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It's nothing new but I also cant recall any other game that made its special launch celebration banner paid-only.
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Shwqa posted:Yeah I was just going to post the same thing. So like what is the point of giving premium currency if you can't use it for premium stuff? Android Gaming: This seems really scummy
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Aug 30, 2019 16:43
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PringleCreamEgg posted:I was playing Pokemon Masters and was finding it fairly fun and very cute, and earned the 3,000 gems needed for the featured ten pull. Only to see that there are both paid and not-paid gems and you can only do the featured ten pull that guarantees a five star with the paid gems.
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Aug 30, 2019 16:46
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Android Gaming: This seems really scummy
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Aug 30, 2019 16:59
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One of the things I hate with a passion is the premium pass thing popularised by Fortnite. Like where it hands you some paltry poo poo for free, but over there on the greyed out premium side, you could get a five star axe and a handful of whatever currency you are currently desperate for! It's one of the few ways AFK Arena is especially lovely, because there are a couple of different ongoing events, which you need to buy seperate £18 passes for.
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Aug 30, 2019 17:18
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I too hate games that give me almost, if not all the content for free
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Aug 30, 2019 17:35
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:I too hate games that give me almost, if not all the content for free To be fair it is essentially weaponizing FOMO, which is really effective for lots of people. 
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Aug 30, 2019 17:48
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Elephant Parade posted:It's in literally every mobage It's not in Epic 7 or Summoners War. Watch your wild generalizations.
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Aug 30, 2019 17:56
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CompeAnansi posted:It's not in Epic 7 or Summoners War. Watch your wild generalizations.
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Aug 30, 2019 18:13
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Android Gaming: This seems really scummy Android gaming: The Gacha Gotcha
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Aug 30, 2019 18:24
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Fenris13 posted:I played an Elune a bit at launch, but when the first event came around and I saw that the SSR reward was only given out to the top 100 participants, which is a stupid pay to win reward scheme and a hard pass for me. Did they stick with this reward system for future events? The event rewards come primarily from grinding out the quests in the special versions of the zones. Good amount of rubies, seeds, and ending in an epic/legendary book. There hasn't been a repair tool ranking thing since the first one. Though that was just a bonus anyways. They added guaranteed summons to the limited banners. The same 3k/6k random epic/legendary as the main banner and then 9k gets you the legendary. So you can save up (or whale out) and ensure you get the new unit if you really want. Or just pull on the regular banner and get a free legendary every 6k points. I ran into a similar problem with an event early on in Astral Chronicles too. Was basically impossible to grind it out in time without spending money on extra entries. That along with the difficulty often being the inability to accurately control units made me duck out of that.
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Aug 30, 2019 18:26
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:I too hate games that give me almost, if not all the content for free But the whole battle pass thing is lovely FOMO bait at it's worst. I can sort of understand it when it's an extra for subscribers and an incentive for signing up. But AFK has three of them running that I can think of off the top of my head (and each of them requires a seperate premium pass). There's one on the labyrinth rewards, there's one on the shields you get from your dailies and weeklies, and there's one for your progress through the main story. I've seen it cropping up on that Monster Hunter ripoff on the PS4 and it was all over the Quest for Epic Loot or whatever it was called. It blows as a monetisation strategy. There are far better and far fairer ways to monetise, the mobile market is an absolute cesspit for it at the moment.
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Aug 30, 2019 18:49
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Android Gaming: No, we're not going to make a separate thread for <game> or Android Gaming: Someone should make a separate thread
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Aug 30, 2019 18:58
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Has anyone hit world 5 in Archero and does it make slogging through world 4 worth it? Just finding 4 really boring and slow compared to 3 with its wave mechanic.
