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This is just crappy online radar but I don't think Florida's going to get out of this without a little damage. Would be happy to be wrong. 
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BiggerBoat posted:Do you seriously not have google? New Orleans lost 50% of it's population and still like 30% below of it's population projections pre-Katrina. That's two hundred thousand people displaced, pretty much never to return. Climate Change is death by a thousand paper cuts. A tear here, a fold here, and it adds up. We're already in a housing crisis because we aren't building new housing, hell, we aren't even rebuilding lost housing and we 100% definitely are not even replacing damaged infrastructure. Hurricane Sandy damage is still not repaired almost 10 years later to one of the wealthiest areas in the country, lmao. people already can't afford to live where they are, they won't be able to afford to get displaced because there's no housing anywhere else. Eventually these thousands of lacerations that occur to society will add up because they're just getting left open to bleed.
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BiggerBoat posted:Flooding is by far the biggest problem and it can take years for someone affected by them to get their life back to normal, to say nothing of the financial ruin. kinda though it's inaccurate to lump all that together into "flooding", the #1 short and long term danger from a hurricane is wind and the storm surge caused by said wind flooding due to the storm's rainfall is also a big deal, but the hurricane classification system is based on wind for good reason - it causes immediate and widespread damage to structures and civil infrastructure in a way that's quite different from high intensity rainfall
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BiggerBoat posted:Do you seriously not have google? what point do you think you're making here other than "i am a massively racist prick"
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Gareth Gobulcoque posted:while I, in principle, agree, Puerto Rico's shows that these cat 5 storms have the potential for catastrophic loss of life. we'll see how the Bahamas fair, but it could be very bad. but a Florida landfall is less everyone dieing and more everyone being turbo hosed. That's what I was driving at so thanks. When I rode out Matthew, I was scared but never thought my life was in danger. People trapped on an island is of course a totally different matter.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:kinda though it's inaccurate to lump all that together into "flooding", the #1 short and long term danger from a hurricane is wind and the storm surge caused by said wind I think we can all just agree that poo poo gets hosed up and without immediate and longterm aid the misery for the survivors and displaced peeps is horrific. Aid stations and camps are fine but once those go away you have a bunch of people left with nothing and you can't survive in this country with nothing. You are basically turbofucked.
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a few DRUNK BONERS posted:what point do you think you're making here other than "i am a massively racist prick" lol
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looks like the storm is going due north? Florida has their collective buttholes clenched
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a few DRUNK BONERS posted:what point do you think you're making here other than "i am a massively racist prick" What? WTF is racist about my post? The "third world" comment? Then let me re-phrase. I live in Florida going all the way back to Andrew and what I meant was that the structural and property damage, the displacement, the floods and the devastation that destroys entire towns that seemed and looked normal before hand is the root of the damage these storms do. And also that the loss of lives is not normally the main outcome nor the foremost problem. Homestead is a good example. I drove through it maybe a year after Andrew struck and it was astonishing to see. I'm on the NE FL coast right now facing another major storm, my 3rd in 4 years, and I've seen my own street look like a shanty town twice after people had their homes flooded and lost power for weeks at a time. My own hometown took a year to recover after Matthew and then got clobbered by Irma a year later. My friends were displaced and ruined. So gently caress off with calling me a racist, you rear end in a top hat, and read what I write. Quit trying to stir up poo poo. Or come down here and live what I do. Seriously, eat poo poo with that nonsense, forums poster "A few drunk boners"
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based on these projections, is it possible it somehow just decides to ride the entire coast in the perfect spot to stay like a cat 2-3 the whole time and just wrecks everything
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Xaris posted:yeah two-thirds of the city's population were displaced the mayor at the time was coming up for reelection and after delaying the vote ended up sending out voting machines for polls as far out as houston and atlanta for absentee voters, despite lawsuits from the NAACP and ACORN (  )this upcoming census is expected to confirm that new orleans is now whiter than before, though my understanding is that that's mostly local views unsupported by any serious studies, and that it's still gonna be minority-majority
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What? WTF is racist about my post? The "third world" comment? Then let me re-phrase. I live in Florida going all the way back to Andrew and what I meant was that the structural and property damage, the displacement, the floods and the devastation that destroys entire towns that seemed and looked normal before hand is the root of the damage these storms do. And also that the loss of lives is not normally the main outcome nor the foremost problem. Homestead is a good example. I drove through it maybe a year after Andrew struck and it was astonishing to see. I'm on the NE FL coast right now facing another major storm, my 3rd in 4 years, and I've seen my own street look like a shanty town twice after people had their homes flooded and lost power for weeks at a time. My own hometown took a year to recover after Matthew and then got clobbered by Irma a year later. My friends were displaced and nearly ruined. Several of them twice. It's almost as if a major hurricane can suddenly throw an entire community into the same problems that impoverished nations face on a daily basis. THAT was my loving point you jerk. So gently caress off with calling me a racist, you rear end in a top hat, and read what I write. Quit trying to stir up poo poo. Or come down here and live what I do. Seriously, eat poo poo with that nonsense, forums poster "A few drunk boners" Whoops, quote is not edit
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im being told death is certain, very worrying.
