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# ? May 21, 2024 14:08 |
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1167493371973255170?s=21
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# ? Aug 30, 2019 18:54 |
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Is he bragging that we sabotaged an Iranian missile test?
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# ? Aug 30, 2019 19:04 |
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Is that a picture of a screen or another picture lol. What's up with the glare the middle?
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# ? Aug 30, 2019 19:29 |
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On second glance of actually clicking the image it looks like he took a phone picture from a briefing and blacked out some classification markings. I hope that’s from a drone or commercial imagery.
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# ? Aug 30, 2019 20:24 |
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Flying_Crab posted:On second glance of actually clicking the image it looks like he took a phone picture from a briefing and blacked out some classification markings. I hope that’s from a drone or commercial imagery. With that level of resolution? People are speculating that it’s 5cm. You and I both know President Brainworms just shared the best-quality look at KH11 imagery so far.
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# ? Aug 30, 2019 20:26 |
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Flying_Crab posted:On second glance of actually clicking the image it looks like he took a phone picture from a briefing and blacked out some classification markings. I hope that’s from a drone or commercial imagery.
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# ? Aug 30, 2019 20:27 |
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evil_bunnY posted:a commercial drone shooting this kind of quality would have long been dead and burning. There's an awful lot of people counting pixels right now. I mean it won’t take a rocket scientist to get an idea of the per pixel resolution of that shot. By commercial I meant satellite imagery of which you can get pretty high res from today.
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# ? Aug 30, 2019 20:31 |
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drgitlin posted:With that level of resolution? People are speculating that it’s 5cm. This whole thread breaks it down nicely: https://twitter.com/cgbassa/status/1167578706379988992?s=21
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# ? Sep 2, 2019 03:31 |
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drgitlin posted:With that level of resolution? People are speculating that it’s 5cm. No, it is definitely not 5cm. source: former imagery analyst
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# ? Sep 3, 2019 17:18 |
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Inspired by joat mon here are some pics of my granddad from when he was commissioned (1943) through the Korean War. Some of these have captions on the back (or the front lol) but some don’t. The captions are for my grandmother, pretty sure. He died in 2001 and I didn’t even know these existed until my grandma died twelve years later, so I can’t ask him about them. I scanned them all but some of them were really small and 70 years old, so not easy to make out. Hope you find them interesting. Strap in for a bunch of pictures! His first ship, a minesweeper. He’s the ensign with the poo poo-eating grin. Captain of the ship was a Lt (JG) Turnage. According to a roster on the back of the picture, he was in charge of “gunnery, communications, commissary.” Big ships, including the SAIPAN. Not sure where they ended up here. Somewhere on the way to Japan based on later pictures. Screwing around. lol New ship to take to Japan. PCE-886, an escort ship. According to this, she was skippered by LTJG Gordon Hopwood 46-47. Later, during the Korean War, he served on LSM-226. I don’t think he was very proud of his service on this ship. I believe 226 was first used to transport vehicles to the war, but then once in theater she served as a POW transport. Here he is in a 1950 crew photo. This one is captioned on the back: “Frogmen getting ready to launch recon party” “Frogmen recon outfit” “UDT swimming in” “Robert W. Jones, Chief Quarter Master, USN. – my staff chief. Terrific boy and smarter than hell” “Ulsan, Korea April 1952” “Me and a brood of Korean children at Ulsan in April 1952. They wanted to see us shoot (they also had lice!!)” “Ulsan, Korea, April 1952. This, I think, is a terrific shot of a Korea farm house and paddies” “Loading prisoners from Chara, AKA45 in April 1952” (I think this is a reference to the U.S.S. Chara, AKA-58) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Chara_(AKA-58)#1950%E2%80%931959 “Taking the POWs off the ship and putting them into boxcars for further shipment” “Ulsan, Korea 1952 – 1474 prisoners on one trip” “Bringin’ em aboard for their trip to the POW camp, North Korea July ‘52” “Disembarking Chinese Communist POWs at Cheju City, Cheju Do, Korea, July 1952. Note lad with both legs gone - on improvised home made pegs – also one with only one arm” “GI guard off Cheju City” “Typical of the new camps set up for operation “Spreadout” Yoncho Do Korea, July 