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Aug 30, 2019 19:40
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Elephant Parade posted:It's been in >80% of the mobage I've played. The point is that it isn't unique to Pokemon Masters It's not unique but it's not common either. I can think of one other gacha game recently that makes a distinction between free/paid premium currency. However, that is not to say that many gachas don't do something similar, it's just usually in the form of needing to pay real money to buy either some kind of summon ticket or special item to guarantee a hero or whatever. Probably that's better than the free/paid distinction to be honest because hitting up a banner with small print saying it doesn't take your fake premium currency is a quick way to build up some bad will. That said I never downloaded Pokémon Masters due to the poor beta reviews here and elsewhere and if there's just one basic premium banner and it only takes real money then lol.
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Aug 30, 2019 19:48
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tildes posted:Has anyone hit world 5 in Archero and does it make slogging through world 4 worth it? Just finding 4 really boring and slow compared to 3 with its wave mechanic. Archero becomes a massive pain in the rear end pretty quickly as the worlds get much much harder and the game doesn't give you enough currency to really upgrade your poo poo in any reasonable amount of time without paying.
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Aug 30, 2019 19:52
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I've seen it done with just having multiple levels of currency - there's one "premium currency" that's given away in-game (like candy at first, to get you hooked, and then trailing off to a very limited rate once the developer thinks they've got their claws into you), and a second "premium currency" that you can only buy with real money. Most things can be bought with either, but some things only take the real-money one. lmao forever at trying to pull that but still calling both premium currencies the same thing
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Aug 30, 2019 19:55
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Yeah no, don't conflate "This is a lovely monetisation strategy" with "I want free stuff." I've happily put more into Warframe than I have into a retail title, I usually buy the £5 starter pack in any mobile game I play for a week, and I am more than happy to give devs fair compensation for their work. Total opposite feeling here. I like battle passes because they give you new goals to play for, whereas warframe, starter packs, etc just give you things in exchange for money. I spend money in both, but I enjoy the former a lot more.
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Aug 30, 2019 19:56
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queserasera posted:I asked about a marble shooter and someone else wanted a good free game that wasn't an afk or clicker. Archero from a few dozen pages ago still grips me! Sneak Ops is a quickie version of a touch take on Metal Gear Ghost Babel Super Toss the Turtle is a good adaptation of a Newgrounds Nanaca Crash style game Tomb of the Mask is still a blast, even if I 💯'ed it a couple years ago, fast paced puzzle mazy action game. These are what comes to my mind for now.
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Aug 30, 2019 20:00
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Battle passes suck because they exploit FOMO to get you to keep playing a game long after it's not fun any more. (If you stop playing now, you'll permanently miss out on some of the battle pass rewards you already paid for!). Kinda like how daily quests are horrible, except even worse because you already chose to buy into it. If it was like, buy it now, but you can unlock all the stuff you bought even if you drop the game and pick it up a year later, that'd be much less exploitative.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Total opposite feeling here. I like battle passes because they give you new goals to play for, whereas warframe, starter packs, etc just give you things in exchange for money. I spend money in both, but I enjoy the former a lot more. Good (?) news about Warframe, you really should give auntie Nora a visit.
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Aug 30, 2019 20:27
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jjac posted:Good (?) news about Warframe, you really should give auntie Nora a visit. I admit free battle passes are better than paid ones.
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Aug 30, 2019 20:29
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Clocks posted:It's not unique but it's not common either. I can think of one other gacha game recently that makes a distinction between free/paid premium currency. - Magia Record - Final Fantasy Record Keeper (although the double-premium currency has a different name instead of just being Premium X) Those are the three that immediately come to mind for me, and one of them is, by far, the most popular and profitable mobage in the world
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Man, I hate Fate: GO. In the year and change since I uninstalled it, I haven't missed the actual gameplay of that game (which I spent hours doing every week) once, but FOMO on their stupid rare cards and events still makes my brain itch when I see it referenced. The Gacha I liked playing the least overall is probably still DBZ Dokkan Battle, though. That one was just too dang slow.
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Clocks posted:That said I never downloaded Pokémon Masters due to the poor beta reviews here and elsewhere and if there's just one basic premium banner and it only takes real money then lol. There's the basic banner that takes any of the currency, and then the special launch banner that only takes paid currency. 
