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FuturePastNow posted:Are there any good Illinois politics people I should be following on the twitters? Rich Miller/capitol fax for state politics Ad quig, Amanda kass, Daniel Kay Hertz for city stuff
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Anybody got any hot takes on IL-12, 13, or 15 for 2020 congressional elections? 12 is an Obama-Trump district, which has flipped before. It's fairly suburban but Bost won re-election handily in 2018. 13 and 15 break Edwardsville off from the rest of the Greater StL metro and are both seriously weird districts.
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loving Bost! I came here to post that Trump is teasing a commutation of Blago’s sentence...how will the chuds respond?!?!?!? They will. E hypocritical about it Also, I posted an article about how Jim Edgar (referred to as the last down state governor) blasted the “kick Chicago out of Illinois” group as idiots who have not done anything because they do not know how to do anything. A guy commented and told me that George Ryan was the last downstate governor of Illinois. When I told him that Ryan was from Kankakee, he told me that Kankakee was this guy’s hometown and they “always felt downstate”. 
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Aug 8, 2019 04:37
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Tbh anything outside of Joliet and Aurora is downstate.
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Aug 8, 2019 15:02
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esquilax posted:Tbh anything outside of Joliet and Aurora is downstate. Rockford and south Beloit are downstate. I'd say anything not on the metra is but even that might be overbroad
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Aug 8, 2019 15:30
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As someone who' was born and raised in Rockford, lived in Dekalb, and moved to Springfield and been around people from rural Illinois towns like Hillsboro and Litchfield. Rockford is pretty amicable to Chicago. They are very much not downstate. You get the occasional, "well all of the drug dealers from Chicago are coming here to commit rape and murder thing". But generally most people I've been around in Rockford don't hate it. Down here "they" fuuuucking haaaaaate Chicago. Dexo fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Aug 8, 2019 |
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Aug 8, 2019 16:11
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Dexo posted:Down here "they" fuuuucking haaaaaate Chicago. Nobody hates Chicago more than the racist gun-humpers down here.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:17
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Having to hear that garbage really angers me because I would be dead without ICHIP paying for my UofC surgeon.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:13
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They don't realize that without Chicago, this would be the poorest state in the country. Those rural communities rely on funding coming out of Chicago.
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Aug 8, 2019 18:36
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Niwrad posted:They don't realize that without Chicago, this would be the poorest state in the country. Those rural communities rely on funding coming out of Chicago. Also many from pretty far out commute to Chicago (to insane distances) and/or telecommute with companies based in Chicago.
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Aug 8, 2019 18:39
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Niwrad posted:They don't realize that without Chicago, this would be the poorest state in the country. Those rural communities rely on funding coming out of Chicago. No no, you see Chicago takes all the money from downstate to support the welfare queens and gang members so they can buy drugs. My uncle from Metamora told me so.
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Aug 8, 2019 18:43
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Geographically and culturally, Kankakee is not downstate whatsoever. As was said, Chicago and the collar counties are providing so much money for central and southern Illinois. I have had people brag over and over again how they are going to move to Indiana or Missouri as soon as they can. It has been nice for me to tell them that those other states can have “lower taxes” only because states like Illinois are paying for them since those other states cannot take care of their own poo poo so they have to beg for money. They generally shut the gently caress up after that but occasionally I get someone who says that those other states could 1) do it themselves if they do choose since they have Republican leadership better than democrat (I then get to make fun of them for not doing it now because they are actually stupid) which then leads to 2) why shouldn’t they do it if Illinois is dumb enough to pay more money (which I then am able to say that that works for anyone on welfare the ln)
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Aug 8, 2019 21:12
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:It has been nice for me to tell them that those other states can have “lower taxes” only because states like Illinois are paying for them since those other states cannot take care of their own poo poo so they have to beg for money. I wonder why lol. That's a hell of a hot take.
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Aug 9, 2019 03:23
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Volkerball posted:I wonder why lol. That's a hell of a hot take. https://www.governing.com/week-in-finance/gov-taxpayers-10-states-give-more-feds-than-get-back.html 
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Badger of Basra posted:https://www.governing.com/week-in-finance/gov-taxpayers-10-states-give-more-feds-than-get-back.html Federal taxes don't have an impact on the state budget, as they are distinct from state taxes. From the report that article links to, Illinois residents per capita contribute $10,655 in federal taxes, which ranks 11th in the country. They then receive $10,292 in benefits through federal programs, which amounts to a -$364 shortfall per capita, and $4.6bn total annually. 97% of what Illinois residents contribute to federal taxes comes back to them, compared to 74% for Connecticut, 82% for New Jersey, and 83% for Massachusetts. Illinois' state pension debt, which Moody's puts at $250bn, represents $19,620 in debt per capita. The annual "shortfall" Illinois residents face when paying federal taxes represent 1/50th of what they are on the hook for when it comes to just the state pension fund. Illinois residents could stop paying federal tax altogether and put that money directly into the states coffers for a year and it would still barely cut that pension obligation in half. And that's not even getting into CPS, Chicago's pension, and all of the other state debt that's junk rated. That's why our state and local taxes are so high. You don't end up ranked 50th in a study listing states by fiscal condition if you can take care of your own poo poo. Volkerball fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Aug 9, 2019 |
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Aug 9, 2019 07:23
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Yes, let’s use Mercatus who lobbied the Bush administration to end “free market”regulation killers that helped lead to the Great Recession. Smart people! Also, intergovernment funding does play a part in state budgets. Yes, Illinois gets back 97% of what they put in but Indiana gets 130% of what they put in. Every extra penny that Indiana or any other neighboring state gets from the federal government is a penny that they do not have to use from their own budgets to provide those services. Now, those states can choose to direct that extra money to other programs or they can “cut taxes” since they do not need as much revenue. These states choose to keep their taxes low but one of the reasons that they can do that is because they take more federal money than they put in. Where does that money come from? Part of it comes from states like Connecticut and even Illinois.
