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Away all Goats posted:I've been on and off watching Overwatch league (I know...) the last few weeks and the game is apparently 80% barriers now. Killing someone requires a bit of luck with hoping they walk into a hook or extend a little too far while the rest of the team shoots at barriers for most of the match. There was something about Overwatch that was bugging me and I didn't know what it was until a friend mentioned how no one is Overwatch is really that powerful. In TF2 you can kill half the team without an uber if you're good and lucky. In Overwatch you're lucky to kill 2 people with an ult. It really slows down the game and makes all the charcters feel like they are weak as hell. I also miss games that had larger player counts. gently caress 6v6. Give me 12v12 at a minimum. TF2 16v16 is so chaotic and fun.
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"Ultimate attacks" in an FPS is a loving idiotic idea.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:"Ultimate attacks" in an FPS is a loving idiotic idea. 
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That's just a goofy-powerful gun, but ok I'll clarify: "Ultimate attacks" in a multiplayer FPS is a loving idiotic idea
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Snow Cone Capone posted:That's just a goofy-powerful gun, but ok I'll clarify: But but but I earned that redeemer!
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Aug 29, 2019 21:20
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Duck and Cover posted:But but but I earned that mapwide airstrike!
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Duck and Cover posted:But but but I earned that redeemer! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GflAdGmMjtQ
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Snow Cone Capone posted:"Ultimate attacks" in an FPS is a loving idiotic idea. i guess theres some strategy behind waiting to activate the "gently caress you" button but ill admit i hate them. limp_cheese posted:I also miss games that had larger player counts. gently caress 6v6. Give me 12v12 at a minimum. TF2 16v16 is so chaotic and fun. hell yeah
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limp_cheese posted:I also miss games that had larger player counts. gently caress 6v6. Give me 12v12 at a minimum. TF2 16v16 is so chaotic and fun. I played Planetside 2 for an embarrassingly long amount of time because of this. It's just so fun managing to sneak up on like 30-40+ people huddled around an APC and blowing them all up. Overwatch could definitely benefit from game modes with larger team sizes, mostly because you don't have to rely on 1/3rd of the team to be healers.
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I'd like to hire 39 other people just to play infantry online with me  Man I miss that game, best multiplayer experience I've had even if the community was a garbage dump.
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FPS opinion: KISS_OFF.mid is the high point of Rise of the Triad, and indeed of human culture
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SilvergunSuperman posted:I'd like to hire 39 other people just to play infantry online with me The feels. That one and Silent Death Online are my old dead favorites. RIP little online games.
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I recall playing Infantry Online during 9/11, that was a fun chat. Lots of people who may signed up for Infantry Offline.
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All team based competitive multiplayer games are bad and not fun. Except for Splatoon. Splatoon owns.
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Away all Goats posted:iirc one of the best snipers in the game complained to Blizzard about long wait times and when they looked into it they found most players had clicked 'avoid this player' on his profile because he was so good at sniping that other top players didn't want to face him. Matchmaking services are trash. Good games that aren't for cowards make people run their own servers and hit the ban button themselves.
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internet celebrity posted:All team based competitive multiplayer games are bad and not fun. Except for Splatoon. Splatoon owns. Left 4 Dead is p fun
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Away all Goats posted:I played Planetside 2 for an embarrassingly long amount of time because of this. It's just so fun managing to sneak up on like 30-40+ people huddled around an APC and blowing them all up. Command and Conquer Renegade was one of my favorite games. Getting 6 people together and rushing a base with flame tanks or an APC was incredibly rewarding when it worked. Its too bad most maps had horrible choke points that devolved into half the team in tanks just firing at the base entrance so one team couldn't get out. It was possible to break it but it was near impossible.
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Duck and Cover posted:Time to kill is okay (well it was when I played) if you don't add in the many many barriers/escapes people have. Like when you can't do actual damage to people 80% of the time it sucks. Oh sorry Reinhardt/D.va /Zarya etc. shield. Ohh Genji reflect/Reaper ghosty form. yeah this is it, most characters have some form of escape or shield. Even the classic archetype of "risky sniper class", widowmaker, can hookline all over the loving place. Then you have some ultimates that offer further damage reducton, healers, healer ults, and it's just horrible
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