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Aug 30, 2019 22:40
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tildes posted:Has anyone hit world 5 in Archero and does it make slogging through world 4 worth it? Just finding 4 really boring and slow compared to 3 with its wave mechanic. 5 is another one like 4, 6 is waves, 7 is a boss rush
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tildes posted:Has anyone hit world 5 in Archero and does it make slogging through world 4 worth it? Just finding 4 really boring and slow compared to 3 with its wave mechanic. I don't play a lot anymore (world 7 is a bitch, only 10 levels but it's all bosses), but the nice thing is that you can just log in every couple of days and collect a bunch of rewards. A lot of my gear is close to max level just doing that. Replaying other levels in hero mode can be fun, too. I enjoyed world 6 quite a bit, but it gets really ridiculous.
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Randallteal posted:Man, I hate Fate: GO. In the year and change since I uninstalled it, I haven't missed the actual gameplay of that game (which I spent hours doing every week) once, but FOMO on their stupid rare cards and events still makes my brain itch when I see it referenced. My feelings are exactly the same about those two games. Tried Pokemon Masters and bounced off it. So I've been alternating between Dragalia Lost and Epic Seven, the latter of which has a bunch of free daily 10-rolls as part of an anniversary special.
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I've tried, and I just can't get in to games with characters I don't know. So, I just stick to Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, Final Fantasy Record Keeper, Kingdom Hearts Union Cross, and Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia.
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Aug 31, 2019 16:10
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jjac posted:Good (?) news about Warframe, you really should give auntie Nora a visit. I ended up getting so frustrated with it I took a break for a while. I might go back if / when they stop making it rewards for doing orokin vaults or eidolons (or slotting ayatans, which is the worst) etc and go back to things like 'kill x enemies, loot x credits' stuff you would eventually get just from playing the game. I mean I may dislike the ridiculous difference in quality between the paid and free passes on Mighty Quest, and I may dislike the amount of different passes on AFK, but at least they don't end up taking over the game the way nightwave did.
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Aug 31, 2019 16:36
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Are there any good gachas that are portrait mode like afk arena? I tried that Elune game and it was landscape which I can't stand.
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Resdfru posted:Are there any good gachas that are portrait mode like afk arena? I tried that Elune game and it was landscape which I can't stand. Dragalia Lost is very ftp friendly, and will be having its anniversary within the month.
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Go RV! posted:Dragalia Lost is very ftp friendly, and will be having its anniversary within the month. It's also an incredibly good game and Cygames has made a ton of great QoL improvements within the first year. That and they actually made the gacha cheaper, and with better value (by removing wyrmprints). They also throw a ton of currency and free pulls at players. Highly recommend it for anyone looking for a good action RPG f2p game.
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Can you Auto in Draglia?
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Thanks for the Event Horizon Frontier suggestion! Any starting tips? Seems p beefy
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Crumbletron posted:Re: Raid, they've promised Faction Wars for a long time apparently and it's still not here. That said, we have a small goon guild going that we run out of the Galaxy of Heroes discord (you can find a link in the OP of that thread), if you want drop your SN in here and apply for Goon Funk Railroad, we have about a dozen active dudes and I can approve you. We sometimes clear the normal clan boss. None of us are that far past level ~40. Sweet, but I'm having trouble finding the Galaxy of Heroes thread. Maybe I suck at using the search function.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Warframe stuff Man sounds like I gave it up none too soon (shortly after the first open-world part).
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Nasgate posted:Sweet, but I'm having trouble finding the Galaxy of Heroes thread. Maybe I suck at using the search function. https://discord.gg/xHFxj6t There's a lot of channels, head down to the Raid one in the Other Games category
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I'll give dragalia another go, I've had it installed since it came out but I never got into it back then. One problem with a lot of these games I think is they throw so much at you so quickly. Afk arena does a really good job of slowly introducing all the different things. Dragalia was the first gacha I tried though, maybe post afk arena it will be better for me.
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