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The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

That's what the clock icon section in the ribbon is supposed to be, though I can't say I use it myself.

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

The Dave posted:

That's what the clock icon section in the ribbon is supposed to be, though I can't say I use it myself.

Well poo poo... thanks! That’s handy.

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




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Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




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colachute
Mar 15, 2015

Same

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Sockser posted:

Mii
Much Joan
WIs n jejujm mum

There's a Newton version now??

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Sockser posted:

Mii
Much Joan
WIs n jejujm mum

No, YOUR mom. :mad:

101
Oct 15, 2012


Vault Dweller
Would it be possible to add a share option (obviously opening the iOS share sheet) when you long press a YouTube video's title or are the three options that come up when you long press one just default behaviour you guys have no control over?

StabMasterArson
May 31, 2011

My app just updated to this new theme. Is the any way to get the old one back?

Nuurd
Apr 21, 2005

StabMasterArson posted:

My app just updated to this new theme. Is the any way to get the old one back?

I believe it’s in the settings under “classic light/dark”

StabMasterArson
May 31, 2011

Nuurd posted:

I believe it’s in the settings under “classic light/dark”

Thanks!

Harriet Carker
Jun 2, 2009

Thank you so much for Find Your Posts! This app continues to be amazing. I really appreciate the hard work of everyone that contributes to it.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

dantheman650 posted:

Thank you so much for Find Your Posts! This app continues to be amazing. I really appreciate the hard work of everyone that contributes to it.

Where's Find Your Posts?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

stuffed crust punk posted:

Where's Find Your Posts?

Share menu when you’re reading a thread. It’s not really sharing, like 2/3 of the other entries also aren’t, but I wasn’t up to relitigating that icon when I added it.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
I feel like I’ve been having real trouble pressing on links. Like, I can hard press them to bring up the preview which then loads into Safari, but it won’t load the browser with me just tapping it.

Grace Baiting
Jul 20, 2012

Audi famam illius;
Cucurrit quaeque
Tetigit destruens.



pokeyman posted:

[scrollthumbs issue]
Can’t say I’ve seen this one (or maybe I just haven’t noticed) but I’ll put it on the list and keep an eye out!

Grace Baiting posted:

Sounds good, thanks! I think I've usually seen it with what feel like relatively heavyweight webpage links, so things like Twitter and YouTube. I'll try to note down which webpage next triggers it for me as well.
Vague update on what I've seen with this: it seems to mainly, possibly only, occur when there's a Twitter embed (or YouTube embed?) on my currently open thread. Threads without such embeds seem to retain their scrollthumbs when the app loads back into memory and rerenders that thread.


dantheman650 posted:

Thank you so much for Find Your Posts! This app continues to be amazing. I really appreciate the hard work of everyone that contributes to it.
:agreed:, and :same:


Subjunctive posted:

Share menu when you’re reading a thread. It’s not really sharing, like 2/3 of the other entries also aren’t, but I wasn’t up to relitigating that icon when I added it.
burger   :getin:

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨


The burger and I go way back, and I think I agree, but not enough to put on my “advocate for miscellaneous UI catch-all” uniform.

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

i will only approve a hamburger icon if spanky makes it a literal hamburger

carry on then fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Sep 1, 2019

Grace Baiting
Jul 20, 2012

Audi famam illius;
Cucurrit quaeque
Tetigit destruens.



carry on then posted:

i will only approve a hamburger icon if spanky makes it a literal hamburger

it's either "🍔" or ":burger:" depending on your current theme

spanky the dolphin
Sep 3, 2006

A more or less traditional burg icon? Nothing wrong with that.


It could also be these dots which represent the buttons inside of the menu. They're sort of symmetrical compared to the settings icon on the left which is nice but maybe it's too visually dense.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

The bottom left menu being part of the in-thread view as whole is something that could be discussed more. In theory, all of those settings are global triggers that the user sets once and never touches again. It's triggering a whole new way to think of that bottom area which is probably bad and will annoy people but I think I'll mock it up...