1952” “POWs on Yoncho Do, Korea – Not too happy lot – ROK guard is one of many stationed all around perimeter of campground” “USS Catamount – LSD 17. We’re approaching their stern to offload that mass of POWs (Chinese)” “Married bow to stern of USS Catamount, LSD 17 at Cheju City Korea Juily 1952. This is typical of the corruption, crud, and plain poo poo the POWs leave behind them whenever aboard a ship. Those buckets are the infamous “honey buckets.” “ “In Pusan waiting for a load of cargo” “Not that we pack the Chinese POWs in very tight—it’s just that they don’t want to sit down” “Hwasuni Cheju Do marketplace” “Like many of the South Korean fishing villages passed while transporting POWs from Kaje to the new camps in operation “Spreadout” – Kokenka Wan” “Minesweeper (old YMS type) off Choguni (?)” “Picking up some Chinese Communist POWs – That’s N. Korea in the background. This isn’t the best position to be in – but what the hell – nothing happened at all – guess we were too small to worry about.” “That’s North Korea in the background. Smoke on the right is from planes (ours) bombing the enemy. In even this close the boy on the fantail has to peel his “spuds.” On the beach at Cho Do, North Korea” “New Zealand frigate in the background with a British “Sea Fury” on the LST alongside. This plane was forced down on island to the left and is now being returned to the Limeys at Inchon.” “British “Sea Fury” on an LST we’re alongside off Ponyang Do – north of 38th Parallel. That’s North Korea in the background behind the New Zealand Frigate “Raiweite” July 1952” “Rough stuff, this fueling at sea. Brownie got ambitious and slinked up the mast for this shot” Anyway, this is just from the beginning of his time in the Navy. He went on to several commands, including a minesweeper, a destroyer, a destroyer tender, a destroyer division and eventually a destroyer squadron. He retired as an O6 after 35 years. I hope I’ll find some more of this stuff when his sons pass away. Phil Moscowitz fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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That's an amazing post, Phil, thanks for sharing it. There's a lot to go through, I'm speechless. Thanks again.
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# ? Sep 3, 2019 21:52 |
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drepimetheus posted:That's an amazing post, Phil, thanks for sharing it. There's a lot to go through, I'm speechless. Thanks again. Like many people of his generation he didn't talk much about his service, even though it was obviously one of if not the most defining thing about his life and who he was as a person. He was always more interested in talking about what I was doing in my life. I never knew he even did this stuff until I found these pictures and asked my uncle about them. I really wish I could have had more time with him.
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# ? Sep 3, 2019 21:55 |
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im the triforce
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# ? Sep 3, 2019 22:06 |
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Phil Moscowitz posted:some pics of my granddad from when he was commissioned (1943) through the Korean War.
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# ? Sep 3, 2019 23:58 |
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Phil Moscowitz posted:here are some pics of my granddad Super cool, thanks for sharing
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 00:41 |
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Okay there is like a 99% chance I got this from this thread like a page ago, but holy moly this song & video owns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LM4epxxEm0
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 00:51 |
I was advised to visit this thread with some of the stuff on my great-grandfather; I don't really have photos but I do have memoirs I can copy + paste from spanning from his time at the Naval Academy in the first decade of the 1900s to his retirement after WW2. Would that be ok? I'm sure there must have been photographs but any that there were are unknown to me, sadly.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 01:20 |
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 01:36 |
While at the Academy:quote:Prior to World War One, St. Patrick’s Day was recognized by many more people than it is today, especially those of Irish origin. On March 16, 1910, one of the midshipmen who was a first class man of Irish origin asked me if I would be interested in hoisting a large green flag over Bancroft Hall. Though I had no special interest in St. Patrick’s Day, the idea appealed to me as a calculated risk, so we turned out after taps and climbed out on the roof of Bancroft Hall, bent a big green cloth on the halyards and, after hoisting the green flag, cut the halyards. Next morning, when the Regiment of Midshipmen turned out for breakfast formation, the green flag caused much mirth. The next year, when I was a first classman, some of my classmates proposed a repeat performance and asked me to join them. I declined, saying that the “jimmie legs” (Master at Arms) will remember last year and will catch anyone who tries it. My prediction was accurate, for the three midshipmen involved were reported