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Such a result would imply the SNP taking all but seven seats in Scotland. I wonder which. I guess the real question is, though, would the LDs genuinely go into coalition with a No-deal Tory government? edit: wait hang on where's BXP? Vlex fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Sep 2, 2019 |
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Vlex posted:I guess the real question is, though, would the LDs genuinely go into coalition with a No-deal Tory government?
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Is the Other independent or BXP?Vlex posted:I guess the real question is, though, would the LDs genuinely go into coalition with a No-deal Tory government?
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Vlex posted:Such a result would imply the SNP taking all but seven seats in Scotland. I wonder which. While I think many Tory MPs, and probably, secretly, the PM and the Cabinet, would welcome that as an excuse to ditch Brexit, I can only imagine that the Tory membership would go apeshit about it. In this case I imagine we would be leading to yet another election. So much rides on the hope that Labour could pull out another boost at the election like they did last time. Since the only options will be no-deal Brexit or a Corbyn government, maybe they can.
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I can't see any real possibility, without Ruth and with Boris, of the Scottish Tories keeping more than maybe 3 of their seats, which would mean a minimum of ten losses in Scotland alone, I don't see that MRP being accurate even if the GE was tomorrow, and that's before purdah.
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mehall posted:I can't see any real possibility, without Ruth and with Boris, of the Scottish Tories keeping more than maybe 3 of their seats, which would mean a minimum of ten losses in Scotland alone, I don't see that MRP being accurate even if the GE was tomorrow, and that's before purdah. I'm assuming losses in Scotland are offset by gains elsewhere (as the SNP are +17), looks like a few Labour seats go blue based on those changes
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I think Labour will do a lot better in an election than current polls because they'll undercut the libdem surge by running on a referendum between remain and a Labour deal. FBPE brainwormers will still demand a referendum between remain and no deal but normal people will prefer the version without a horrible disaster as an option
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Qwertycoatl posted:I think Labour will do a lot better in an election than current polls because they'll undercut the libdem surge by running on a referendum between remain and a Labour deal. FBPE brainwormers will still demand a referendum between remain and no deal but normal people will prefer the version without a horrible disaster as an option Also, Labour having a policy platform instead of one thing subject to a referendum.
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Do you not think election/referendum fatigue will be a force? Remainers may vote LD on the perception that they are more likely to revoke A50, and Leavers will definitely vote CON on the mantra of BREXIT NOW. I think people are sick and loving tired of everything and want a result as fast as possible, one way or another.
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Vlex posted:Do you not think election/referendum fatigue will be a force? Remainers may vote LD on the perception that they are more likely to revoke A50, and Leavers will definitely vote CON on the mantra of BREXIT NOW. I think people are sick and loving tired of everything and want a result as fast as possible, one way or another. That depends on Jo Swinson having the courage to come out and say she would unilaterally revoke Article 50. Wouldn't put money on it, myself.
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Vlex posted:Do you not think election/referendum fatigue will be a force? Remainers may vote LD on the perception that they are more likely to revoke A50, and Leavers will definitely vote CON on the mantra of BREXIT NOW. I think people are sick and loving tired of everything and want a result as fast as possible, one way or another. funny how they all want the one thing they're almost 100% certain not to get. ...no, not funny, the other one. depressing, i meant.
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I stare at the poll The made-up numbers state; This Is bad for Corbyn
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kingturnip posted:I stare at the poll You are Emma Kennedy and I claim my five pounds.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:funny how they all want the one thing they're almost 100% certain not to get. Yeah I'm not saying it's good, I'm saying stupidity is a transcendental force in politics.
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Vlex posted:Do you not think election/referendum fatigue will be a force? Remainers may vote LD on the perception that they are more likely to revoke A50, and Leavers will definitely vote CON on the mantra of BREXIT NOW. I think people are sick and loving tired of everything and want a result as fast as possible, one way or another. I doubt it, if only for the fact that a lot of folks seems pissed off on the whole "Johnson is being a poo poo about our rights" and the Lib-dem leader has been conspicuous by her absence.
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Hey comrades, I'm just off to my first ever CLP meetup this evening! (I know I know, but UKMT got to me eventually at least). Hopefully a diverse non-blairite group of new friends awaits. Wish me luck 
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Boris Johnson is currently in Nandos and getting very angry that the woman at the till can't give him No Deal Brexit this very moment
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Sep 2, 2019 17:33
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I overheard Boris Johnson in Nandos saying he voted Remain.
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Sep 2, 2019 17:35
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In actual news, apparently Alex de Pfeffel is to make an announcement live at 6
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For real though, he's making some kind of official statement outside No. 10 in 20 mins.
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This might be it lads and lasses
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It's not likely to be a GE.
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Going to be a May-esque big sack of nothing, apparently? https://twitter.com/markdistef/status/1168563003811409927?s=21
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The LDs would go full Human Centipede to get even a sniff (lol) of relevance and power.
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https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1168545878707249153
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/30/world/europe/uk-life-expectancy.html New York Times published another "look how pathetic Britain is" article.
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Larry has not met the dog
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Sep 2, 2019 17:49
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We regret to announce that the dog is racist against cats.
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Can we still tell if poo poo is on from the symbol used on the speaking podium/lectern/thing?
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tritsch posted:Hey comrades, I'm just off to my first ever CLP meetup this evening! (I know I know, but UKMT got to me eventually at least). Good luck, hope yours doesn't have an old man mad about minutes
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Doesn't look like a general election 
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Downing street symbol on the lectern, but that is pretty meaningless these days.
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kustomkarkommando posted:We had an NI specific poll I'm completely ignorant on the political makeup of Alliance, is it a comparable centrist group taking votes from the right wing DUP and the left wing SF?
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Vlex posted:Such a result would imply the SNP taking all but seven seats in Scotland. I wonder which. My entirely uneducated guess is that Labour lose all their seats except Ian Murray's in Edinburgh, Edinburgh South I think. Liberals retain Orkney and Shetland and probably Swinson's East Dunbartonshire, maybe one other. Tories hold their 2 seats in the Borders and probably something in the North East like one of the Aberdeenshire seats, or both or Moray. But I've not exactly looked at swings or anything, this is just all from memory. But aye, dinnae have high hopes for Labour in Scotland, and even the Tory collapse probably won't be as severe as you'd hope for.
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Alexander is gonna be a loving coward and cling onto ‘power’
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Josef bugman posted:The idea that we should give up is seductive because it absolves us of failure. The idea of hope is a better one because it pushes us to be more than we are. Hope owns, keep on bein you bugman, you’re the best Happening status: sofuckingcloseicantasteit
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Depressing that all it takes to distract the press from us hurtling off the edge of a no deal cliff for no reason other than bare stupidity is them buying a loving dog.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Depressing that all it takes to distract the press from us hurtling off the edge of a no deal cliff for no reason other than bare stupidity is them buying a loving dog. The cynic in me wonders if them getting the dog was purely a publicity stunt...
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