I'll also go back to beating this drum of I would love switching to these list style action menus for user/thread actions. Just makes a lot more sense now that I'm a lot smarter.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

I can't imagine a good response from this because I'm tapping into my deepest twitter designer urges:

If you take out global settings from the bottom bar, you basically just have the page navigator and the menu button. If you turn those into FABs, you free up a whole side of the bottom of the screen, and makes the UI feel a little less heavy. You could then throw a setting toggle to put the FAB on the left or right side of the screen for preference.

(I did gently caress up the sizing/placement of the iOS swipe bar, oh well)

colachute
Mar 15, 2015

Testing a bug I might have found here. Ignore me.

Ok so here is the bug.



I can’t get the “From Camera” etc. menu to go away. It goes away on its own at some random (?) time if I don’t pick something. I noticed this when trying to post a YouTube video but picked the image option on accident. I couldn’t find my way back in the menu and had to pick one of the options to get it to go away.

colachute fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Sep 1, 2019

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

The Dave posted:

I can't imagine a good response from this because I'm tapping into my deepest twitter designer urges:

If you take out global settings from the bottom bar, you basically just have the page navigator and the menu button. If you turn those into FABs, you free up a whole side of the bottom of the screen, and makes the UI feel a little less heavy. You could then throw a setting toggle to put the FAB on the left or right side of the screen for preference.

(I did gently caress up the sizing/placement of the iOS swipe bar, oh well)



I really have to dissent here, this seems like an enormous amount of rickety custom UI code that will break every 10 minutes and twice on new iOS releases. Let's stick with what's provided and easy to implement.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

spanky the dolphin posted:

It could also be these dots which represent the buttons inside of the menu. They're sort of symmetrical compared to the settings icon on the left which is nice but maybe it's too visually dense.

If we do the dots I would want to really lean into the mystery-meat element and have some of them not-quite-randomly fill in at different times.

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

i still think it should be a line art hamburger. cheese and onions on mine please!

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

carry on then posted:

I really have to dissent here, this seems like an enormous amount of rickety custom UI code that will break every 10 minutes and twice on new iOS releases. Let's stick with what's provided and easy to implement.

Yeah I understand that point of view but really this was first just a UX conversation/thought. I’m not sure if it’s bad or good on it’s usability first and foremost (to me). It’s also an extremely common pattern in modern UI design so that’s just sad if there’s no commonly except implementation of it.

The Dave fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Sep 1, 2019

spanky the dolphin
Sep 3, 2006

The Dave posted:

The bottom left menu being part of the in-thread view as whole is something that could be discussed more. In theory, all of those settings are global triggers that the user sets once and never touches again. It's triggering a whole new way to think of that bottom area which is probably bad and will annoy people but I think I'll mock it up...


I'll also go back to beating this drum of I would love switching to these list style action menus for user/thread actions. Just makes a lot more sense now that I'm a lot smarter.



The bottom left settings are handy to have access to directly in the thread I think. I don't use it much either but being able to make quick alterations to how you view the content without wading through the main settings menu seems worth it if only to avoid that pain point.

The list view is a huge improvement in every way.


The only part of this I like is being able to see through to the page content below, really.

Would something like that be possible with our current layout? Thinking this:


(combination of 50% opacity black (or whatever BG colour is) plus a dimming gradient from the bottom. You could do the same thing to the top menu too but it might get messy with the secondary menu etc.

spanky the dolphin
Sep 3, 2006

carry on then posted:

i still think it should be a line art hamburger. cheese and onions on mine please!



One steamed ham coming right up!

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



:five:

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

spanky the dolphin posted:



One steamed ham coming right up!

Imo go with this or just a straight up 🍔. 🍔 wouldn't even require an art asset

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

spanky the dolphin posted:

The bottom left settings are handy to have access to directly in the thread I think. I don't use it much either but being able to make quick alterations to how you view the content without wading through the main site...

I guess I don’t buy people change it after they set it once, and therefore it can all be kicked over to the settings page.

The literally hamburger is actually perfect in every way and needs to happen.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
the bottom left menu is handy because I can switch from dark/light theme depending on my surroundings without losing my place in the thread

spanky the dolphin
Sep 3, 2006

pokeyman posted:

Also if you ever get tired of waiting for me to get around to updating stuff like this, I can show you where to do it in the repo.

