UKMT September 2019 - A Fish-Abandoning Government

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thespaceinvader: Mar 30, 2011; The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

radmonger posted:

Less than if you had been using real swords, but more than if you had been using wooden ones.

Perfect.

E: JFC that's a horrible snipe:

10 is roughly the number out of ten for how hosed we all are right now.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:13

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Failed Imagineer posted:

https://twitter.com/SunApology/status/1168426514687385601?s=19

I mean if you're gonna work for the sun you have to assume it's because they have the big CP stash.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:15

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

https://twitter.com/SunApology/status/1168426514687385601?s=19

Actually he'd be an ephebophile. I just thought we ought to clear that up early on. :stonkhat:

(If you see Rod Liddle, call the police.)

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:21

Sanitary Naptime: May 29, 2006; MIWK!

Failed Imagineer posted:

https://twitter.com/SunApology/status/1168426514687385601?s=19

Comment or Commentariat is only going to get darker, jfc

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:22

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

I know bits of this thing have been posted before, but you gotta read the whole intro piece of the Corbyn Economy five-article thing the FT is doing. It's all bangers :fap:

I could literally bold the whole thing but will try not to.

quote:

Jeremy Corbyn�s plan to rewrite the rules of the UK economy
The Labour leader�s proposals represent a fundamental redistribution of income and power in the UK

�They looked like they were meeting the Gremlins�, is how one of Labour�s Treasury team remembers a meeting with senior UK civil servants ahead of the 2017 election. Jeremy Corbyn�s party was yet to surge in the polls and expected to take a thorough beating. For the officials, required to meet the opposition ahead of an election, this was a matter of going through the motions.

Two years on with UK politics scrambled by�Brexit, the landscape is unrecognisable. A Corbyn government is no longer a remote prospect.

Yet John McDonnell, Labour�s shadow chancellor and the man driving its economic strategy, has not forgotten the experience. It confirmed what he always assumed, that�much of the civil service, like the rest of the British establishment, is instinctively inimical to the party�s agenda. Treasury officials, he says, will be forced to learn �a wider range of economic theories�. If Mr Corbyn does indeed lead his party to power, they are not the only ones in for a lesson.

A Corbyn government promises a genuine revolution in the British economy. Labour�s leadership intends to pursue not only a fundamental change in ownership and tax but a systemic effort to embed reform in a way that future parties will struggle to unpick.

�We have to do what Thatcher did in reverse,� says�Jon Lansman, founder of the Corbyn support group Momentum. �We have to take decisive steps to both achieve a significant redistribution and create a constituency of an awful lot of people with an obvious stake in a continuing Labour government.�

At the heart of everything is one word:�redistribution. Redistribution of income, assets, ownership and power. The mission is to shift power from capital to labour, wresting control from shareholders, landlords and other vested interests and putting it in the hands of workers, consumers and tenants. �We have to rewrite the rules of our economy,� says Mr McDonnell. �Change is coming.�

David Willetts, a former Conservative cabinet minister who now chairs the Resolution Foundation think-tank, says�Brexit has made it harder to paint Labour�s plans as risky. �Brexit is so radical and such a massive gamble, breaking a 40-year trading arrangement, that it�s hard for Tories to say to people �don�t gamble on Labour�,� says Lord Willetts. �They just think: �who�s the gambler?��

Over the next week, the FT will be examining the impact of a prospective Corbyn government on the UK economy, exploring the intellectual underpinnings of Corbynism and examining the feasibility and price tag of the planned reforms.

Understandably, those who are doing well out of the existing arrangements are nervous. Matthew Fell, the CBI�s chief UK policy director, says: �The question on the lips of any international investor looking at the UK, is �what would a Labour government mean for the economy?� From company ownership to taxation, they want to know that their investments will be safe.�

Mr McDonnell, the architect of the economic agenda, has been careful to avoid causing�too many controversies. But even the plans already announced are breathtaking in scope: the nationalisation of rail, water, mail and electricity distribution companies; significantly higher taxes on the rich; the enforced transfer of 10 per cent of shares in every big company to workers; sweeping reform of tenant rights; and huge borrowing to fund public investment.�

But this may be just the start. The leadership is also studying an array of even more radical ideas, including a four-day week, pay caps on executives, an end to City bonuses, a�universal basic income, a �right to buy� for private tenants and a shake-up in the way that land is taxed to penalise wealthy landlords.�

To supporters this is about fairness; about reorienting an economy that works for those at the top but not for the young, the unemployed or those struggling on zero-hours contracts.�

To his opponents and those likely to be at the sharp end of such a programme � high-earners, business owners, investors and landlords, it is alarming. �Whenever we hold events I always ask, �what are you more worried about, a Corbyn government or a no-deal Brexit?�� says one business lobbyist. �Now the universal answer is Corbyn.� Terry Scuoler, former head of Make UK, the manufacturers� organisation, has described the prospect of a Labour government as �nightmarish�.

