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kinda 2.5L swaps seem to be fairly popular. they still handle real well, the only caveat is some unfortunate toe out(?) behavior in the rear under full droop travel.
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NC sounds like the Miata for me then.
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Aug 30, 2019 03:57
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Coredump posted:So the NC is the fat dumb Miata of the family? 
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Aug 30, 2019 04:00
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Pretty much my thoughts. It used to be the go to if you wanted modern features in a Miata. Now it doesn't quite fill a niche. I imagine they will become the cheapest of the 4 to own soon.
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nb2s that aren't in the saddest condition are starting to creep up towards 6-7k and nc2s are rapidly dropping below 10k.
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Aug 30, 2019 08:18
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The nice thing is the NC handling issues are pretty easy to fix, not the sort of thing where you have to re-engineer poo poo for it to work better. I have the older Spec MX-5 suspension package on my NC and I'd seriously consider it for street use.
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Aug 30, 2019 12:55
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I got my nc because I thought it might hold up better to rust in the north east and be a better daily driver but the na envy is very very real It’s been overall very reliable and fun to drive though and a great car
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Aug 30, 2019 14:46
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I love my NC aside from the now leaking trunk. Still, had it a while, time to move on.
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Aug 30, 2019 15:01
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I also love my NC and it looks so pretty in Victory Blue. Still though, the call of the ND is strong and I'm getting more and more likely to upgrade.
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Aug 30, 2019 15:22
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mekilljoydammit posted:The nice thing is the NC handling issues are pretty easy to fix, not the sort of thing where you have to re-engineer poo poo for it to work better. I have the older Spec MX-5 suspension package on my NC and I'd seriously consider it for street use. afaik you can’t fix the rear suspension issue because of the geometry, but once again it’s only under full droop travel. so uh, just prepare to have a code brown if you happen to be taking an off camber blind downhill corner at 90+ mph on those lovely continental slicks. they fixed it on the ND
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So I've started to really want a NA Miata, bad, but I've also vowed to do everything I can to avoid buying another car here in MN because I've had a life-time of rust to deal with. Well, my wife & I are traveling to the west coast for Christmas break and shes given the green-light to buying a car and driving it back together; it's something I've always wanted to do and it's closer to reality than ever. Im stoked, but I'm also trying to unpack the logistics of it all so i figured i might as well  about it.What should I have in my emergency tool kit? I'm used to brick-era Volvos that can often be fixed with a 10-16mm tools. At that time of the year (dec) is 40E to 44 to 35N the best route, staying south to avoid mountain passes? Is there a better resource for finding NA Miatas than craigslist? I'd love to hear if anyone has done something similar. In the meanwhile I'll be slowly catching up on this thread from the OP and living vicariously through you all.
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Aug 30, 2019 17:33
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Phone posted:afaik you can’t fix the rear suspension issue because of the geometry, but once again it’s only under full droop travel. so uh, just prepare to have a code brown if you happen to be taking an off camber blind downhill corner at 90+ mph on those lovely continental slicks. That's kind of an edge case though - where static ride height ends up with the SMX5 suspension I can't imagine getting to that much droop other than maybe Laguna Seca. Also NC ABS actually deals with Hoosiers without issue, and you can make the ECU do some fun party tricks like no lift shift and auto-blip downshift. I think they're probably more robust to run than a Spec Miata.
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Wally Joyner posted:So I've started to really want a NA Miata, bad, but I've also vowed to do everything I can to avoid buying another car here in MN because I've had a life-time of rust to deal with. Well, my wife & I are traveling to the west coast for Christmas break and shes given the green-light to buying a car and driving it back together; it's something I've always wanted to do and it's closer to reality than ever. Im stoked, but I'm also trying to unpack the logistics of it all so i figured i might as well With hundreds of thousands being sold, you can buy one in nearly any condition except new. Following the buy/sell pages it seems like a lot of folks sell Florida cars. Mines a Florida car, but I was lucky and found it in Connecticut. No rust but horrible paint/interior conditions, presumably due to the Florida sun. I also see a lot of California cars. As for an emergency kit you just use the same kit you would anyone else. You can take apart a Miata with 6 metric sizes. 8, 10, 12, 14, and 17mm in my experience. There are suspension components that use 19 as well as the lugs. I carry a bottle jack, jumpers, and a breaker bar with previously mentioned sockets and wrenches.
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The mazda curse struck me today in the form of a girl driving her boyfriend's raptor. She cut across my lane to make a right and luckily only glanced my car with the tires and running board. The good news is the front fender got a little mushed but I have one coming from Moss anyway and the whole car generally looks like poo poo, so most people see the rub marks as an improvement  I was unable to stay out of the 'no miata zone', the rear right (in the US) of trucks/vans/suvs. Our cars seriously disappear. Let my insurance know and am not seeking damages. Now if the driver's boyfriend decides to escalate, then I've already got my ducks in a row.
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mekilljoydammit posted:That's kind of an edge case though - where static ride height ends up with the SMX5 suspension I can't imagine getting to that much droop other than maybe Laguna Seca. Also NC ABS actually deals with Hoosiers without issue, and you can make the ECU do some fun party tricks like no lift shift and auto-blip downshift. It’s definitely an edge case, but it’s the only argument outside of “parts are too expensive” that holds any water; however, you’ll find 1000 people whining about the looks of the car before you find a single person talking about a seemingly minor aspect of the suspension behavior in an extreme circumstance. I don’t have any comment on the electronics, I’m sure they’re fine and don’t do anything real dumb.
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I just figure all Miatas are good - the NC is also the easiest to make NA power out of without fitting something that needs a trans adapter or worse.