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Stairmaster posted:im being told death is certain, very worrying. honestly the certainty is comforting just imagine if death wasnt certain
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Crossposting this: watch this to see what it looks like without surge https://www.facebook.com/mackeymedia/videos/10156590935978527 now watch this, holy gently caress https://www.facebook.com/mackeymedia/videos/10156592713773527/?view=permalink&id=2469491529952406
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Crossposting this: Well, yes, there is something of a slight difference between an island and a shoal deep enough for fishing boats and pleasure craft to traverse, and heavy storms tend to shift the line a tad.
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Bulgakov posted:palm trees are so drat good at being palm trees Videos out of Abaco are showing palm trees with all the fronds torn off, which you pretty much never see
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Crossposting this: has that person posted any updates since then
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Speaking of palm trees, from abaco's airport: Bulgakov posted:has that person posted any updates since then Yeah he'll be fine, it's basically everyone else who isn't in a house built to withstand hurricanes 15 feet up on stilts that is in trouble.
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this dumb gently caress and his water troops hat
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nassau was so lucky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk_GoTxJf-g
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Speaking of palm trees, from abaco's airport: those palm trees are unnatural and not worthy of satans grand hurricane plans
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Bulgakov posted:this dumb gently caress and his water troops hat that hat literally won him the election his senile opponent chose to make fun of it and he turned it around and made it "vote for me or you hate the military" and welp
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platzapS posted:I picked a poor week to be hospitalized in Orlando. snuggle up next to walt disneys ice corpse in the center of the epcot ball. very secure.
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Addamere posted:honestly the certainty is comforting whoa
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Crossposting this: every single person in that area who wasn't rich enough to build their house on gigantic stilts is loving dead that was also 8 hours ago so this dude might be dead too
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Bulgakov posted:this dumb gently caress and his water troops hat 
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:every single person in that area who wasn't rich enough to build their house on gigantic stilts is loving dead not if he stays out of the water
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Speaking of palm trees, from abaco's airport: With those kind of winds who needs a runway anyway? Just cut off the mooring line and lift off!
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https://twitter.com/iceyefi/status/1168618527751888898 god drat
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Real hurthling! posted:space coast ghost to ghost is my vote for thread title after landfall
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Gareth Gobulcoque posted:while I, in principle, agree, Puerto Rico's shows that these cat 5 storms have the potential for catastrophic loss of life. we'll see how the Bahamas fair, but it could be very bad. but a Florida landfall is less everyone dieing and more everyone being turbo hosed. I was part of the recovery effort in PR and the actual hit of the hurricane didn't kill that many people. The complete collapse of the infrastructure is what caused the vast majority of deaths. I'm guessing its going to be similar to bahamas, and the death count will be mostly people in hospitals dying from lack of resources, people not being able to get their dialysis, insulin, getting sick, over exerting themselves, accidents, etc
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