It is not hard to understand their fears. Influential figures within the leadership now include former members drawn from various Trotskyite factions. The trade union Unite has a dominant role in the Labour leader�s inner circle. Mr Corbyn�s past opposition to Nato and the Trident nuclear deterrent and his onetime support for the Venezuelan regime continue to cause concern.

Already, the shadow chancellor has set out plans for �49bn of new taxes and extra spending a year, borrow �250bn to fund a National Investment Bank, nationalise a swath of utilities, rip up labour laws to help workers, build 1m social homes and sharply increase the minimum wage.

A central ambition for both the Labour leadership and its union backers is tilting the balance of power away from employers and back towards the workforce.�

Where former prime minister Tony Blair accepted the Thatcherite consensus on union reform, the next Labour government would make it easier for unions to go on strike and extend full employee rights to all workers in the gig economy � such as sick pay, parental leave and protection against unfair dismissal. There are plans for workers on boards, and even staff votes for leaders of some companies. There would be a 20:1 executive pay cap for companies with government contracts.�

Mr Corbyn has dropped plans for a �people�s QE� � printing money to pay for infrastructure � at least for now. But he would move the Bank of England from London to Birmingham and parts of the Treasury to Manchester.�

There would be a host of tax rises, including higher income tax for those earning over �80,000, a new �excessive pay levy�, a �5bn-a-year financial transactions tax and a jump in corporation tax from 19p to 26p in the pound.

A recent report commissioned by the leadership,�Land For The Many, suggested that the current exemption from capital gains tax enjoyed by millions of homeowners could be scrapped.

Mr Corbyn�s Labour is�a far cry from Mr Blair�s �New Labour� of 1997, which sought to convince voters of its moderation. �Back then people wanted to be reassured about things not changing too much,� says one close ally. �This time people do want change.�

The financial crisis created the opportunity the Corbynites were waiting for. Its aftermath reinforced the sense of a rigged system, establishing a direct link between the excesses of the financial services industry and the economic travails of ordinary citizens. The Labour leadership further believes the decade of low interest rates since the financial crisis has been to the benefit of speculators rather than ordinary workers.

Many executives have been pleasantly surprised by a series of meetings held with the besuited Mr McDonnell, who pledges to listen to their concerns. Labour has also benefited from the Brexit chaos, which has caused many businesspeople to re-evaluate the Conservative party�s reputation as the party of economic stability.�

Yet some political analysts argue that the deceptively gentle demeanour of a longstanding Marxist should not be misinterpreted. �Change doesn�t come from people having tea at the Ritz. It comes from people storming the Ritz,� he said a few years ago.

For Labour, Brexit is also an opportunity. In his speech to the 2018 Labour conference: Mr McDonnell noted: �The greater the mess we inherit, the more radical we have to be.��

It was at that same conference that Labour unveiled its most daring initiative to date: a plan to seize 10 per cent of the shares in every large company in the country � whether public, private or foreign-owned � and hand them to employees. In reality the workers would not entirely own the shares but would simply be eligible for up to �500 a year each in dividends, while the remainder would be taken by the exchequer.

Calculations by the FT and Clifford Chance can today reveal that the policy, called the �Inclusive Ownership Fund�, amounts to a �300bn raid on shareholders, albeit gradually over 10 years. �It�s the biggest stealth tax in history,� says one former member of Corbyn�s office.

Mr Corbyn and Mr McDonnell are also studying an array of other initiatives including: the break-up of the Big Four auditors; a ban on all share options and golden handshakes; curbs on the voting rights of short-term shareholders; and the public naming of all workers on over �150,000 a year. Companies that fail to meet environmental criteria could be delisted from the London Stock Exchange.

Mr McDonnell has dabbled with the idea of a universal basic income but so far has promised only a pilot scheme. He is more excited about the idea of a four-day working week, and has asked Robert Skidelsky, the economist and Keynes biographer, to produce a report: �Until the first world war people thought it entirely normal to have a one-day weekend, but when it changed to two days the sky didn�t cave in,� says one ally.