Show me how!

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

The Dave posted:

I guess I don’t buy people change it after they set it once, and therefore it can all be kicked over to the settings page.

The literally hamburger is actually perfect in every way and needs to happen.

Yeah but setting it and then going back to the post view to see how it looks is an annoying loop.

Settings ▶️ Post Display that opens a view with that menu stuff at the top and a few simulated posts below it?

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.

101 posted:

Would it be possible to add a share option (obviously opening the iOS share sheet) when you long press a YouTube video's title or are the three options that come up when you long press one just default behaviour you guys have no control over?

Yep! It'll be in the next beta.

The_Doctor posted:

I feel like I’ve been having real trouble pressing on links. Like, I can hard press them to bring up the preview which then loads into Safari, but it won’t load the browser with me just tapping it.

This has been a thing for a little while now and I have no idea what causes it. Sometimes I get hit with it for days at a time, sometimes I go months without seeing it. All I can say for now is sorry, and I hope to figure it out someday :(

Grace Baiting posted:

Vague update on what I've seen with this: it seems to mainly, possibly only, occur when there's a Twitter embed (or YouTube embed?) on my currently open thread. Threads without such embeds seem to retain their scrollthumbs when the app loads back into memory and rerenders that thread.

Hmm that's a good clue I think, I'll make a note. Thanks for keeping on it!

The Dave posted:

In theory, all of those settings are global triggers that the user sets once and never touches again.

I bet they're used by a surprising number of users, even if they're not used all that often by each. For example, I'll go months without touching them, but once in a while I'm getting a bit bleary-eyed but there's just one more page dammit, and having quick access to the embiggen font button is fantastic.

quote:

I'll also go back to beating this drum of I would love switching to these list style action menus for user/thread actions. Just makes a lot more sense now that I'm a lot smarter.



Surprisingly, despite being used in multiple first-party apps, this UI is not currently provided by iOS. Something similar has appeared in iOS 13, context menus, but it's not quite the same. I'm not averse to making that UI though as I really like the idea, and the current setup is kinda ick. Basically

spanky the dolphin posted:

The list view is a huge improvement in every way.

The Dave posted:

I can't imagine a good response from this because I'm tapping into my deepest twitter designer urges:

If you take out global settings from the bottom bar, you basically just have the page navigator and the menu button. If you turn those into FABs, you free up a whole side of the bottom of the screen, and makes the UI feel a little less heavy. You could then throw a setting toggle to put the FAB on the left or right side of the screen for preference.

(I did gently caress up the sizing/placement of the iOS swipe bar, oh well)



FABs are my #1 "this iOS app feels like an Android app, in a bad way", but I do like the general idea of lightening the UI load on the bottom. I think it'd get us to 90% of the benefit of "make the bars go away when I scroll" without being near as painful to implement.

Not super related, but the other day I was thinking it'd be nice to have a more fluid page picker. Like I want to be able to touch down on the page number, have the picker pop open after a half second, and without lifting my finger start spinning the picker, then still without lifting my finger somehow (swipe left/right?) lock in my selection.

colachute posted:

Testing a bug I might have found here. Ignore me.

Ok so here is the bug.



I can’t get the “From Camera” etc. menu to go away. It goes away on its own at some random (?) time if I don’t pick something. I noticed this when trying to post a YouTube video but picked the image option on accident. I couldn’t find my way back in the menu and had to pick one of the options to get it to go away.

I think this (or something that sounds very similar) has come up once or twice in the past. I can say that that menu feels like a big pile of hacks at the best of times, and the way Awful uses it is definitely a pile of hacks, so really I'm surprised it doesn't bug out more often. That's no excuse, of course, and I'd love to get it working perfectly! I'll add it to my list. Do the steps you mention above work consistently, or does it happen only sometimes?

spanky the dolphin posted:

The only part of this I like is being able to see through to the page content below, really.

Would something like that be possible with our current layout? Thinking this:


(combination of 50% opacity black (or whatever BG colour is) plus a dimming gradient from the bottom. You could do the same thing to the top menu too but it might get messy with the secondary menu etc.

