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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

remains relevant as Johnson prorogues Parliament which is legal because May didn't because she couldn't guarantee getting a Queen's Speech through to crush the saboteurs so now a bunch of fubpees are trying to complain to the manager and there's a court case in Scotland to examine if Johnson really really needed to prorogue Parliament for so long, then a bunch of people protested.

As does


MPs will do anything to stop No Deal except support the one guy who wants to stop No Deal, except even Ken Clarke is starting to come round on that.

https://twitter.com/posthamster/status/1166477024308973574

https://twitter.com/GhostofAckbar/status/1167046623106666496

Also Dominic Cummings exists, who can basically be summarized as


Salvador Allende posted:

Surely, this will be the last opportunity for me to address you. The Air Force has bombed the antennas of Radio Magallanes. My words do not have bitterness but disappointment. May they be a moral punishment for those who have betrayed their oath … Given these facts, the only thing left for me is to say to workers: I am not going to resign!
Placed in a historic transition, I will pay for loyalty to the people with my life. And I say to them that I am certain that the seeds which we have planted in the good conscience of thousands and thousands of Chileans will not be shriveled forever. They have force and will be able to dominate us, but social processes can be arrested by neither crime nor force. History is ours, and people make history.
Workers of my country: I want to thank you for the loyalty that you always had …
The people must defend themselves, but they must not sacrifice themselves. The people must not let themselves be destroyed or riddled with bullets, but they cannot be humiliated either.
Workers of my country, I have faith in Chile and its destiny. Other men will overcome this dark and bitter moment when treason seeks to prevail. Keep in mind that, much sooner than later, great avenues will again be opened, through which will pass the free man, to construct a better society.
Long live Chile! Long live the people! Long live the workers!
The Other September 11th

In The News :sax:
• Harland and Wolff ceases trading, shipbuilders occupy the site and threaten to run Trade Unionist candidates against Democratic Unionist seats.
• Data from the Office for National Statistics shows that the UK economy shrank by 0.2% in the second quarter of 2019, its first contraction since 2012.
• Dick Braine is elected as leader of the UK Independence Party.
• Sarah Wollaston does a Chuka, going Tory > CUK > Lib Dem
• MPs vote by 294 to 293 in support of requiring ministers to give fortnightly updates on the situation in Northern Ireland. (It's bad.)
• The Turkish Army takes over British Steel.
• Prince Andrew defends his former friendship with the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, saying "at no stage" did he "see or suspect" any criminal behaviour, even during the criminal proceedings.
• The UK experiences its hottest late August bank holiday weekend on record, with temperatures reaching 33.3°C (91.9°F) in West London. The record for August bank holiday Monday is also broken the following day.
• A magnitude 2.9 earthquake is reported at a Cuadrilla site near Blackpool.
• 61 days until Brexit.
• Planet's dyin' Cloud.

We know that in September, we will wander through the warm winds of summer's wreckage. We will welcome summer's ghost.

Temp Beers
UKMT August 2019 - we (UK) should simply invade Ireland peacefully
UKMT July 2019 - A more cheerful Brexit/BBC for slutty communists
All Previous Threads (thanks Pesky Splinter)

Steep Berm
Europol Thread
Scotpol Thread
Trainchat Thread
Political Cartoons Thread
C-SPAM: BREXIT
BYOB: UKMT

Beep Terms
Podcasting is Praxis - The official podcast of the UKMT with UKMT goons talking into microphones about things.
Off the Fence - Brighton based, covering UK & Global topics. Pretty chill and professional peeps. Older 'casts can be found in the PLATFORM B archive.
Reel Politik - The Original Leftie Hate Trolls. Check 'em out.
We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The UKMT-iest of Podcasts.
Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts.
Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out.
Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good.
Trashfuture - Theme of the week style podcast about capitalism and how much it fucks up. Cool podcasters, sometimes working with Reel Politik
Agitpod - Owen Jones & Ellie Mae O’Hagan discuss news.
Reasons to Be Cheerful - Former Labour leader Ed "Red Ed" Milliband and Geoff Lloyd shoot the poo poo, and discuss general politics. Sometimes with guests.
Novara Media - Numerous fluctucating commentators including Matt Zarb-Cousin, Max Shanly, and James Butler among others. Varying topics with guests.
[Citations Needed] - Covers the US, focussing on the media, PR, and assorted bullshit. Also some socialist history topics. Very informative.
Chapo House Media - More US focused, from a leftist perspective. Basically a US version of Reel Politik, but with better mics. Worth a listen.
General Intellect Unit - Podcast of the Cybernetic Marxists. Examining the intersection of Technology, (Left) Politics, and Philosophy; decently in-depth and theory-driven as podcasts go.