Labour would also take an unconventional approach to trade. John Hilary, who is acting international liaison for Labour, has called trade deals a �new form of imperialism� and a type of �plunder�. At one event he said that �we reject the whole principle of free trade�.

By conventional yardsticks, the Labour leader�s political views would keep him from Number 10. His personal ratings are among the lowest ever seen for an opposition leader, while the public remains sceptical about Labour�s economic credibility.

Polling data show�that voters currently evince little enthusiasm for a Corbyn government. And yet the existential shock of Brexit, combined with his appeal to younger voters and families fatigued by nearly a decade of�austerity, could still deliver the unexpected.�

For all the current woes Labour is still the party most likely to benefit from a decline in support for the Tories. But there are questions about how much of the Corbyn-McDonnell policy platform can be carried out in a single term, especially if Labour failed to win a majority.�

�There must be a reasonably high prospect that they are a minority government,� says Bob Kerslake, former head of the civil service, who is helping Labour to prepare for government. �They will have to think about the implications of that for the delivery of their manifesto.�

While some in the business community have welcomed Labour�s plans for greater investment in infrastructure projects and for a more muscular industrial strategy, executives in a multitude of industries are now growing uneasy as they pay closer attention to the potential impact of a Labour government in terms of regulation, tax and red tape.

�I would be worried about Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Seumas Milne, they don�t give a gently caress about the City of London,� says one senior Labour figure. �I think a lot of money would be shifted out on day one. There are a lot of people who are worried about the future financial security of the City.�

In recent weeks it has�become clear to investors in water companies,�the National Grid, projects funded by the private finance initiative, and the Royal Mail that a Labour government would not pay them the market price of their shares when nationalisation takes place.

John Allan, president of the CBI, urged Labour in May to drop its �ideological positioning�, warning that the nationalisation plans are being watched by investors around the world. �People are now asking: is my money, my savings, my income at risk?� he asked. Mr McDonnell�accused the CBI of ignoring the public clamour for change and �continuing to put shareholders first�.

Rumours have been swirling for months about other potential candidates for nationalisation � for example, airports or BT � which have been denied by the party. Mr Corbyn, meanwhile, openly advocates the nationalisation of parts of the struggling steel industry. Senior Labour officials believe there is a huge public appetite for state ownership of industries: one points to a recent survey by the�Legatum Institute suggesting that one in four people want nationalised travel agents.

�Of course they can add to their manifesto commitments . . . but I�m not aware of some huge hidden list,� says Lord Kerslake.

Mr McDonnell has tried to play down the idea that Labour would have to impose capital controls if it came to power. The issue emerged in late 2017 when the shadow chancellor said he had hired an academic to plan for various post-election crisis scenarios including a run on the pound. �I want to make it explicit that we will not introduce capital controls,� he�told the FT in January.

But a 2012 pamphlet with contributions from current senior Labour figures ��Building an Economy For the People� � set out�plans for capital controls. With contributions from Andrew Murray and Seumas Milne, two of Mr Corbyn�s most senior advisers, the booklet offers a range of measures to �control the flow of capital�.

�It�s a radical manifesto and it will take some delivering in one term, I think, but they will want to make significant progress on it in a first term,� says Lord Kerslake.

For the hard left, this feels like a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. There is no appetite for timidity. �The last time that an established leading economy tried to go for a proper socialist government was [Fran�ois] Mitterrand in the 1980s,� says one of Mr Corbyn�s advisers. �He said in economics there are two solutions: �Either you are a Leninist. Or you won�t change anything�. We want something in between, you could � to coin a phrase � call it a Third Way.�

For all the lovely keywords 'Trotskyist', 'Marxist' etc. etc. this isn't a bad writeup of his program, and the FT - for all its built-in ideology - does a fair job of talking about it.

If there's interest I'll post the other ones as they come out?

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:25

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

Junior G-man posted:

If there's interest I'll post the other ones as they come out?

Absolutely, it's good to know how the moneied classes think while their heads are still attached.

But also the FT are relatively good at focusing on Labour's actual policies as opposed to masturbating furiously about Thatcher. That said lmao at the senior Labour figure namedropping Seamus Milne like he's loving Voldemort.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:31

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Digging in their changes is absolutely vital for a labour government and transfer of ownership is something I've really hoped would be a way of doing that. I'm glad they're taking it seriously.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:31

Puntification: Nov 4, 2009; Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic; Fun Shoe

Red Oktober posted:

Don�t be silly. The word purge is only used when applied to Labour.