for (1) “Turned out after taps,” (2) “Being in an unauthorized part of Bancroft Hall.” First tour post-graduation, on the USS Ohio: quote:The class of 1911 at the US Naval Academy was the last to graduate as Past Midshipmen, for Congress passed a law in 1912 giving midshipmen the rank of Ensign on graduation. On the Naval Air Force: quote:In January, 1912, the Atlantic Fleet was based at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and the few planes which the NAvy owned were based ashore. In those days the pilots would only fly between sunrise and seven AM. They said that “after seven AM, the air was too full of holes.” With PAst Midshipman O. M. Read, we would row the dinghy over to the Air Base every morning and hopefully wait for a “hop,” which was decided by rank and by weight. After many fruitless trips, I at last went up in one of the five or more seaplanes that comprised the Naval Air Force. Our pilot was Ensign Herbster, USNA 1908. We taxied about half the length of Guantanamo Bay before we could take off. The plane had a sixty horse power motor and was a Wright biplane of the pusher type. The engine was aft of the pilot. There were two propellers driven by chains and sprockets, like a bicycle. I sat on the lower wing, held on to the struts, and let my feet dangle in the breeze. My transcription of these memoirs kind of ground to a halt when I hit the part he starts talking about the naval uniform traditions but I can probably get some more transcribed over the coming week?
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 01:44 |
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Holy poo poo the wine thieves!
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 01:48 |
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Those are awesome, thank you for sharing.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 01:53 |
I missed one of the excerpts I'd marked for sharing:quote:When the Atlantic Fleet based at Newport, RI, in the summer, the battleships spent the week at sea and would come into port for the weekend. There were lots of parties and dances ashore and lots of pretty girls, and occasionally dinner parties on board ship. On these occasions, having a wine mess added much to the pleasure of a dinner party. The Junior Officers of the USS Ohio decided to give a dinner party to return some of their social obligations. On that evening they wore white mess jackets with shoulder marks, dress shirts, black ties and blue broadcloth trousers with a stripe of gold lace down each leg. Only flag officers had gasoline boats in those days, so when the quartermaster reported that the steamer with guests was returning to the ship, one of the ensigns ran down the accommodation ladder to help the chaperon, who was quite robust, out of the boat. There was a strong tide running and the coxswain was having a hard time bringing his boat alongside. As the Ensign held out his hand to the chaperon, the boat forged ahead. Thereupon, the Ensign said, “Give me your hand, Mrs. ----” and, turning to the coxswain, said “give her a kick astern,” meaning the boat of course, but the chaperon thought he was referring to her and if looks could have killed, the Ensign would have dropped dead.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 01:58 |
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Trebuchet King posted:I missed one of the excerpts I'd marked for sharing: Fuckin lol
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 02:00 |
Let me provide a bit of context just with regards to how much raw material I've got before I crash for the night: quote:Duty Stations I've got up to the USS Florida heading to Norfolk to prepare for overseas deployment in 1917 typed up; I'm near the end of of the 25th of 69 (nice) mimeographed pages. Well, photocopies of the mimeographs. Those are still in a binder at the Navy Department Library at the Navy Yard in Washington, DC. Most of the text is double-spaced; when he quotes things, like the very dry uniform history stuff or extracts from the USS Florida's Log (which is what's next in my transcriptions) he single-spaces. Dunno how long this is going to take, but once I've got a digital version typed up then comes proofreading and annotations/footnotes to provide modern names for places he mentions and that kind of thing.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 03:07 |
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Phil Moscowitz posted:New ship to take to Japan. PCE-886, an escort ship. Spent a few minutes googling this ship...spent most of her military career as USS Lamar, mothballed after WWII, brought back for Korea+a few years, mothballed again, sold for civilian use in 1972. In '73 as Growler she sank in a nasty Bering Sea storm with a crew of two hauling construction equipment.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 03:23 |
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Trebuchet King posted:Let me provide a bit of context just with regards to how much raw material I've got before I crash for the night: Your timeline is intriguing so I had to go looking things up. So his ship gets damaged at Pearl Harbor during the initial attack, and he doesn't get another ship command for the rest of the war? There has to be some details I'm missing.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 04:15 |