Beset Perm
Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh
Demanding The Impossible - David Morland
Demanding the Impossible: A History of Anarchism - Peter Marshall
Chav Solidarity - D. Hunter
Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy
At The Café – Malatesta
The Method of Freedom – Malatesta
In Praise of Idleness – Russell
Political Ideals – Russell
Declaration – Hardt and Negri
Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo
God and the State – Bakunin
The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin
Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin
Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman
Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg
Violence – Slavoj Zizek
Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber
Crashed: How a Decade of Financial Crises Changed the World – Adam Tooze
Flat Earth News - Nick Davies
Hack Attack - Nick Davies
Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin
Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin
Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons

Beet Sperm (thanks feedmegin)

quote:

I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land.

Bexleyheath and Crayford - Rolled Cabbage
Bristol East - Luxury Tent Carpet
Bristol West - mfcrocker, Barry Foster, Pistol_Pete, Rarity
Broxtowe - MikeCrotch
Cotswolds (yes, we do have one) - Yvonmukluk
Cunninghame North/South - mehall ('s partner)
Dulwich and West Norwood - maugrim
Ealing Central and Acton - Comrade Fakename
Edinburgh Central (s?) - Autonomous Monster
Edinburgh Central, Ipswich - Lord of the Llamas
Enfield Southgate - spiderbot
Glasgow Southside/Central - Niric
Havant - Last Emperor
Hertford and Stortford - Brovine
Hyndburn - Kegluneq
Leeds East - mrpwase
Leeds North East - Irving Washington
Manchester Central - Jakabite
Northampton - superLINUS
North-East Somerset (the long-shot campaign to unseat Jacob Rees-Mogg) - Darth Walrus
Paisley & Renfrewshire South - Sanitary Naptime
Portsmouth South - ShaneMacGowansTeeth
Rochford and Southend East - DesperateDan
Salisbury (and Salisbury Momentum, which is now a thing that actually exists) - Wolfsbane
Sheffield south east - Cast_no_shadow
South Cambridgeshire - feedmegin
South East Cambridgeshire - Stoic Fnord
Southampton (Test) - waffle, Nova88
St Austell & Newquay - Oh dear me
Stockport Central - Taear
Stroud - sebzilla
Swansea West - Borrovan
Tatton - Bundy
Watford - SpaceCommie
West Suffolk - Cluncho McChunk

The Effortpost's Graveyard (thanks goddamnedtwisto and UKMT goons)

Join us on synIRC for Question Time Awfulness and Stuff
#ukgoons on synIRC (thanks crispix).

Lightning Knight posted:

:siren: Also after discussing it with CB and amongst ourselves, we’ve decided we won’t punish people just for mentioning pissflaps anymore as long as it doesn’t cause an extended derail. What constitutes “an extended derail” is up to interpretation. :siren:

Pissflaps is still banned from the thread tho because lol he bad.

learnincurve posted:

Need something added to every OP. DWP have been told not to tell sanctioned people about this.

If you get sanctioned then to prevent your housing and council tax benefits falling like a house of cards, and in some case get access to a utility bill fund, call your local council for a "Nil Income Form".

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Sep 4, 2019

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The Belgian
Oct 28, 2008
What's Brexit?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



That is an extremely good thread title :laffo:

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...
Well that's all as may be but Pointless is back :toot:

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

Antisemitic cartoons in the OP, shameful stuff.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
Good luck to the UK. I hope you can return to the EU, like, a couple Parliment changes after this whole Brexit situation. "Baby, it was just a temporary set back. We're all good now."

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

There's some good Ash here explaining what's been going on lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GX0DELlKsM

gotta say I sure appreciate having some knowledgeable leftists in the media who are really good at getting a point across. I dunno how they get on the BBC tbh

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
posting to bookmark

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



The pod is good please listen to the pod.

Crankit
Feb 7, 2011

HE WATCHES
What is the likely brex it outcome now?

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Crankit posted:

What is the likely brex it outcome now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjatJ36cJvM

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

Crankit posted:

What is the likely brex it outcome now?

No deal brexit is the default option and is the most likely outcome.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles
Regarding a discussion from the last thread, there was something that happened with the whole alexis kennedy thing, one of the victims made a post and then they deleted their twitter and people were talking about it being a knife twist by kennedy or something. What happened?

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Guavanaut posted:

Podcasting is Praxis - The official podcast of the UKMT with UKMT goons talking into microphones about things.

The only endorsement I ever really wanted :swoon:

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Aww, was hoping title would be 'we (Ireland) should simply invade UK peacefully'

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Reveilled posted:

Regarding a discussion from the last thread, there was something that happened with the whole alexis kennedy thing, one of the victims made a post and then they deleted their twitter and people were talking about it being a knife twist by kennedy or something. What happened?

Zoe Quinn outed some other sex pest in games and apparently he offed himself this morning. This, of course, is Quinn's fault, along with erectile dysfunction and male pattern baldness and why my ex wife took the kids.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

OwlFancier posted:

Zoe Quinn outed some other sex pest in games and apparently he offed himself this morning. This, of course, is Quinn's fault, along with erectile dysfunction and male pattern baldness.

Ah. I guess I got mixed up, there's apparently so many sex pests in video game development that it's hard to keep track. loving poo poo for Quinn though. :(

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Crankit posted:

What is the likely brex it outcome now?

loving hellworld.