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BloodBag posted:The mazda curse struck me today in the form of a girl driving her boyfriend's raptor. She cut across my lane to make a right and luckily only glanced my car with the tires and running board. The good news is the front fender got a little mushed but I have one coming from Moss anyway and the whole car generally looks like poo poo, so most people see the rub marks as an improvement Same thing happened to my dad in an ND except it was a guy with a trailer and my dad hit a square curb at speed and destroyed the front suspension on that side. On the other hand my mother almost got hit by someone trying to turn across two lanes in front of her Grand Cherokee so some people are just idiots.
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mekilljoydammit posted:I just figure all Miatas are good - the NC is also the easiest to make NA power out of without fitting something that needs a trans adapter or worse. right now seems like a decent time to have option paralysis NAs and NBs now can use the stock subframe with a K24Z3 ($300 longblocks anyone?) and hit 205 whp/165 ft-lbs for about $7k for everything. There are also Borg Warner EFR manifolds now if you want to go that route. And you can now use a BMW ZF without too much trouble. NCs are dropping in price and 2.5L MZRs are cheap to pick up and swap over, once again about 200 whp, but torque is up north of 180 ft-lbs.
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Phone posted:right now seems like a decent time to have option paralysis The 2.5 swap seems stupidly easy is all, and they're such a common engine. Comedy option - TiVCT headed 2.0 Duratec in an NA
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I saw a NC with a 2.5 swap but the guy really didn't know what he was talking about so I passed on buying it. Never jump on top of someone elses project. It seemed like a garage convinced him to swap and he had no idea what that entailed.
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The downside of the 2.5 swap is they don't rev out and that's the fun of Miatas.
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Previa_fun posted:The downside of the 2.5 swap is they don't rev out and that's the fun of Miatas. And this is why I want the ND with the refreshed engine
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Too bad Dave Coleman never got the Miatabusa to work.
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Aug 31, 2019 12:46
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Previa_fun posted:The downside of the 2.5 swap is they don't rev out and that's the fun of Miatas. Well, then you add cams. 
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BloodBag posted:The mazda curse struck me today in the form of a girl driving her boyfriend's raptor. She cut across my lane to make a right and luckily only glanced my car with the tires and running board. The good news is the front fender got a little mushed but I have one coming from Moss anyway and the whole car generally looks like poo poo, so most people see the rub marks as an improvement Why would you willingly leave money on the table
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Why would you willingly leave money on the table Pardon me for being stupid, but how am I leaving money on the table?
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BloodBag posted:Pardon me for being stupid, but how am I leaving money on the table? You said you’re not seeking damages
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:You said you’re not seeking damages If I do that, wouldn't the insurance company total it? It's a $1200 car at best.
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BloodBag posted:If I do that, wouldn't the insurance company total it? It's a $1200 car at best. Who cares if they total it? You’d get a check for the total loss cost, less the salvage buy back price if you want to keep the car. Let’s say the car is worth $1,200 but the salvage value they’d get for selling the car to a junkyard is $600 (it’s likely much lower but this is an easy number). The difference of 1,200 - 600 = you get a check for $600.
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Some states will not let you drive a totaled car so that's not always the best option. The best way to do it is ask for like 50 dollars less than the total value. I know someone that bought a car for 500 dollars, it caught on fire, he got 4,300 in insurance money and like 2,000 dollars later he had new panels and rebuilt the engine and didn't total the car.
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The nightmare Miata saga continues. We last left off with me with a siezed head after ten miles from a rebuild and a shitload of questions. After talking to the builder, we assumed it was the oil pump. So I had friend and forums user deeters help me get to it.  Took a look at the pump.  Good and bad news comes with this. The good is the pump was fine so the crank likely had oil. The bad is I have no idea why the head seized. The only remaining factor is an oil clog. The builder is going to talk to he machine shop and get to the bottom of it. Oil pan looks okay, though.  Before  And bam, engine.  The junkyard head I slapped on is an Escort GT head. I had to change the EGR route, lop off a few extra mounting points, and plug an extra heater core port. Upon inspection of parts while assembling, I noticed the injector o rings are hosed. It would have been fun to start it with a huge fuel leak. So those are on order. Meanwhile I am slowly connecting all the plumbing and wiring.
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I just got my project NB started after doing HG/timing belt etc - fired up super smooth but one of the injectors leaked and sprayed gas everywhere :[ Luckily an easy fix and i already have new o rings. Mainly glad I'll finally get it out of the garage.... So i can completely refresh the suspension on my NA..?
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Man, I came from a modestly modified WRX to a Miata and they're still a blast. I envy you for thinking they're fast, though. The regime of fast I've gotten used to is $$$.
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Does anyone have a clean set of OEM 17x7 wheels from a NC that they are looking to sell? Been looking for a little bit in the Denver area but not having much finding clean examples or reasonable sellers. I'm going to be putting these on my Mazda 3 because I'm sick of the stock 18s.
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Nohearum posted:Does anyone have a clean set of OEM 17x7 wheels from a NC that they are looking to sell? Been looking for a little bit in the Denver area but not having much finding clean examples or reasonable sellers. I'm going to be putting these on my Mazda 3 because I'm sick of the stock 18s. redlineautoparts.com tends to have them from time to time.
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Nightmare Miata runs. Putting it through its paces and hopefully can get it reregistered. The motor seems louder but it hasn't run in over a year correctly so I have no basis for comparison. Camshafts look like they're getting oil by taking a peek under the oil cap. Need to do the break in oil change and switch some fluids to something less lovely, but I'll slowly drive it further and further until I'm sure it's reliable again.
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I HATE PINK BIKES fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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