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Badger of Basra posted:https://www.governing.com/week-in-finance/gov-taxpayers-10-states-give-more-feds-than-get-back.html Do note that on projections like this Virginia (and Maryland if you can see it) should usually be excluded because the density of Federal Government headquarters there way out of wack. There are some novel proposals about spreading them out across more states, since many don't necessarily need to be immediately next to DC. But this would probably just result in them going to the sunbelt or California rather than to the rust belt. Anyway back to making GBS threads on downstate dipshits like me.
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Aug 10, 2019 03:01
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Lol the idiot's going to do it https://twitter.com/fox32news/status/1160369877464387585
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Aug 11, 2019 12:58
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Piell posted:Lol the idiot's going to do it https://twitter.com/fox32news/status/1160369877464387585
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Aug 11, 2019 21:22
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There is literally no upside to him commuting Blago’s sentence. Even his own party is telling him not to.
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Bird in a Blender posted:There is literally no upside to him commuting Blago’s sentence. Even his own party is telling him not to. It sets a precedent of even more leniency for political criminals. Could be an upside one day!
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Aug 11, 2019 21:34
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Bird in a Blender posted:There is literally no upside to him commuting Blago’s sentence. Even his own party is telling him not to. Blagojevich is Q.
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Aug 11, 2019 21:37
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Blagojevich is JFK jr in disguise and will arrest Killary Clinton
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You dumbfuck https://twitter.com/MarkMaxwellTV/status/1163244869239955456?s=20
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Aug 19, 2019 22:26
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So Chicago, hosed or super hosed? I was not able to watch Lightfoot's speech last night.
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Bird in a Blender posted:So Chicago, hosed or super hosed? I was not able to watch Lightfoot's speech last night. $838 million budget deficit, so every so slightly less hosed than people were expecting. She mainly said the various things she is considering but a lot of them depend on the state giving us the power to do the thing (like tax services, or fix the casino plan). Property tax is still on the table if none of those things work out.
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Aug 30, 2019 12:53
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Couldn't that entire deficit be erased if we got rid of TIF districts?
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Aug 30, 2019 14:04
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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1167533712759824384 15th district.
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Aug 30, 2019 21:48
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Isn't that chud country?
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Niwrad posted:Isn't that chud country? It goes around Champaign and Urbana so yeah. Danville, Mattoon, Charleston, Effingham, and then all the poo poo south where no one lives. District shapes downstate are fuckin weird, man.
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If the entire deficit had to be paid for with a property tax increase, what would that translate to in terms of percentages?
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Property taxes wouldn't be bad if wealthy people and businesses actually paid the correct amount.
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Aug 30, 2019 23:49
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Chuu posted:If the entire deficit had to be paid for with a property tax increase, what would that translate to in terms of percentages? Budget last year was roughly 10b but will be 11b within 2 years and 12b two years after that due to pension ramps. I'll reiterate this below. I did a ton of work based on a tif document I found then ended up finding a pie chart anyways showing this all. City tifs brought in 841m. It's 12.5% of city levy, making city prop tax levy 6.7b , 45% (3b) of that goes to schools (that may increase with new tax) and rest to various city stuff. City itself gets 21.8, or 1.5b. So city is presumably getting 8.5b right now from other sources because I don't think that 10b includes schools but does include pensions, i need to check. Edit: ok I found this after doing all that dumb math. And I believe everything was balanced last year because the ramps hadn't kicked in  The city gets 1.5b in prop tax and wants to find another .8b immediately, 1.3 the year after, and about 2b 4 years out. So going back to the levy, we're at 6.7b total right now from prop tax. Add 2b to that total, and that's 8.7b. So a big, big increase but "only" by 1/3 over the next 4-5 years. Maybe kaegi can save everyone and get the mansions and corporate offices to carry all this. Considering rahm had already raised them, it's gonna go from like 5k to 15k over a decade on a lot of houses in places like North center that are nice but not mansions mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Aug 31, 2019 |
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Not technically Illinois, but right across the border. If you are near Hammond, go buy some tacos from this gentleman. https://www.chicagotribune.com/subu...h3iq-story.html
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mastershakeman posted:Edit: Hopefully I’m reading this right, and I know I’m repeating my question, but wouldn’t taking all of the TIF revenue solve the city’s budget problems this year? As far as I know, TIFs are just used as subsidies to developers. He’ll, the loop has a TIF district. We need to abolish these and put that tax money back into the general fund.
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Bird in a Blender posted:Hopefully I’m reading this right, and I know I’m repeating my question, but wouldn’t taking all of the TIF revenue solve the city’s budget problems this year? Not really no https://danielkayhertz.com/2018/09/20/are-tifs-taking-money-away-from-the-city/ I agree with abolishing them but they aren't the easy target they appear to be
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I misread pigeon as rider (no, I don't know how) and wasn't even surprised.
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That's my State Rep - he loves cops and focuses his time on pigeons, but nobody's challenging him even though most of his district is in Carlos Rosa and Rossana Rodriguez's wards.
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Rough day for west Cook County peeps. Summit, McCook, and Lyons village offices had the FBI stop by. Getty in Lyons is a supreme dirtbag, his handpicked school board candidates turned my old grade school in D103 into a shitshow. *** UPDATED x5 - Looking at McCook contractors - IRS involved - “Investigative activity” in Summit - Lyons mayor insurance office raided - Lyons, “other locations” also raided *** Report: “Multiple locations” raided by FBI
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