AKA:

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
https://twitter.com/mojos55/status/1167856496153153537

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

Gatts posted:

Good luck to the UK. I hope you can return to the EU, like, a couple Parliment changes after this whole Brexit situation. "Baby, it was just a temporary set back. We're all good now."

After Greece/troika 08 loving lmao at any relationship analogy that doesn't cast the EU as brutal domestic abuser.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
So Dominic Cummings is the UK's Stephen Miller now?

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!



How stalinmentum of him, I’m sure the media will be up in arms over this any second

E:^^

Dom Cummies is a big dork who fetishes the rational blogosphere in tyool 2019, and his former colleagues think he’s a prick.

Sanitary Naptime fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Sep 1, 2019

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005





hey cool an ideological purge

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Meanwhile:

https://twitter.com/TweetForTheMany/status/1167933941292003328

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!



Haha god drat, the tories are so hosed come an election between this, the proroguing and the brexit party being a thing

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Convex posted:

So Dominic Cummings is the UK's Stephen Miller now?

he seems to be roleplaying Malcolm Tucker

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Social care is a goddamn nightmare as anyone who has had to try and sort it out for a deteriorating relative knows. Electable or not it's a vital policy.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Vitamin P posted:

After Greece/troika 08 loving lmao at any relationship analogy that doesn't cast the EU as brutal domestic abuser.

the uk had obviously a much much better deal than greece tho

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Though as we're illustrating that's under threat of "you're dead if you leave lol"

That's more of a capitalism problem than an EU problem though.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1167899080325922818

Just moving this over from last month's thread because loving lol

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Vitamin P posted:

After Greece/troika 08 loving lmao at any relationship analogy that doesn't cast the EU as brutal domestic abuser.

In this case, it's the domestic abuser getting into a relationship with someone who offers them detailed tips on how to hurt people, encourages them to do so, and then gives them a slow emotional workover for the next few decades before attempting a murder-suicide out of absolutely loving nowhere because they decided that they weren't fine with the domestic abuser having the family round after all despite repeatedly saying 'hey, we should invite your folks over'.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/k1llurboss/status/1167910339943383040?s=21

lol, of course.

For anyone who hasn't been keeping track, Ghislaine Maxwell is (or possibly was) Jeffrey Epstein's main partner in crime.

RPZip
Feb 6, 2009

WORDS IN THE HEART
CANNOT BE TAKEN
Is there a good summary anywhere of developments since the Brexit extension? I stopped following UK news so closely after that and I'm trying to catch up but I have no idea what is happening.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

RPZip posted:

Is there a good summary anywhere of developments since the Brexit extension? I stopped following UK news so closely after that and I'm trying to catch up but I have no idea what is happening.

Nothing is happening, that's sort of the problem.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Darth Walrus posted:

In this case, it's the domestic abuser getting into a relationship with someone who offers them detailed tips on how to hurt people, encourages them to do so, and then gives them a slow emotional workover for the next few decades before attempting a murder-suicide out of absolutely loving nowhere because they decided that they weren't fine with the domestic abuser having the family round after all despite repeatedly saying 'hey, we should invite your folks over'.

I don't normally find things like this offputting but I will say I'm a bit leery of making extended metaphors rooted in domestic violence.

(Not trying to have a go at you both, just a gentle comment)


Huh. Finally found something the Tories are doing better than Labour.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Vitamin P posted:

After Greece/troika 08 loving lmao at any relationship analogy that doesn't cast the EU as brutal domestic abuser.

Oh hey haven't seen you post in a while, how's the alt-right life treating you? Any thoughts on Boris?

See I don't even say gently caress off and all that. I'm genuinely curious if there's a positive spin on him that sounds halfway reasonable.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Sep 1, 2019

Warthur
May 2, 2004



Which is particularly rich given how much Johnson and others of his cabinet voted against May's policies without any such measures being taken against them.

If Johnson wanted to convince moderate Tories to just drop out and make their own party/join the LibDems/ChUK, that'll do it. Resorting to this sort of threat so soon after becoming PM will make a lot of MPs very angry and very stubborn as a result.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Also good luck getting new candidates if corbyn voncs you next week lol.

This is like operation barbarossa if instead of the molotov ribbentropp pact hitler kept sending stalin messages saying "i'm gonna fight you lol, real soon" and stalin read them and said "hmm what I need is a purge!"

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Sep 1, 2019

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



OwlFancier posted:

Also good luck getting new candidates if corbyn voncs you next week lol.

This is like operation barbarossa if instead of the molotov ribbentropp pact hitler kept sending stalin messages saying "i'm gonna fight you lol, real soon" and stalin read them and said "hmm what I need is a purge!"

Professional historians Paradox Interactive tell us that if Stalin didn't purge there'd be a Trot civil war :shrug:

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yeah but unlike Russia I don't think Boris Johnson can move the entire conservative party a thousand miles east and churn out a metal, diesel powered candidate every few hours.

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