EBB posted:Your timeline is intriguing so I had to go looking things up. So his ship gets damaged at Pearl Harbor during the initial attack, and he doesn't get another ship command for the rest of the war? There has to be some details I'm missing. Well, he spent his whole career bouncing between land and sea postings. Here’s a transcription of his post-Pearl Harbor report and the reply from command. I’m on my way to work so I can’t check on any specifics as to how or why the next posting was decided, but commanding officer of the Alexandria Torpedo Factory is a pretty big deal, I think.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 11:55 |
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I just figure he might have been bummed out to not get a ship after his got hit in port.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 15:03 |
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I think any sailor would feel like that no matter how prestigious the post.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 15:10 |
Once I get home I can skip ahead to see if he says anything in that regard, but I know after as many years as I’ve been living on a boat I miss things like bathtubs.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 16:36 |
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Trebuchet King posted:Once I get home I can skip ahead to see if he says anything in that regard, but I know after as many years as I’ve been living on a boat I miss things like bathtubs. Yeah but...right when WWII breaks out, you want to finish up your career in various shore commands? e. I'm not trying to imply anything negative, the man spent 20 out of his 30+ years up to that point at sea and then could have been killed. Who knows the motivations. Phil Moscowitz fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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i was just crackin’ wise. i honestly have no idea, I’m not military, and my great-granddad died well before i was born so this is about the closest i’ve been able to get to having any idea what he was like.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 18:18 |
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I wish I had more information about my paternal grandfather's service. He was in the Chemical Corps in WW2 in the Pacific Theater, stationed at Guadalcanal (after it had been secured). He died while I was still a snot-nosed little kid, but I'd have loved to ask him about the alternative plan to gas Japan wholesale before the invasion/Operation Olympic. There's no way he *wouldn't* have known something about that.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:03 |
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 22:29 |
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Luxury jack shack. These photos are cool as poo poo.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 00:13 |
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Digging the bookshelf. Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is a decent book but it doesn't fly well these days- I recall the author proposing that the behavior of some of the nazis was being caused by homosexuality.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 00:35 |
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The go-to these days is Richard Evans Third Reich trilogy. Rise and Fall isn't terrible, it's just massively outdated and Shirer was a great journalist for his time but standard have lept forward massively.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 01:20 |
Alright, I flipped ahead to double check and great-granddad didn't share any of his thoughts/feelings about being posted with the Torpedo factory following Pearl Harbor, but from what he *did* write I can tell he was incredibly proud of what was accomplished at each posting. Here's something a touch more severe than the excerpts I last shared, from his time on the USS Simpson: quote:All American citizens were informed that a large movie theatre on the waterfront would be their place of refuge. On the 13th of September the fire started and the entire city of Smyrna was soon ablaze. We took all the refugees who claimed to be Americans on the U.S.S. Simpson - 168 men, women and children. I had never seen so much misery in my life before - hysterical, frantic, weeping women and children. When we left Smyrna that night the entire city was on fire and I could hear weeping all over the ship. Crossing the Aegean enroute to Athens, I took navigational bearings on the glow in the sky seventy miles off. We disembarked the refugees at Piraeus, the sea port of Athens, and waited until the next day when the U.S. freighter Winona came in with more refugees. We then returned to Smyrna - now called Izmir.
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Alright, Big Headline said y'all might be interested in the, but MAH WAIFE's grandfather was a Pathfinder Navigator (381st Bomb Group, 535th Squadron, Ridgewell and 91st Bomb Group, 324th Squadron PFF, Bassingbourn). He wrote a big ol' history and got a bunch of buddies to contribute, and even made a CD of the memoirs that I've uploaded here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RPw8UCBj1X3qBYbGNShPYHdEn3u3kRd-
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# ? Sep 8, 2019 20:20 |