Authoritarianism is only bad when it's done by the Left.

Sanitary Naptime posted:

I reserve more hatred towards Tim Martin than any other non politician brexiteer.

He’s a oval office on such a massive level and treats his staff like complete poo poo.

He's a walking Dickensian caricature of a lovely exploitative employer. There's nothing about him that isn't gross. Speaking of:

Failed Imagineer posted:

https://twitter.com/SunApology/status/1168426514687385601?s=19

loving hell, Rod Liddle needs to answer some serious questions about his friendship with Prince Andrew.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:35

AceOfFlames: Oct 9, 2012

I realize I am alone on this but I don't think I could handle four day work weeks. There would be a lot more pressure to be productive in the shorter time and I am already bored enough on weekends.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:36

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

AceOfFlames posted:

I realize I am alone on this

I suspect you are

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:37

Mega Comrade: Apr 22, 2004; Listen buddy, we all got problems!

AceOfFlames posted:

I realize I am alone on this but I don't think I could handle four day work weeks. There would be a lot more pressure to be productive in the shorter time and I am already bored enough on weekends.

Sounds like you need a hobby

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:38

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

AceOfFlames posted:

Slurp slurp boots

Buddy some of us want more free time for our hobbies and interests not helping a millionaire's magic number tick up.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:39

notaspy: Mar 22, 2009

Junior G-man posted:

I know bits of this thing have been posted before, but you gotta read the whole intro piece of the Corbyn Economy five-article thing the FT is doing. It's all bangers

I could literally bold the whole thing but will try not to.

For all the lovely keywords 'Trotskyist', 'Marxist' etc. etc. this isn't a bad writeup of his program, and the FT - for all its built-in ideology - does a fair job of talking about it.

If there's interest I'll post the other ones as they come out?

I loving loved every bit of that article, while reading it I was saying to myself "yep, yep, sounds good, fine with that", I am sure that was the opposite of what it was designed to do but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

It was great to have everything all in once place and put so succinctly as I've read the manifesto along with economics for the many but I had struggled to put it all together as a coherent whole.

This is is the problem I have with the modern left, lots of good options, I've read the likes of The Entrepreneurial State and The People's Republic of Walmart, but no one at a political level is really saying "this one".

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:40

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Failed Imagineer posted:

https://twitter.com/SunApology/status/1168426514687385601?s=19

I remember him saying that Billie Eilish was the thinking man's pop starlet before I knew who she was. Then I found out she was 17 and heard the lyric "might seduce your dad type" and it all fell into place in my head.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:40

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

One of the few things I like about my job is that despite the poo poo pay I get a lot of flexibility on when I work.

Which is nice, eg, when I can choose to bunk off whenever the weather behaves to go to the beach or the moors.

Not working is great and I encourage everyone to do it whenever possible.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:41

Gort: Aug 18, 2003; Good day what ho cup of tea

You can do a seven day week and I'll do a one day week

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:41

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

OwlFancier posted:

One of the few things I like about my job is that despite the poo poo pay I get a lot of flexibility on when I work.

Yeah, same here. At least my boss is super cool about me working from home, or from my fiance's place, or me bunking off early on Fridays and stuff. It makes such a huge difference and, in the long run, does actually make me more productive.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:43

Pilchenstein: May 17, 2012; So your plan is for half of us to die?; Hot Rope Guy

AceOfFlames posted:

I realize I am alone on this but I don't think I could handle four day work weeks. There would be a lot more pressure to be productive in the shorter time and I am already bored enough on weekends.

uwu pwease expwoit me mistew capitawist :3:

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:45

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Gonzo McFee posted:

I remember him saying that Billie Eilish was the thinking man's pop starlet before I knew who she was. Then I found out she was 17 and heard the lyric "might seduce your dad type" and it all fell into place in my head.

Weird tho cause she's maybe the least sexualised popstar out there rn. I have to say that's just as much about a failed attempt at cultural relevance on Rods part

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:45

StarkingBarfish: Jun 25, 2006; Novus Ordo Seclorum

Junior G-man posted:

I know bits of this thing have been posted before, but you gotta read the whole intro piece of the Corbyn Economy five-article thing the FT is doing. It's all bangers

I could literally bold the whole thing but will try not to.