Possible but too busy for me. We could blur the toolbar background a bit less than we do now so the content shows through a bit more, but honestly I'm not sure there's a point where it's not too busy but still feels unobtrusive, they're kinda exactly opposing goals.

spanky the dolphin posted:



One steamed ham coming right up!

gently caress yes. And I'm calling it `steamed-ham` in code.

Subjunctive posted:

Yeah but setting it and then going back to the post view to see how it looks is an annoying loop.

Settings ▶️ Post Display that opens a view with that menu stuff at the top and a few simulated posts below it?

That could work. In fact, I thought we already did that somewhere in Settings, but now I can't find it. Maybe I ripped it out.

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Apologies if this is too handhold-y! Please let me know if you get stuck anywhere (here in the thread is totally fine and others can help you if I don't see the post quick. PMs are totally fine too), I have infinite patience. And if it's too much of a pain, that's ok too, I appreciate the attempt. A lot of this crap is one-time set up, it gets easier once it's done.

I forget if you have a GitHub account already. If you don't, or if you don't want to associate it with Awful, step one is to head to https://github.com and sign up for a new account.

From here there's a couple of ways, depending on whether you have access to Xcode (i.e. have a Mac, or can otherwise run macOS).

If you can run Xcode, install it via the Mac App Store. Once installed, launch it and go to Xcode menu > Preferences > Accounts tab and add your GitHub account. Once you've done that, head to https://github.com/Awful/Awful.app, click the green "Clone or download" button on the right, then click "Open in Xcode". Congrats, you can theoretically now run Awful in the simulator and/or on any connected iOS devices you might have! Image resources are strewn all over the place, but most of the interesting ones are probably in Awful > App > Resources > Images.xcassets, especially in the Post Icon Picker and Template Images folders. Just drag any new ones into place, or drag new ones into the list and make new assets for 'em. Now you can skip the next paragraph and jump to the subsequent one.

If you cannot run Xcode, head to https://github.com/Awful/Awful.app and clone the repo (there are many ways to do this, here's GitHub's article on it as a starting point; also sorry in advance for git, it's a tool with an abominable interface). The best you can do is overwrite the image files already in place. Image resources are strewn all over the place, but most of the interesting ones are probably in App > Resources > Images.xcassets, especially in the Post Icon Picker and Template Images folders. Simply name each new file the same as an existing file and overwrite the old ones.

Either way, once you're all set, you'll want to commit your changes. However you cloned the repo (Xcode, command line, or some other tool) is how you'll commit your changes. Add each file you changed (in Xcode, it's the Source Control menu > Commit (and if you used Xcode, there might be some nearby metadata changes too)), type in a message (e.g. "Updated post view action icon"), and mash "commit". Once you wanna share your changes, you'll need to push them up to GitHub, so look for a command or button labeled "Push".

Once you've made it through all this the first time, making future changes should be easier as you can start at the "Image resources are strewn all over the place" bit. If other people have made changes in the meantime, you may need to mash a command or button labeled "Pull" to get the latest, then you can carry on.

Ugh, that's a lot. Again, holler if I can help. Also it's impossible for you to break something in a way we can't fix, so by all means try mashing buttons to see what they do :D

Oh, another location of possible interest is App > Resources > App Icons.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

The Dave posted:

I guess I don’t buy people change it after they set it once, and therefore it can all be kicked over to the settings page.

The literally hamburger is actually perfect in every way and needs to happen.

I have it set to different values for different sub forums, which the current implementation allows for and your idea makes more convoluted.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Would love to hear more about your use case to understand it. Could you get into maybe a specific exams of how it varies between 3 forums and you change the settings frequently?

Swapping light/dark makes sense, though I’m still not mentally extinguishing way to merge into one button without adding steps to common tasks.

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Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

The Dave posted:

Would love to hear more about your use case to understand it. Could you get into maybe a specific exams of how it varies between 3 forums and you change the settings frequently?

Swapping light/dark makes sense, though I’m still not mentally extinguishing way to merge into one button without adding steps to common tasks.

I don’t want images in some forums, I don’t want avatars in others, and the ability to quick-turn-off both for work posting is also good

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