For all the lovely keywords 'Trotskyist', 'Marxist' etc. etc. this isn't a bad writeup of his program, and the FT - for all its built-in ideology - does a fair job of talking about it.

If there's interest I'll post the other ones as they come out?

The FT is surprisingly good at this, because they have to be objective if they want to appeal to financial analysts. There's no use in them spinning a tale because it is tested when a bunch of suits lose money.

I am extremely turned on by that description of labour's policy.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:46

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

WFH errry Friday and it owns, I do almost nothing if I don't have to call in to something.

Only reasons to be there on a Friday are;

mandatory meeting (must have catering)
Or
Going for pints after work

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:47

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Failed Imagineer posted:

Weird tho cause she's maybe the least sexualised popstar out there rn. I have to say that's just as much about a failed attempt at cultural relevance on Rods part

She's sexualised as poo poo dude, they're just playing it coy until she's 18.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:48

AceOfFlames: Oct 9, 2012

Pilchenstein posted:

uwu pwease expwoit me mistew capitawist

I get bored at work too.

I get bored at work and I get bored at home. I enjoy the balance between the two kinds of work. I understand it could be far worse.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:49

Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

Junior G-man posted:

Yeah, same here. At least my boss is super cool about me working from home, or from my fiance's place, or me bunking off early on Fridays and stuff. It makes such a huge difference and, in the long run, does actually make me more productive.

Having reasonable work hours and a good boss does wonders for work morale. My boss doesn't give a poo poo where or how we do our work as long as it gets done and it's great.

In return I don't mind being flexible and occasionally working longer days when things go to poo poo since I know I can just make it up later by having a day off or something.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:49

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

Failed Imagineer posted:

Weird tho cause she's maybe the least sexualised popstar out there rn. I have to say that's just as much about a failed attempt at cultural relevance on Rods part

He was saying it in response to a tan-skin older pop star with smaller boobs being vapid trash to him.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:50

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Gonzo McFee posted:

She's sexualised as poo poo dude, they're just playing it coy until she's 18.

Hmm thought she was all about the baggy jumpers and whatnot. I'll admit I'm basing this on secondhand information pretty much cause I don't give a poo poo and her album didn't give me feels the way The Jep does

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:50

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

Gonzo McFee posted:

I remember him saying that Billie Eilish was the thinking man's pop starlet before I knew who she was. Then I found out she was 17 and heard the lyric "might seduce your dad type" and it all fell into place in my head.

I read at least a few youtube comments about how teen girls are wrongly trying to appropriate her from her real target demographic: middle-aged white males

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:51

Illuyankas: Oct 22, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

I don't it's loving hilarious.

It's terrible because it's almost identical to the worst word in the English language, cunny

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:52

Illuyankas: Oct 22, 2010

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

I read at least a few youtube comments about how teen girls are wrongly trying to appropriate her from her real target demographic: middle-aged white males

I didn't realise she was a My Little Pony

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:53

Puntification: Nov 4, 2009; Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic; Fun Shoe

Failed Imagineer posted:

Weird tho cause she's maybe the least sexualised popstar out there rn. I have to say that's just as much about a failed attempt at cultural relevance on Rods part

Sexual predators choose victims based on perceived vulnerability rather than sexuality.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:53

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

AceOfFlames posted:

I realize I am alone on this but I don't think I could handle four day work weeks. There would be a lot more pressure to be productive in the shorter time and I am already bored enough on weekends.

quote:

It will be said that, while a little leisure is pleasant, men would not know how to fill their days if they had only [literally any working regimen less than what is current]. In so far as this is true in the modern world, it is a condemnation of our civilization; it would not have been true at any earlier period. There was formerly a capacity for light-heartedness and play which has been to some extent inhibited by the cult of efficiency. The modern man thinks that everything ought to be done for the sake of something else, and never for its own sake. Serious-minded persons, for example, are continually condemning the habit of going to the cinema, and telling us that it leads the young into crime. But all the work that goes to producing a cinema is respectable, because it is work, and because it brings a money profit. The notion that the desirable activities are those that bring a profit has made everything topsy-turvy. The butcher who provides you with meat and the baker who provides you with bread are praiseworthy, because they are making money; but when you enjoy the food they have provided, you are merely frivolous, unless you eat only to get strength for your work. Broadly speaking, it is held that getting money is good and spending money is bad. Seeing that they are two sides of one transaction, this is absurd; one might as well maintain that keys are good, but keyholes are bad. Whatever merit there may be in the production of goods must be entirely derivative from the advantage to be obtained by consuming them. The individual, in our society, works for profit; but the social purpose of his work lies in the consumption of what he produces. It is this divorce between the individual and the social purpose of production that makes it so difficult for men to think clearly in a world in which profit-making is the incentive to industry. We think too much of production, and too little of consumption. One result is that we attach too little importance to enjoyment and simple happiness, and that we do not judge production by the pleasure that it gives to the consumer.

Get a hobby. Read books. Do some home improvements. Lots of things are good that aren't working for the efficiency profits of someone else.

Plus the UK is bad at productivity efficiency anyway.

Gonzo McFee posted:

I remember him saying that Billie Eilish was the thinking man's pop starlet before I knew who she was. Then I found out she was 17 and heard the lyric "might seduce your dad type" and it all fell into place in my head.

He probably puts an inflection on 'starlet' that makes all women under 21 edge away from him slightly.

Illuyankas posted:

It's terrible because it's almost identical to the worst word in the English language, cunny

What's wrong with rabbits?

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:54

VideoGames: Aug 18, 2003

I would like a 0 day work week. No work please.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:55

StarkingBarfish: Jun 25, 2006; Novus Ordo Seclorum

This just appeared in my feed and I thought the thread might like a reminder of how Michael Gove's crystal ball is a goldfish bowl full of poo poo:

https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1168479741491462144

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:55

RockyB: Mar 8, 2007; Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

On my current contract I spend three hours commuting to and from London every day. Managing to arrange a four day week and clawing back some of that time was an absolute godsend, and I recommend it to anyone.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:56

kecske: Feb 28, 2011; it's round, like always

I do a 4 day week, sometimes 3 if I'm covering a long day because someones off sick or on holiday. I can do dodgy cash in hand jobs on my off days or just chill out at home or whatever. Can confirm it owns and everyone should do it.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 12:57

Saros: Dec 29, 2009; Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

AceOfFlames posted:

I realize I am alone on this but I don't think I could handle four day work weeks. There would be a lot more pressure to be productive in the shorter time and I am already bored enough on weekends.

Ace you've got a lot of bad opinions but this might be your actual worst jesus f'ing christ.

As an aside does anyone know much about Rosena Kahn? She's my MP and a minor shadow minister but is also apparently Sadiq Kahn's niece or something and the whole familial political dynasties thing really grosses me out. From a brief look at her vote record she seems a bit melty as well.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 13:00

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

RockyB posted:

On my current contract I spend three hours commuting to and from London every day. Managing to arrange a four day week and clawing back some of that time was an absolute godsend, and I recommend it to anyone.

loving Christ. I feel for you man. Long commutes are one of the things I absolutely flat-out refuse to do; it's just so much dead, wasted time.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 13:01

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Junior G-man posted:

I know bits of this thing have been posted before, but you gotta read the whole intro piece of the Corbyn Economy five-article thing the FT is doing. It's all bangers

I could literally bold the whole thing but will try not to.

For all the lovely keywords 'Trotskyist', 'Marxist' etc. etc. this isn't a bad writeup of his program, and the FT - for all its built-in ideology - does a fair job of talking about it.

If there's interest I'll post the other ones as they come out?

Tah for posting this, given me a lot of positivity about Labour which has been lacking of late. They really do best when they bang on about policies, especially policies poo poo not related to loving Brexit.

Hard chuckle at right to buy for private tenants, that's loving genius.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 13:03

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

No. 10 official:

quote:

The PM is hosting all Tory MPs at Number 10 this evening. He is taking the opportunity to see cabinet as well - the cabinet calling notice should have gone out - and they will discuss the government�s response to MPs seeking to take control of the legislative agenda away from the government and handing it to the opposition and Corbyn without the consent of the people. The view is that tomorrow�s possible vote is an expression of confidence in the government�s negotiating position to secure a deal and will be treated as such.

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Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Junior G-man posted:

loving Christ. I feel for you man. Long commutes are one of the things I absolutely flat-out refuse to do; it's just so much dead, wasted time.

Yeah my commutes gonna extend from a 60min walk to a 75 min walk each way soon, and I'm gonna use that to switch to a 3-office/2-home workweek because gently caress that. Even though I actually like the walk

# ? Sep 2, 2019 13:06

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